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Title: Engalia: The Wager
Post by: Sated on June 14, 2015, 03:53:11 PM
ENGALIA: THE WAGER

RPGMAKER.NET "RM VENTURE" ONE WEEK CONTEST GAME, FEBRUARY 2014!
WON A "BADGE OF BEAUTY" FOR AESTHETICS IN THE CONTEST!
WON A "BADGE OF TALES" FOR STORYTELLING IN THE CONTEST!


...::: What People Are Saying :::...

"The RTP characters never looked so good. This was my most anticipated entry just because of this." - Little Wing Guy

"The fact that character dialogue existed for any combination of characters you chose, in scenes regularly repeated throughout the dungeon experience, created personal moments that were actually quite a nice touch." - CashmereCat

"Engalia: The Wager is an intense dungeon crawler/survival RPG that I think hardcore gamers should try. Though minimalist, the story and the growth of the characters is also nice. Whether or not Engalia was designed to be a survival RPG... I say try the game if you like survival games, dungeon crawlers, or RPGs." - Jtrev23

...::: Storyline and Setting :::...

Engalia, a nation steeped in ancient lore that's dotted with uncountable ruins from civilisations passed. Flanked to the north by uninhabitable, snow-covered tundra, and to the south by arid deserts that only disparate, savage tribes call home, Engalia is the largest kindgom of man known in the modern era. Ruled by a fair and courteous Queen, and having been at peace for more than a generation, Engalia's recent prosperity has lead to an influx of skilled sellswords and adventurers willing to plunge into the depths of caves, caverns and ruins that were all but ignored during past times of war.

This story begins in the southern town of Neodym, where after a few too many meads a sellsword named Zack is challenged by his good friend Burns to find a historic treasure horde supposedly lost when the "legendary explorers" Alex and Brian entered the nearby Neodymous Cave and never came out. Using any combination of thirteen other adventurers that he sees fit to accompany him, Zack must retrieve the lost treasure without meeting the same dark end as those who have gone seeking it before him. What he doesn't know is that the evil protecting this treasure is far more devious than he and his sellsword friend imagine!

...::: Gameplay, Features and Comments :::...

Engalia: The Wager is a short RPG originally made in only a week as part of the RM Venture (http://rpgmaker.net/events/arv/) event, before being patched up slightly after the contest was over. The total development time was approximately 2-3 weeks. It features a traditional active-time battle system, 14 different heroes to choose from, a handful of (hopefully) intelligent puzzle sequences, and some (what I think are) beautifully designed dungeons... or as many of these things as I could make in such a short time!

...::: Reviews, Images and Downloads :::...

Read Reviews Here: http://rpgmaker.net/games/6014/reviews/
View The Full Image Gallery Here: http://rpgmaker.net/games/6014/images/
Download The Game Here: http://rpgmaker.net/games/6014/downloads/
Title: Re: Engalia: The Wager
Post by: modern algebra on June 27, 2015, 12:41:05 PM
Wow, this looks wonderful for a project made in one week. I wish I had your talent.
Title: Re: Engalia: The Wager
Post by: Sated on June 28, 2015, 02:11:56 PM
Thanks!

The total development time was probably 2-3 weeks since I touched it up a little after the contest, but I'm pretty pleased with it nonetheless.
Title: Re: Engalia: The Wager
Post by: Sated on July 05, 2015, 12:33:31 PM
I was pretty disappointed after reading CashmereCat's review for the game (which you can find here: http://rpgmaker.net/games/6014/reviews/4034/ (http://rpgmaker.net/games/6014/reviews/4034/)) because it seems like a lot of the changes I made to fix problems people had with the original release had gone too far. In trying to make the game easier, I'd made it too trivial and therefore boring to play through. Obviously this is something that needs to be fixed, and there are also other problems that I'd like to tackle at the same time. I'm going to be taking the current download down whilst I fix these problems.

Things That Need To Be Fixed

The main problem seems to be that battles are too easy to beat without actually thinking about what you're doing, which is obviously a big deal in a game that focuses heavily on battles. So first of all, I've gone back into the database and tweaked enemy damage and stats so that they're between when the original release had and what the current release has. This should make the game somewhat more challenging and force people to be more mindful of their strategies, especially against the mini-boss and boss enemies. As far as balance changes go, the pointers would be that:
Another problem brought up was about the level design, specifically that bridges are too hard to spot, which I agree with. I'm personally pretty used to seeing bridges like the ones this game currently has and so I didn't notice it was a problem, but obviously I know exactly where the bridges are! Here is what the bridges now look like; note that there are gaps between the wooden slats so you can see through to the ground or, in this case, through to the trademark blue-hair of Zack!

(http://i.imgur.com/lKyjfSv.png)
Wooden bridges might not make a great deal of sense deeper in the cave, but I think that concession is better than making it hard on the player to see what the fuck is going on. The alternative would be no vertical bridges, but it's too late to reverse that decision...

There were also some other problems brought up about the battles that had little to do with balance, such as the game running too slowly etc. so there are some things I'm going to fix in that area as well:
Something I'd Like To Add

Cashmere (and some other people) have brought up that they'd like more character customisation. Currently, the only customisation you get is in the form of amulets and rings that are dropped by Mimic-chests. I don't know if I really want to add additional weapons to the game because that sounds really difficult given that there are so many bloody heroes in this game; heroes also need to have the correct type of weapon equipped else they can't use some of their skills (although this is only really a concern for physical skills - I really should've made all the character's weapons "cursed" so they can't be removed by the player because that kinda fucks things up...)

What I will probably do is make it so that you can find "Orbs" or "Crystals" or "Materia" or "Espers" (or whatever name I come up with) that equip to the "Shield" and "Armour" slots. The "Shield" set would increase a hero's stats, giving you some strategic choice, with more powerful increases causing a decrease in other stats to balance it out. The "Armour" set could give a hero a skill that they don't already know, which again gives you some strategic options. Does that sound like a good idea? I think that's a good idea to work with!

The Thing I Ain't Changing

There are, of course, some things from the review that I don't agree with. The main one would be that I don't agree the encounter rate is too high. I said in reply to the review that the encounter rate is triggered after 15 steps, but having now looked at the eventing I see that the encounter rate chooses a random number between 25 and 35 steps. I feel that having at least 25 steps - given that the maps are approximately 50x50 - is very reasonable. This is something that I won't be changing.

Conclusions

This game still isn't where I want it to be. I did mention when I released the "final" version that it probably wouldn't be the "final" version if people were forthcoming with criticism. It is clear that there are quick ways to make this game better than it currently is, so I'm going to look to implement them over the course of the next week. Hopefully people give it another chance afterwards, but they probably won't. Barely anyone has played it as is -_-
Title: Re: Engalia: The Wager
Post by: Sated on July 06, 2015, 07:08:16 PM
So here's a quick preview of the "Orbs" or "Crystals" or "Materia" or "Espers" that I decided to implement. I went with the name "Loci":

(http://rpgmaker.net/media/content/games/6014/screenshots/Focus_Loci.PNG)
"Focus Loci" allow you to modify the stats of your heroes on the fly. Beware though: The stronger the loci, the more it's a detriment to other stats that it doesn't improve!

(http://rpgmaker.net/media/content/games/6014/screenshots/Skill_Loci.PNG)
"Skill Loci" allow you to equip heroes with skills that they don't already have (except Elene, because she's special)!

EDIT:

Also, a MASSIVE NOTE to anyone out there still using RM2K3. Please get the official version from Steam, it will make your game better. The simple fact that it increases the speed of the default ATB is worth the money :D
Title: Re: Engalia: The Wager
Post by: Sated on July 12, 2015, 03:28:25 PM
I've added a new download (http://rpgmaker.net/games/6014/downloads/) for this game. Most of the changes made are aimed at balancing the battles so that they're more difficult than they were in the previous version, but there also some other changes thrown in for good measure. Most of the changes that I was hoping to make are discussed in this (http://rpgmaker.net/games/6014/blog/14795/) blog-post, but I'll give a quick run-down of the changes here.

Balance Changes

As explained in the previous blog post:
The aim of these changes is to make it so enemies are dangerous enough that attempting to button-bash through several battles will get you killed, but not so dangerous that any single battle (other than boss battles) is capable of completely wrecking your shit. What I'm aiming to do is make the game a battle to survive in the sense that, because there's are a limited number of items you can get whilst in the dungeon, you'll need to be efficient to get all the way through the game without straight-up running out of ways to heal yourself. My testing seems to indicate that I'm close to that level of danger, although it wouldn't shock me if I've gone slightly too far. What I do know is that the game isn't as hard as it originally was, which I'm trying pretty hard to avoid (http://rpgmaker.net/games/6014/?post=524675#post524675), and that it's possible to complete the game with a variety of party compositions. As long as you're sensible about having a good balance between support/damage-dealing classes, you should be able to make it through.

Skill Loci and Focus Loci

Probably the biggest addition to the game in this version are "Skill Loci" and "Focus Loci", equippable items that either allow your heroes to use new skills or give them a boost to their stats. You will get one of each whenever you open a chest whilst travelling through Nyodymous Cave, and they've been added to the game so that the player has more customisation options than they did in the previous version (you could only find rings and amulets in the previous version!). A word of warning: The stronger the Loci, the more it's a detriment to the things that it doesn't improve!

(http://rpgmaker.net/media/content/games/6014/screenshots/Skill_Loci.PNG) (http://rpgmaker.net/media/content/games/6014/screenshots/Focus_Loci.PNG)
Skill and Focus Loci give the player more options for customising their heroes!

Other Stuff

I fixed a bunch of things that didn't really make sense in the last release. For example, as I made obvious in the last blog post, I've fixed the bridges so that they're a lot easier to spot. I've fixed Feylin's "Sacrifice" and "Mass Sacrifice" skills so that they can only be used in battle, as originally intended (this wasn't as trivial as it sounds!). I've also made it so that Elene's Tarot skill is properly animated as previous there was a ~1 second waiting time between the animation finishing and damage being dealt that was incredibly jarring. There's a bunch of other stuff that I've also fixed or tweaked, but most of it is minor optimisation of events or the fixing of small bugs (ie. passability errors) so I won't go into them here.

Conclusions

Some stuff was fixed. Some stuff was added. Some stuff was re-balanced. The game should be better now. I hope people enjoy it more than the last release and I look forward to hearing people's comments!
Title: Re: Engalia: The Wager
Post by: &&&&&&&&&&&&& on July 12, 2015, 07:15:15 PM
Man, the old makers, good times.
Your game is looking pretty cool. :)
Title: Re: Engalia: The Wager
Post by: Sated on July 13, 2015, 08:53:56 AM
Warning: A Small Bug!

This only applies if you've chosen Feylin as a member of your party. All other party compositions are completely unaffected!


I've realised that there is a small bug in the game that will prevent Feylin from being able to use his healing skills, "Sacrifice" and "Mass Sacrifice", against enemies that aren't encountered randomly (mini-bosses and bosses). Because of how these two skills work, and because they're not supposed to be usable outside of battle, I only give them to him just before a battle starts (he normally has dummy versions just so that they appear on his skill-list outside of battle). This currently works fine for all the random encounters, but I forgot to set it up for the mini-bosses and bosses.

I'll have a patch up by the end of the day! I'm just glad I noticed such a stupid mistake had been made!


UPDATE!

The update has been released. This should no longer be a problem: Just be sure that you have the v1.1.1 download! Thanks for your patience!

Man, the old makers, good times.
Your game is looking pretty cool. :)

Thanks :) I'll always prefer using the "old" makers, especially now that I can get them legally. I have no interest in learning RGSS and I don't want to rely on other people scripting for me!
Title: Re: Engalia: The Wager
Post by: Oh Summer on July 21, 2015, 01:21:05 AM
In love with the retro feel of this. 2k3 will always hold a special place in my heart. The project looks great.<3
Title: Re: Engalia: The Wager
Post by: Sated on August 09, 2015, 07:22:21 PM
Thanks!

Since it was made for a one-week contest I figured it was best that I use the RTP graphics as much as possible, so that's most of why the graphics are why they are. But I'm actually thinking about releasing more games in the "Engalia" universe, so I'll be working on more RTP mapping once I'm done with my current projects!
Title: Re: Engalia: The Wager
Post by: Sated on August 19, 2015, 01:54:23 PM
This isn't directly to do with this project, but I've been faffing around making a load of maps for no real reason and I imagine I'll eventually use them to make a game set in the Engalia universe. Here are the "overworld" maps that I have thus far (you'll have to excuse errors where maps are pasted together; they're all 50x50 maps!), and all the caves and houses have also been mapped!

Spoiler for:
(http://i.imgur.com/fieXwtC.jpg) (http://twitter.com/sated86)
Title: Re: Engalia: The Wager
Post by: Sated on November 01, 2015, 04:17:47 PM
I've uploaded a new version (v1.2) of the game. There are three reasons for releasing this new version of the game:


Enjoy!
Title: Re: Engalia: The Wager
Post by: Sated on December 21, 2015, 06:50:16 PM
A review for this project was just posted over on RMN. I'm a bit underwhelmed with the score because I think some of the problems that the reviewer had were of their own making (they didn't pick a balanced party), and also because the way they've described the game makes it sound as though I've managed to achieve the things that I wanted to achieve with this project, but I suppose a purposefully frustrating and difficult dungeon crawl isn't for everyone :P In any case, I'm always grateful for reviews, and this is a well-written and honest one.

Here's the review: http://rpgmaker.net/games/6014/reviews/4440/

Because this reviewer managed to take a fairly imbalanced party, I might release a small update to the hero descriptions so they explicitly mention whether a given character is a healer, a support character or a damage dealer. I think that should help people craft better parties in the future!
Title: Re: Engalia: The Wager
Post by: EdmondPaper on January 30, 2016, 05:44:44 AM
This game is really unique. I like a lot of things about this game so far. I find it challenging and strategic.
Title: Re: Engalia: The Wager
Post by: Sated on June 18, 2020, 10:46:11 PM
This video was pointed out to me recently. I'm surprised that the video is only a couple of months old because this isn't exactly a new game. It kinda makes me wonder how this YouTuber managed to stumble across it in the first place. Whatever the case, it's always nice to see people playing the games that we put so much effort into making. They seem to cover a lot of RPGMaker titles on their channel, so maybe some of your favourites are on there?

The video is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAVfvntnQdA

Unfortunately, this particular YouTuber has trouble with the difficulty of the battles in my game and so didn't get to see much of it. It's a shame that they struggled so much, but I don't think it's because the battles are too difficult. I think it's because this game would benefit from some supplementary material explaining how different damage types interact with different enemy types so that players have a better idea of what they're getting themselves into. Damage varies wildly when a player uses the wrong damage types on the wrong enemies, but it's hard to blame the player for making mistakes when the game doesn't really give them any way of knowing different... other than dying over and over and over and over until they figure it out!

Maybe I'll do something about it, but I probably won't. This game is pretty long in the tooth.