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Title: A thread... about that one annoying guy...
Post by: Zylos on April 03, 2012, 03:39:30 PM
Likely you know who I'm talking about, since he/she/it has been around for quite some time. We've discussed methods for what to do about a certain member who is not likely to be bright enough to understand that we're talking about him/her/it and his/her/its stupidity and annoying tendencies. It was amusing at first, but now it's just kinda sad and annoying. Obviously though, the person in question isn't going to be banned since he/she/it hasn't broken any rules, and Halo has threatened not to ever invite me to another dinner party if that happened.

However, trolling isn't the recommended solution either, because the person in question not only doesn't fully grasp the fine intricacies of the English language, but they're too slow to notice your sarcasm and troll attempts. Plus, you know, young age may be a factor. So a much simpler method of dealing with this shadowy menace has been recommended: just ignore them. Ignoring them will be a much simpler way of showing them that he/she/it is not special, and will make the rest of us NOT look like douches trolling for the fun of it. Heck, we still have the ignore feature set up in our profiles so that we don't even have to read the person's posts if we don't want to.

So, just a friendly word of advice to ease up on the attempts to troll. The less attention you give, the more likely the situation will solve itself soon enough.
Title: Re: A thread... about that one guy...
Post by: Lethrface on April 03, 2012, 03:55:43 PM
I've seen situations like this in the past...what if he/she/it touches radioactive ooze and becomes Super *insert person's name* and terrorizes RMRK, all because they were getting ignored?!
Title: Re: A thread... about that one guy...
Post by: Zylos on April 03, 2012, 03:58:57 PM
Then they actually WILL get banned and we'll call it a day.  (https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi254.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fhh99%2FZylos_2007%2FSmilies%2Fzylos_whistle.gif&hash=1a97b344b3837f8392fe01f8bbc9546edcfd2a52)
Title: Re: A thread... about that one guy...
Post by: Lethrface on April 03, 2012, 04:35:28 PM
Then they actually WILL get banned and we'll call it a day.  (https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi254.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fhh99%2FZylos_2007%2FSmilies%2Fzylos_whistle.gif&hash=1a97b344b3837f8392fe01f8bbc9546edcfd2a52)
Genius.  This is a brilliant plan.
Title: Re: A thread... about that one annoying guy...
Post by: bluntsword on April 03, 2012, 04:36:05 PM
I'm a fixer by nature.  Part of me really wants to come alongside this poor chap/girl/thing and help him out.  I made games at *undisclosed age* (and they probably on par with *game name deleted to protect the guilty* but I think you're right.

So no more advice until he/she/it takes or calms down.  Hard, but I think the correct course.
Title: Re: A thread... about that one annoying guy...
Post by: D&P3 on April 03, 2012, 04:46:41 PM
Ignoring those who need help is not something I usually do, but I'll give it a go.
Title: Re: A thread... about that one annoying guy...
Post by: Zylos on April 03, 2012, 04:51:28 PM
It's more an attempt to rein in those non-stop bashing when the person in question clearly doesn't understand, than saying "don't help those in need".
Title: Re: A thread... about that one annoying guy...
Post by: bluntsword on April 03, 2012, 05:34:34 PM
Understood and well intended
Title: Re: A thread... about that one annoying guy...
Post by: Lethrface on April 03, 2012, 05:47:23 PM
Yeah I can see that.  In fact, it almost seems like most of it was friendly suggestions or playful teasing until frustration with how thick the guilty party's head is was apparent.  Might be best to just move on and worry about some of the other things going on...like some of the awesome looking stuff people are doing and pestering the judges to hurry and judge the GIAW games :P jk
Title: Re: A thread... about that one annoying guy...
Post by: EvilM00s on April 03, 2012, 08:30:28 PM
Acknowledged, fur sir.
Title: Re: A thread... about that one annoying guy...
Post by: joy on April 03, 2012, 08:41:57 PM
I'm just going to say...I wish folks spent as much time and as many posts on actual game development threads around here. Just sayin.
Title: Re: A thread... about that one annoying guy...
Post by: Lethrface on April 03, 2012, 09:15:52 PM
I'm just going to say...I wish folks spent as much time and as many posts on actual game development threads around here. Just sayin.

When you say something to someone and there is nothing else to speak about on the matter, that is all that can be done until there is an update or a response from the creator.  The person who shall not be named gave us plenty of reason to reply back much more frequently.
Title: Re: A thread... about that one annoying guy...
Post by: yuyu! on April 04, 2012, 12:05:07 AM
Iunno, I like stuff being posted here. 8) Adds some activity to my favorite section. <3

Either way, I'm all for the idea of paying less attention to he/she/it, but sometimes he/she/it makes it rather hard.

Note: side-effects of troll restraint may include: psychological hallucinations, increased anger, nausea, vomiting, headache, occasional stomach bleeding, loss of vision or hearing, and in rare, extreme cases, liver failure or arthritis. Restrained trolling is not for everyone; If you are pregnant or may become pregnant, please consult the Bean Bags (http://rmrk.net/index.php/board,90.0.html) before use of this method.
Title: Re: A thread... about that one annoying guy...
Post by: haloOfTheSun on April 04, 2012, 01:07:01 AM
Rare complications may include: projectile vomiting, 10 minute-intervals between bowel movements, spontaneous test-pilot knowledge, stigmata, the tendency to repeat the phrase "no can do", as well as an overwhelming impulse to shout out "I'M GONNA WHOP YOU WID DA UGLY STICK". Women may experience a 2 octave lowering of the voice.

Avoid red meat, shellfish, or vegetables. Okay foods: flounder. Under no circumstances eat yak. If you experience debilitating nausea along with raspy breathing, double the dosage. Do not restrain from trolling if you feel uneasy about getting lockjaw. Stay away from ringing telephones.

WARNING: This may result in your intestines shortening by 21 feet, and may cause birth defects retroactively. You may want to wear something lucky.

You may feel a sense of impending domm. This is because you are about to die.
Title: Re: A thread... about that one annoying guy...
Post by: Lethrface on April 04, 2012, 01:09:47 AM
I prefer impending domm. 
Title: Re: A thread... about that one annoying guy...
Post by: yuyu! on April 04, 2012, 01:14:29 AM
Fixed.

And, dayum, Halo is super creative today~ :o
Title: Re: A thread... about that one annoying guy...
Post by: Fall From Eden on April 04, 2012, 01:19:40 AM
Fixed.

And, dayum, Halo is super creative today~ :o
Eden: I don't know, that was more or less what I was expecting when I saw he made a post in this thread. :P

On-topic, I honestly don't see how anyone can be quite as thick as this individual without intentionally being that way, so yes, I fully advocate ignoring them when they act out in some way or another. If they post normally, I have no problems with responding to that.
Title: Re: A thread... about that one annoying guy...
Post by: haloOfTheSun on April 04, 2012, 01:28:45 AM
Are you saying I'm becoming predictable? ._.
Title: Re: A thread... about that one annoying guy...
Post by: EvilM00s on April 04, 2012, 01:29:16 AM
Dude, he's like what, 13? Of course he's thick.

I only say this based on my experience raising children that age.
Title: Re: A thread... about that one annoying guy...
Post by: Fall From Eden on April 04, 2012, 01:55:07 AM
Are you saying I'm becoming predictable? ._.
Only more or less. ;)
Title: Re: A thread... about that one annoying guy...
Post by: modern algebra on April 04, 2012, 02:19:58 AM
Dude, he's like what, 13? Of course he's thick.

I only say this based on my experience raising children that age.

When I was 13, I cured cancer. It's age is no excuse.

Also, I agree with joy. There's no lack of projects which could actually benefit from constructive criticism or even just incomprehensible effusions of delight. That'd be cool too, considering how attention-starved so many of those great projects are.
Title: Re: A thread... about that one annoying guy...
Post by: pacdiggity on April 04, 2012, 02:37:34 AM
Yeah, well you created cancer when you were 6 too.

I LIKE PUZZLES!!!
Title: Re: A thread... about that one annoying guy...
Post by: Gracie on April 04, 2012, 10:55:17 AM
I have to agree with joy. I wish actual, you know, decent game topics got this much attention. It'd really liven things up around here.
Title: Re: A thread... about that one annoying guy...
Post by: D&P3 on April 04, 2012, 11:12:59 AM
Whilst I would like to agree with Joy

Lethrface is right, I have no reason to respond to game development threads that I have already looked into that has not yet received an update or positive response from the creator (this is a good example of a non-positive response (http://rmrk.net/index.php/topic,45472.0.html)).

And whilst there are many many threads that I have not seen yet, I can guarantee that I simply do not have time to look into all of them.
Title: Re: A thread... about that one annoying guy...
Post by: Gracie on April 04, 2012, 11:21:57 AM
I know, but still, paying as much attention to projects like that is just as much a waste of time.

You know, whatever. It'd be nice to see some positive discussion in this place rather than endless trolling n' shit, even though I love me some shit stirring.
Title: Re: A thread... about that one annoying guy...
Post by: modern algebra on April 04, 2012, 12:08:59 PM
Well, you do a lot more in the Projects section than most D&P3, so I don't think joy's comment was directed so much at you.
Title: Re: A thread... about that one annoying guy...
Post by: strike on April 04, 2012, 04:52:48 PM
It's almost always something with an rpgmaker thread though.

either the creator is a cocky douche with a good looking game or it's a bad looking game with someone who doesn't think it's bad at the helm and completely ignores or misunderstands constructive criticism or it's a thread with hardly any content that hasn't been updated in longer than 2 week and doesn't have a game or demo.

I swear 90% of the time no one posts in rpgmaker threads because there's a chance any criticism will be responded to with "fuk u ur rong my gaem is perfect" or something equally as stupid. reives thread got a good response, because even though he's really fucking good he's humble about it enough that you can point something out without him snapping at you.

shitstorms don't start themselves.
Title: Re: A thread... about that one annoying guy...
Post by: EvilM00s on April 04, 2012, 08:21:23 PM
When I was 13, I cured cancer.

I thought that was when you leaned how to divide by zero.
Title: Re: A thread... about that one annoying guy...
Post by: chewey on April 05, 2012, 12:09:26 AM
You're all talking about Irock, right?

I hate that guy.
Title: Re: A thread... about that one annoying guy...
Post by: Gracie on April 05, 2012, 12:13:40 AM
You're all talking about Irock, right?

I hate that guy.

Class.
Title: Re: A thread... about that one guy...
Post by: D&P3 on April 05, 2012, 04:09:06 AM
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi254.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fhh99%2FZylos_2007%2FSmilies%2Fzylos_whistle.gif&hash=1a97b344b3837f8392fe01f8bbc9546edcfd2a52)
Out of curiosity, how many of these smileys do you have?
Title: Re: A thread... about that one annoying guy...
Post by: firerain on April 08, 2012, 07:58:18 PM
shitstorms don't start themselves.
Title: Re: A thread... about that one annoying guy...
Post by: strike on April 09, 2012, 07:58:20 AM
but yeah, I think Irock is annoying too. :V
Title: Re: A thread... about that one annoying guy...
Post by: Holkeye on May 09, 2012, 03:36:58 PM
I'm starting to think that there's a lot more going on with him than simple ignorance or a language barrier. I think he might actually be autistic or retarded. He doesn't seem to understand context, and he explains away or ignores any attempts to correct him or show him things in another way. He doesn't finish things, but he starts projects in almost every area he can find. He doesn't seem capable of taking anything beyond face value. I've seen this before in kids that were autistic, but it was always in person, so it took me longer to notice. My point is that its not going to get any better, because he doesn't understand.
Title: Re: A thread... about that one annoying guy...
Post by: Zylos on May 09, 2012, 03:41:45 PM
If he is, I'd feel a little bad about calling him retarded. A little.
Title: Re: A thread... about that one annoying guy...
Post by: Gracie on May 09, 2012, 03:54:19 PM
Suddenly, everything makes sense.
Title: Re: A thread... about that one annoying guy...
Post by: Lethrface on May 09, 2012, 03:56:52 PM
I'm starting to think that there's a lot more going on with him than simple ignorance or a language barrier. I think he might actually be autistic or retarded. He doesn't seem to understand context, and he explains away or ignores any attempts to correct him or show him things in another way. He doesn't finish things, but he starts projects in almost every area he can find. He doesn't seem capable of taking anything beyond face value. I've seen this before in kids that were autistic, but it was always in person, so it took me longer to notice. My point is that its not going to get any better, because he doesn't understand.
He is a CHILD posting on the internet.  I don't know many CHILDREN that don't show these same signs.  It's like saying a kid has ADHD just because he doesn't want to sit still during class because he is bored and would rather be out doing other things.  In the RPG Maker community, the "He doesn't finish things, but he starts projects in almost every area he can find" statement is a COMMON trait amongst people in the RPG Maker community. The Majority of projects began by most members of the community go incomplete because people either lose interest in making them, get ridiculed because of how bad their game is or life just comes along and people just don't have time to finish their project.

It is as simple as this: there is a language barrier and he is ignorant (starting to really hate that word after yesterday lol).  If he would start thanking people for their help, people would probably be more willing to help him.  If he asked people to help him, he would probably be more likely to make a better project.  If he could make a better project, he would more than likely finish something and not move on to other things over and over again.

And yeah, he does need to stop posting topics.  I'm tired of hearing all the breaking news from the Philippines.
Title: Re: A thread... about that one annoying guy...
Post by: AssemblyRequired on May 09, 2012, 04:03:47 PM
To me, he just seems like a little kid craving for a little bit too much attention. Somehow, I don't think ignoring him will stop him, though.
Title: Re: A thread... about that one annoying guy...
Post by: Lethrface on May 09, 2012, 04:13:23 PM
To me, he just seems like a little kid craving for a little bit too much attention. Somehow, I don't think ignoring him will stop him, though.

It usually doesn't.  It usually just gets worse before it gets better.
Title: Re: A thread... about that one annoying guy...
Post by: Holkeye on May 09, 2012, 04:24:27 PM
No, I'm telling you its more than that. He's not just a child. I worked with kids like this for a few years. You get to know the signs. He's older than you think.
Title: Re: A thread... about that one annoying guy...
Post by: Lethrface on May 09, 2012, 04:27:06 PM
No, I'm telling you its more than that. He's not just a child.

Well, I guess 99% of the kids in the RPG Maker community whose English is poor are just autistic.  lol.
Title: Re: A thread... about that one annoying guy...
Post by: Dwarra? on May 09, 2012, 04:28:22 PM
I think he's just a weird kid dealing with a language barrier. There are some other members I'd pull the autism (or aspergers at the very least) card out on however.
Title: Re: A thread... about that one annoying guy...
Post by: Holkeye on May 09, 2012, 04:30:34 PM
Don't patronize me. I know what I'm talking about, even if you might not. What was your psych experience again?
Title: Re: A thread... about that one annoying guy...
Post by: Holkeye on May 09, 2012, 04:32:31 PM
Aspbergers is a form of autism.
Title: Re: A thread... about that one annoying guy...
Post by: Lethrface on May 09, 2012, 04:35:10 PM
Don't patronize me. I know what I'm talking about, even if you might not. What was your psych experience again?

You don't need psych experience to see that the kid acts exactly like I did when I was his age with the only difference being that I understand when people are being an asshole.  I'm also not patronizing you, I am pointing out how your analysis of the boy is faulty and you lack any other evidence to point to the kid being anything other than the kid just doesn't understand some things that us English speakers assume everyone else should know. 
Title: Re: A thread... about that one annoying guy...
Post by: Acolyte on May 09, 2012, 04:43:33 PM
I agree with Holk. I think there's more going on than just a language barrier. I've seen other foreign people on here that don't act this dense.
Title: Re: A thread... about that one annoying guy...
Post by: Holkeye on May 09, 2012, 04:48:02 PM
I agree that I don't know him personally, and would never truly diagnose or recommended meds for someone over the internet, but I know my experience. What has me even more interested though, is your total opposition to the very idea, and your apparent hostility toward me for the suggestion. Had some psych problems in the past? A family member, maybe?
Title: Re: A thread... about that one annoying guy...
Post by: Dwarra? on May 09, 2012, 04:48:32 PM
Aspbergers is a form of autism.
Yes it's part of the autism spectrum but you can have autism without aspergers and vice versa.
My point is he isn't much different to deal with than a lot of other members we have, he just has the added bonus of not understanding English very well and probably grew up with different cultural implications.
Title: Re: A thread... about that one annoying guy...
Post by: firerain on May 09, 2012, 04:50:24 PM
Although I'm inclined to agree with Holk here due to his past experience with this, I don't think calling him out on having current/past issues about it was the right path to take.

However, this post is probably mostly hypocrisy due to the fact I'm a dick 99% of the time.
Title: Re: A thread... about that one annoying guy...
Post by: Mushu on May 09, 2012, 04:56:10 PM
It's a mixture of him being little and not fully knowing english. I mean yeah, there's mature kids at his age, we'll just assume he's not.
Title: Re: A thread... about that one annoying guy...
Post by: Lethrface on May 09, 2012, 05:05:58 PM
I agree that I don't know him personally, and would never truly diagnose or recommended meds for someone over the internet, but I know my experience. What has me even more interested though, is your total opposition to the very idea, and your apparent hostility toward me for the suggestion. Had some psych problems in the past? A family member, maybe?

What you call hostility is me being blunt. 
Title: Re: A thread... about that one annoying guy...
Post by: Holkeye on May 09, 2012, 05:12:14 PM
No, hostility is hostility. I'm blunt as well. And I didn't mean the past psych experience thing as to be vindictive or judging, just curiosity. Please don't take offense, but there's a reason behind every reaction.
Title: Re: A thread... about that one annoying guy...
Post by: Holkeye on May 09, 2012, 05:15:13 PM
Gotta go back to work guys, we're getting busy. Like I said don't take anything I've said with any ill will. I was just observing~
Title: Re: A thread... about that one annoying guy...
Post by: Lethrface on May 09, 2012, 05:24:44 PM
No, hostility is hostility. I'm blunt as well. And I didn't mean the past psych experience thing as to be vindictive or judging, just curiosity. Please don't take offense, but there's a reason behind every reaction.

Hostility is only hostility if you look at it as that.  I am simply stating what I think.  Before your most recent statement, I felt that you were being pretentious but I just didn't say it out of respect.  I'm not going to hold back what I think about something or someone just to be "socially acceptable" unless I just don't want to hear the bullshit.  If I think you're an idiot, I am going to say it.  If I think you are wrong, I am going to tell you that you are wrong.  Not once have I gotten hostile.  All I did was tell you why your idea of him being autistic could be wrong and then gave you a point of view by applying your theory to every other child who has been a part of the RPG Maker community with only few exceptions because they all share the same characteristics at some point.  At the most I would say about the boy is he's got ADHD.  Keep in mind, though, that I am not in complete opposition to what you say because I do not know the kid.  My only problem with your assertion is that you are making the claim based on traits that are common in most kids that I see on the internet. 
Title: Re: A thread... about that one annoying guy...
Post by: Holkeye on May 09, 2012, 05:45:13 PM
Seriously, you see nothing out of the ordinary in him? Even compared to other hyper kids?

Anyway, look, I don't know where this went into whatever it is between us, but lets just move on. This kind of internet bullshit bores me, and I have too much dumb shit in my life to add more to it. Long story short: I cool if you cool, cool?
Title: Re: A thread... about that one annoying guy...
Post by: Lethrface on May 09, 2012, 06:38:50 PM
Seriously, you see nothing out of the ordinary in him? Even compared to other hyper kids?

Anyway, look, I don't know where this went into whatever it is between us, but lets just move on. This kind of internet bullshit bores me, and I have too much dumb shit in my life to add more to it. Long story short: I cool if you cool, cool?

No I don't see anything out of the ordinary.  The only thing I see out of the ordinary is he isn't insulting Americans yet after all of the shit he went through.

We cool though.

Title: Re: A thread... about that one annoying guy...
Post by: Rief on May 09, 2012, 06:58:48 PM
I bet the one this is about is modern algebra...
everything points to it!

Well, i actually think that mysterious person A is a strange, but acceptable person. In some way, i like him.
Title: Re: A thread... about that one annoying guy...
Post by: firerain on May 09, 2012, 07:36:47 PM
shut up rief
Title: Re: A thread... about that one annoying guy...
Post by: chewey on May 09, 2012, 10:12:46 PM
There are some other members I'd pull the autism (or aspergers at the very least) card out on however.
Is it me? You're talking about me, aren't you?
Title: Re: A thread... about that one annoying guy...
Post by: Jules on May 09, 2012, 10:14:45 PM
Ok on reading Holk's posts, I kinda feel bad for disliking him now :(
Title: Re: A thread... about that one annoying guy...
Post by: chewey on May 09, 2012, 10:18:23 PM
My conscience is clear. Finally, I have inner peace.
Title: Re: A thread... about that one annoying guy...
Post by: Esmeralda on May 10, 2012, 08:59:38 AM
I don't know what to believe anymore, language barriers can be really tough (something I have experience with!) but it's pretty obvious he doesn't even read posts and he's pretty impulsive and has some fantasies going on. I'm gonna miss him!!
Title: Re: A thread... about that one annoying guy...
Post by: Jules on May 10, 2012, 10:35:38 AM
I honestly can't tell if you're serious or not. lol   I won't. If he does have those issues going on, this is definitely NOT the place for him.  And if he doesn't, this is definitely NOT the place for him.


Also leaning more towards the fact that he does have issues cause uh.. it was a prank that he knew was coming and he had a major melt down :o
Title: Re: A thread... about that one annoying guy...
Post by: firerain on May 10, 2012, 09:34:30 PM
Can everyone honestly shut the fuck up about Jomar? It's not that I feel bad, it's that it's becoming increasingly fucking annoying to come onto RMRK and see all the stupid unfunny bullshit Jomar and other members, including vets, alike post about it. Any humour it had was lost a while ago. Holy shit.
Title: Re: A thread... about that one annoying guy...
Post by: Lethrface on May 10, 2012, 09:37:43 PM
Can everyone honestly shut the fuck up about Jomar? It's not that I feel bad, it's that it's becoming increasingly fucking annoying to come onto RMRK and see all the stupid unfunny bullshit Jomar and other members, including vets, alike post about it. Any humour it had was lost a while ago. Holy shit.

Don't read it?  There are other topics that get attention.  Just focus on them.
Title: Re: A thread... about that one annoying guy...
Post by: firerain on May 10, 2012, 09:39:14 PM
It's fucking everywhere. And hardly. Check post history. Almost all of the recent ones have been about jomar.
Title: Re: A thread... about that one annoying guy...
Post by: haloOfTheSun on May 10, 2012, 09:49:19 PM
Can everyone honestly shut the fuck up about Jomar? It's not that I feel bad, it's that it's becoming increasingly fucking annoying to come onto RMRK and see all the stupid unfunny bullshit Jomar and other members, including vets, alike post about it. Any humour it had was lost a while ago. Holy shit.

Don't read it?  There are other topics that get attention.  Just focus on them.

Or everyone could just ignore him and stop making dozens of posts about him like we've been telling people to do for over a fucking month
Title: Re: A thread... about that one annoying guy...
Post by: Fall From Eden on May 10, 2012, 10:10:48 PM
All I have to say is that we've mostly ignored his posts in the first place. Really, there's not a whole lot to respond to in the majority of them that we've seen, and his apparent inability to respond appropriately has just made them that much easier to ignore.

Well, that, and that the irony of this latest string of posts is palpable. :P
Title: Re: A thread... about that one annoying guy...
Post by: Jules on May 10, 2012, 11:56:37 PM
:)
Spoiler for:
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F5abWL.jpg&hash=70fd40ebf618f8ce6ae017d3020c137890d9905c)
Title: Re: A thread... about that one annoying guy...
Post by: Esmeralda on May 11, 2012, 12:25:34 AM
Dang Jules put some pants on ._.;