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RMRK General => General Chat => Topic started by: Karo Rushe on January 06, 2015, 08:49:10 PM
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So, I said I was going to eventually replace the Hardrive of the computer since it's need of change. but, the thing is, I don't know where to start, My dad keeps bugging about putting an SSD of ether 1T or higher to the computer. I dunno, I just need a new hardrive, compatible with the computer and of 1 Terabyte or higher. the computer model is Samsung Model DP700A3D-A01US
Throw me in on what you recommend. and educate me on what an SSD (Solid State Drive?) is. Thank you.
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A solid state drive is a "hard drive" with no moving parts (ergo, it lasts longer, as it has less parts to worry about breaking, and, wear-and-tear on it is virtually non-existent). Generally, they're faster as well, with faster read/write rates. In my opinion, they're vastly superior to the older mechanical hard drives, and I would second the suggestion of installing one of those instead.
Looking up options for your laptop right now, will edit this post as I find them.
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Thanks for clearing that up. Thou, What I have & needs the new hardrive is this: http://www.samsung.com/us/support/owners/product/DP700A3D-A01US not a laptop. ^^;; Thou I guess it was my mistake forgetting that detail. Sorry about that, and thanks for clearing on the SSD.
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No worries; I just put the term laptop in. I looked up the specs for the computer, and it looks like it's a SATA II interface, which, newegg has a few okay deals, but the max capacity it seems to offer for SATA II is 960GB, just shy of 1TB. Do you have a budget/limit on this?
EDIT: Here's all I could find on NewEgg that kind-of matches your specs. 1TB SATA II SSD for 799 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100008118%20600038510%20600082508&IsNodeId=1&Description=SATA%20II%20SSD&Order=BESTMATCH)
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A solid state drive is a "hard drive" with no moving parts (ergo, it lasts longer, as it has less parts to worry about breaking, and, wear-and-tear on it is virtually non-existent). Generally, they're faster as well, with faster read/write rates. In my opinion, they're vastly superior to the older mechanical hard drives, and I would second the suggestion of installing one of those instead.
So you recommend an SSD then. Ok.
just shy of 1TB.
Pardon me, I didn't quite understand this.
No worries; I just put the term laptop in. I looked up the specs for the computer, and it looks like it's a SATA II interface, which, newegg has a few okay deals, but the max capacity it seems to offer for SATA II is 960GB, just shy of 1TB. Do you have a budget/limit on this?
EDIT: Here's all I could find on NewEgg that kind-of matches your specs. 1TB SATA II SSD for 799 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100008118%20600038510%20600082508&IsNodeId=1&Description=SATA%20II%20SSD&Order=BESTMATCH)
I don't have a budget/limit, My father says he'll cover for it, thou he wants to check first and know the prices.
-EDIT: told him about the price . . . he'll think about it. Saying to 'hold on' to that link. . . . But I just realize it's sold out D:
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That is A LOT of money for a harddrive. Plus the only two reviews on it mark it as very unreliable (which SSDs can be broken even out of the box). The technology isn't at the point where it is cheap to get a near TB SSD that is also reliable. You are much better off having a SSD to have Windows on, so it boots quickly and runs internal Windows processes quickly too, and then a full sized hard drive to store your information on. For that kind of money you could get this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA3ER1830139
and TWO of these:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145493
Plus one of these: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153071 for putting a larger internal drive into like toast into a toaster that will connect to your all in one PC.
That ends up being 6 TBs! Please don't spend 800USD on a single drive that will end up failing on you. ;_;
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That ends up being 6 TBs! Please don't spend 800USD on a single drive that will end up failing on you. ;_;
I would agree with her. A 256 GB SSD is more then enough for the important programms. ;)
If it really needs to be a 1TB SSD, then I recommend this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820173013&cm_re=sata_ssd-_-20-173-013-_-Product
I got a SATA connected to SATA 2, so SATA 3 should be work with SATA 2, too.
May I'm wrong, please correct me, but I think the SSD will only work a bit slower on a lower SATA port. Because this is a SATA 3 one.
Also readed often in other forums, that they work together. ;)
Else I would recommend this SSD:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148791&cm_re=sata_ssd-_-20-148-791-_-Product
And one of these HDD:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822236404&cm_re=WD_Green_WD20EZRX-_-22-236-404-_-Product
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA6U12981064&cm_re=WD_Green_WD20EZRX-_-9SIA6U12981064-_-Product
I got a 10+ year old HDD of WD and still running without any errors. ;)
It's daily 16 hours in use. :D (\s/)
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Really? Okay karo please listen to me.
Phoenix Fire is linking EXTREMELY OLD out of stock shit because they don't know that SATA III is backwards compatible because they're a software person not a hardware person. Ignore them.
While I agree the best option would be to have a SSD for the OS and one or more data drives, Anski's suggestion is out of the running due to it being an all in one that as far as I can tell only has one 2.5" drive bay.
And while the external HDD top loader is super useful you're MUCH better served having a full enclosure for an external HDD unless you're planning on swapping them out often, those types of bays are MOSTLY technician tools. (We have SEVERAL at work for example.) Not to Mention that the drive bay anski linked is only USB 2.0 while your system should have a USB 3.0 connection which means you're gimping yourself with the transfer speed for no reason.
And while Trixie is closest to correct, the All in one only has (from limited info from samsung) one drive bay for a 2.5'' drive. it can either mount 1 Mechanical 2.5" SATA drive or 1 Solid State 2.5" drive.
Personally I would recommend this SSD from Crucial http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148793&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=
However here are some slightly cheaper alternates, though I really can't vouch for their build quality as we don't use them at work.
Here's a Mushkin SSD http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226596&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=
Here's a Samsung SSD http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147251&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=
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M500 is deprecated, replaced by the MX100 series.
I'd recommend a smaller SSD and then an external USB 3 regular hard drive for media & larger games and stuff. Buying a 1TB SSD right now is mental.
Look for a 512GB (or even 256) Samsung 840 EVO or Crucial MX100. Ignore pretty much everything else, other companies only take Samsung/Micron/Toshiba nand and re-brand it anyway.
Then look for an external USB 3 hard drive. USB 3 is more than fast enough for any mechanical HDD. You'll save a lot more money and get much more storage for your bucks.
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Still, for a 1TB SSD the M500 is the way to go IMO (roph likes the Samsung one). I do agree with Roph however a smaller SSD and a good External would be G R E A T (FUCKING WORD FILTERS) and end up around the same.
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Today is the day -supposebly- thank you everyone, your recommendations I'm holding on for it.
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Thank you everyone ~
M500 is deprecated, replaced by the MX100 series.
I'd recommend a smaller SSD and then an external USB 3 regular hard drive for media & larger games and stuff. Buying a 1TB SSD right now is mental.
Look for a 512GB (or even 256) Samsung 840 EVO or Crucial MX100. Ignore pretty much everything else, other companies only take Samsung/Micron/Toshiba nand and re-brand it anyway.
Then look for an external USB 3 hard drive. USB 3 is more than fast enough for any mechanical HDD. You'll save a lot more money and get much more storage for your bucks.
Something like these?
Samsung = http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147248&cm_re=Samsung_840_EVO-_-20-147-248-_-Product
Crucial = http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148821&cm_re=Crucial_MX100-_-20-148-821-_-Product
As for USB 3 Hard Drives, dunno which:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152409&cm_re=external_USB_3_hard_drive-_-22-152-409-_-Product
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822158170&cm_re=external_USB_3_hard_drive-_-22-158-170-_-Product
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822165569&cm_re=external_USB_3_hard_drive-_-22-165-569-_-Product
Catch the friend and he's now making plans with my acquaintance to have a date ready to reunite and discuss what will be done.
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For the external HDD I would buy that one you mentioned:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152409&cm_re=external_USB_3_hard_drive-_-22-152-409-_-Product
And after Crucial doing the best SSD'S, that's why I would chose that:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148821&cm_re=Crucial_MX100-_-20-148-821-_-Product
And guess you will never be in need to get more storage too. ;) (\s/)
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Thank you. With that in mind and all . . .
I'm posting to say, I'm having problem getting in contact with the person who supposebly 'is' going to help on putting the hard drive.
My Parents are impatient, and the money is going away quickly. My Friend is responding late and with no definitive answer.
My Dad wants to take the Computer to a technician. I have neither the tools nor knowledge or way to get the things and do the whole thing myself. I'm suck in this predicament this past few days since then.
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not all shops are created equal. just keep that in mind.
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What I went with then:
SAMSUNG 840 EVO MZ-7TE250BW 2.5" 250GB SATA 6Gb/s 1x nm Samsung Toggle DDR 2.0 3-Bit MLC NAND Flash Memory (400Mbps) Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
SAMSUNG D3 Station 6TB USB 3.0 3.5" Desktop External Hard DriveSTSHX-D601TDB Black
The external hardrive one came a week earlier, so I had been able to save everything, before I knew it, the hardrive of the computer started to go bad.
Acquaintance got to work on it on Friday, he . . . forgot that we had to download the drivers before we could install windows 8 on the new SSD (We had to tape it, it's so small).
I just got it tonight and just, going arround . . . it's so fast I got surprised when it started inmediatelly. ~ hehe
This issue is now solved, thank you everyone for your recommendations o/
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tape it?
so what the internal cage WAS a 3.5 inch hdd?
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tape it?
so what the internal cage WAS a 3.5 inch hdd?
Yes. It was.
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Sorry! I couldn't find proper documentation or a teardown guide on that exsact sub model. with an ssd you'd need a cage for that. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817994085 something like this would work fine. Sorry for misleading you, the closest models of samsung all in one's i could find info on had 2.5 inch drives.