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RMRK General => General Chat => Topic started by: Kokowam on November 17, 2008, 03:22:20 AM

Title: Dragonica is not always awesome.
Post by: Kokowam on November 17, 2008, 03:22:20 AM

I need more RAM and a better video card. As for the video card, I just need something that's just okay: good enough to get me through low to medium-end games.

As for the RAM, any information as what would be good would be cool.

Now, having never done this before, I've got some questions, lol:
1) Do stores sell any of this?
2) Do all parts work with every computer?

My guess is "yes" for both. Thanks in advance.

Title: Re: My computer is crap.
Post by: :) on November 17, 2008, 03:32:36 AM

specs of current computer please.

Title: Re: My computer is crap.
Post by: Kokowam on November 17, 2008, 11:46:41 AM

Uh, it's basically a Dell Dimension 4100, whatever the heck may be in it. Here's what the comp says:

Windows XP Professional
SP2

Intel(R)
Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.20 GHz
2.19 GHz
128 MB of RAM (LOL)

My video card would be: Intel(R)82845G/GL/GE/PE/GV Graphics Controller (Intel(R) 82845G Graphics Controller), which I know is probably crap.

Title: Re: My computer is crap.
Post by: codemeister1990 on November 17, 2008, 11:55:55 AM

sounds like my shitty laptop
glad to know I'm not the only one suffering :P

Title: Re: My computer is crap.
Post by: Sophist on November 17, 2008, 01:14:20 PM

You're going to have to know what type of RAM you have. Get CPUz, take a screenshot of both of the tabs

Title: Re: My computer is crap.
Post by: Roph on November 17, 2008, 01:20:28 PM

Jesus christ 128mb ram.

make that 1GB+ and that thing will run nicely. The memory tab of CPU-Z tells you what type of memory you have. Since it's a 2.2 P4, it's almost definitely DDR, in which case get this:

pqi POWER Series 1GB 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) Desktop Memory ($22) (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820141198). Or 2 of them, if you have 2 slots. I run with a similar powered CPU and 1.5GB DDR400, it's pretty nice =o.

Check the mainboard tab of your CPU-Z too, and look under graphics interface. Though it might be misleading. Sometimes motherboards have a built in AGP bus for the built in graphics chips (intel is integrated, not a standalone card) and actually have no slot. You'll need to look inside your computer for the easiest way of telling if you have an AGP slot.

Title: Re: My computer is crap.
Post by: Kokowam on November 17, 2008, 08:07:46 PM

Yeah, It's DDR.

There's nothing under "Graphics Interface." I'll check for an AGP slot when/if I get my RAM.

EDIT: YAY! My parents are buying me it. :) Now it's only a matter of 3-7 days, I think.

Title: Re: My computer is crap.
Post by: Arrow on November 18, 2008, 11:35:48 PM

Lucky you! 8D Congratz.

Title: Re: My computer is crap.
Post by: Kathryn on November 20, 2008, 12:07:16 AM

Feel special, i had to pay for my own RAM :tpg:

Spoiler for:

Title: Re: My computer is crap.
Post by: :) on November 20, 2008, 12:20:49 AM

booo ram :mad:

hope it runs well :D

Title: Re: My computer is crap.
Post by: Kokowam on November 20, 2008, 02:04:11 AM

Quote from: kitkatkan on November 20, 2008, 12:07:16 AM

Feel special, i had to pay for my own RAM :tpg:

Spoiler for:
It's damn good RAM though :tpg:

the sixty dollar stuff.

Which probably isn't that expensive, but it runs reaaaaal nice 8)

I kinda have to pay for half of it. Being 14, I get allowance so it's, like, kinda paying for it... >_> I'm assuming you worked for your money, which must feel all the sweeter.

@Noum: Why boo ?_?

Title: Re: My computer is crap.
Post by: :) on November 20, 2008, 03:17:27 AM

I was just kidding ;9

Title: Re: My computer is crap.
Post by: Leventhan on November 20, 2008, 08:57:40 AM

what

Congrats moo. ;8

Title: Re: My computer is crap.
Post by: Link on November 20, 2008, 12:09:28 PM

I get my college to pay it for me :D

£700-£1200 is what im getting this year :)

Title: Re: My computer is crap.
Post by: Kokowam on November 23, 2008, 11:17:51 PM

YAY! INSTALLED AND WORKING. THINGS ARE SO MUCH NICER. <3 The only time things freeze up is when the internet's just too slow.

Title: Re: My computer is awesome.
Post by: Kathryn on November 26, 2008, 02:04:19 AM

I love my sixty dollar ram too, so i shall rejoice with you :3

seriously though, if i use someone else's computer, than i won't be able to run all of my applications without it freezing constantly. When i move out, i'm ripping the ram out of my computer and keeping it with me for all time. No one else is allowed to have it.

Title: Re: My computer is awesome.
Post by: Kokowam on November 27, 2008, 04:03:56 AM

Lololol. Mine was $28 and I would move it to my better comp in the future but it's DDR2.

Title: Re: My computer is awesome.
Post by: brutebasher9 on December 10, 2008, 09:40:03 PM

Quote from: *kitkatkan* on November 26, 2008, 02:04:19 AM

I love my sixty dollar ram too, so i shall rejoice with you :3

seriously though, if i use someone else's computer, than i won't be able to run all of my applications without it freezing constantly. When i move out, i'm ripping the ram out of my computer and keeping it with me for all time. No one else is allowed to have it.

*twitches after reading* Hey, kitkatkan and mastermoo, you may want to keep your anti-static bags (that should've came with your RAM inside of them) if you were ever thinking of throwing them out.
Fun fact?: Touching the circuitry with your fingers or any card can damage the lifespan.

Title: Re: My computer is awesome.
Post by: Moss. on December 11, 2008, 06:21:00 PM

I'm pretty sure RAM is RAM, guys. $60 1 gig RAM is exactly the same as $22 1 gig RAM.

I have 2 gigs in my macbook. Cost me about $40. If I'd bought through Apple's store, it would have cost me upwards of $70.

So, shop around. Or listen to Roph.

Title: Re: My computer is awesome.
Post by: tSwitch on December 11, 2008, 10:04:02 PM

Quote from: arlen on December 11, 2008, 06:21:00 PM

I'm pretty sure RAM is RAM, guys. $60 1 gig RAM is exactly the same as $22 1 gig RAM.

I have 2 gigs in my macbook. Cost me about $40. If I'd bought through Apple's store, it would have cost me upwards of $70.

So, shop around. Or listen to Roph.

there's different types of ram, that work with different processors. you need to get RAM based on the processor you have. I'm not certain why price is different, but perhaps it has to do with more powerful processors or something.

Title: Re: My computer is awesome.
Post by: Moss. on December 11, 2008, 10:27:07 PM

Well I know that, but I meant beyond that. The exact same RAM, that will work in the exact same computer, can have radically different prices depending on where you buy it. That was my point. And it has to do with buying through a supplier or factory direct.

Title: Re: My computer is awesome.
Post by: Link on December 11, 2008, 10:36:10 PM

The faster the RAM the more it costs,also 1x1gig is better than 1x2gig, and like anything else you pay for the brand :/

Also depends on if it's DDR2/3

DDR3 Cost a hell of a lot more D:

Title: Re: My computer is awesome.
Post by: Moss. on December 11, 2008, 10:55:49 PM

http://store.apple.com/us/memorymodel/ME_13_2_2_MB_G4

Quote

Apple Memory Module 2GB 667MHz DDR2 (PC2-5300) 2x1GB SO-DIMMs

2 x 1gig = $150.

http://www.memorysuppliers.com/ir1gbddpc66s.html

Quote

iRam 1GB DDR2 PC2-5300 667MHz 200-Pin SDRAM SODIMM

2 x 1gig = $54.

Both DDR2. Both 667MHz. Both PC2-5300 speed. Both 100% compatible with my computer.

Price != Quality. That's all I'm saying. Nothing more or less.

Title: Re: My computer is awesome.
Post by: Crankeye on December 11, 2008, 11:21:47 PM

Quote from: arlen on December 11, 2008, 10:55:49 PM

http://store.apple.com/us/memorymodel/ME_13_2_2_MB_G4
Quote
Apple Memory Module 2GB 667MHz DDR2 (PC2-5300) 2x1GB SO-DIMMs
2 x 1gig = $150.

http://www.memorysuppliers.com/ir1gbddpc66s.html
Quote
iRam 1GB DDR2 PC2-5300 667MHz 200-Pin SDRAM SODIMM
2 x 1gig = $54.

Both DDR2. Both 667MHz. Both PC2-5300 speed. Both 100% compatible with my computer.

Price != Quality. That's all I'm saying. Nothing more or less.

OMG Fail on the Apple Ram. All they did was emblazon their Apple logo and magically its costs $150. If your going to get RAM, you can find some of the best deals online at www.newegg.com and www.tigerdirect.com . As a general rule of thumb your going to pay more for the "look"of the ram (ie heatspreaders etc) and the lower CAS latency times (lower is better in most cases). Generally, older ram actually costs more just because. I assume they have some sort of imaginary short supply for older ram.

Oh and If you need to figure out how much RAM your computer can take and the maximum speed crucial has a nice tool on their website that works nearly every consumer based computer. You just punch in the brand and model number and it will tell you how much each slot can hold and what the maximum speed your motherboard is designed for.

Title: Re: My computer is awesome.
Post by: Sophist on December 11, 2008, 11:33:06 PM

CRANKEYE WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN

Title: Re: My computer is awesome.
Post by: Kokowam on August 13, 2009, 04:26:38 AM

Okay, major necro-post, but I feel that since it's related to the exact same topic, I might as well use this topic considering a lot of the information that people will ask for is already here.

So, I'm thinking of asking for more RAM for my computer (Dell Dimension 2400, read that it supports up to 2048 MB) because Dragonica takes up a deadly 500,000K of CPU Usage which I'm guessing is related to the amount of RAM it's using. So, hopefully that'd make it run smoother. ;-; If not, stop me right here, tell me to shut up, and save for a better computer (of course, that third one is still in progress, kinda >_>)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2%2050001716%2040000147%201052307858&name=1GB&SpeTabStoreType=1

I'm looking for 1 GB, and I'm DDR. Idk how pins relate (I'm guessing I'm 184 since that's what the one Roph recommended last time was). But things seem to have gotten more expensive. ;-;

EDIT: Looked at crankeye's second site and these are results:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/category/category_slc.asp?Lprice=0.01&Hprice=24.99&Nav=|c:147|&Sort=0&Recs=10 (http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/category/category_slc.asp?Lprice=0.01&Hprice=24.99&Nav=|c:147|&Sort=0&Recs=10)
The prices are looking nicer. ;-; So for my computer, what'd be good? #3 and #4 are the only 1 GB RAM there is, and #3 is cheaper, but since they're only a couple of dollars apart, I wanted to know if quality was worth it. Or if it's just the design of the RAM that makes it more expensive. >_> Plus, it's apparently "Order today, Ship today" so that's pretty cool.

Title: Re: Dragonica is not always awesome.
Post by: Roph on August 15, 2009, 03:44:22 PM

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1170139&CatId=147

RAM prices are sometimes just bullshit, but there is more to memory than capacity and the clock speed.

Higher priced, higher quality memory will be able to reach higher clock speeds, have lower latency (expensive low latency 800Mhz ram can outperform cheap high latency 1066mhz ram) and also need less voltage, making it use less power and generate less heat.

Title: Re: Dragonica is not always awesome.
Post by: Kokowam on August 16, 2009, 04:25:56 AM

So, I'm guessing you're recommending that one. :P

And yeah, I've always known that more expensive memory can be better due to better quality. Just never knew what that meant until now. :P Thanks :)

EDIT: Reading up again on what you just said and looking back at the link I gave for choices showed me that I'd be paying a dollar more for that 24.99 RAM, lol. So the Corsair thang seems to be the way to go.

So, would getting RAM boost up computer speed for Dragonica? I'm guessing it would, but a check would be nice.

Also, for future knowledge, lower CAS Latency and lower V is better, right?

EDIT:
DDR only goes up to 400Mhz. :P Okay.
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1170139&CatId=147
3 CAS Latency and 400Mhz.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820159107
2.5 CAS latency and 333Mhz.

Is 2.5 lat/333MhZ generally better than 3 lat/400Mhz? If not, ignore next question. :P

Are the extra $3 worth it? Considering I wouldn't need to fill out any rebate and it's only $3, it seems so (only if the 2.5 CAS is better)

Title: Re: Dragonica is not always awesome.
Post by: Roph on August 18, 2009, 12:25:52 AM

Your computer is too shit for it to make any noticeable difference.

Title: Re: Dragonica is not always awesome.
Post by: Kokowam on August 18, 2009, 01:21:29 AM

Ahahaha okay then. Sounds reasonable.

Title: Re: Dragonica is not always awesome.
Post by: Lazer Ki on August 18, 2009, 01:26:21 AM

well i only have 740 MB of RAM and Dragonica lags a little.

Title: Re: Dragonica is not always awesome.
Post by: Kokowam on August 18, 2009, 03:42:56 AM

I can play Dragonica okay, but it's not desirable. I want lagless. Internet's not a problem. It's a problem with my computer.

Either that or it's that the server's in Singapore or w/e, and my computer has to try really hard to try to connect to there like that. >_>

Title: Re: Dragonica is not always awesome.
Post by: Kokowam on August 18, 2009, 10:22:00 PM

BUMP: I found this - It says this RAM (which I found to be the best price out of everything I've looked for if you count the rebate):
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1170139&csid=ITD&body=REVIEWS#tabs

Will run at PC2100... That's 333Mhz, right? Is it still the whole "my computer's too crappy to make a difference" or is it worth looking for something that's still PC3200 for a coupla dollars?

Title: Re: Dragonica is not always awesome.
Post by: Kokowam on August 20, 2009, 03:11:35 AM

o_o You sure you're looking at the right stuff?

ALSO, I found out that my computer just simply runs at 333Mhz or w/e, so there's no way around it. Cheapest price it is.

Title: Re: Dragonica is not always awesome.
Post by: Kokowam on August 20, 2009, 08:52:52 PM

Oh. >_> You never specified the 1066Mhz. That's, like, more than the speed of my RAM. >_> This computer only uses 333Mhz, even if the RAM is 400Mhz.

Also, HUZZAH:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4222291&pagenumber=2&RSort=1&csid=ITD&recordsPerPage=5&body=#ReviewStart

$40 RAM on TigerDirect shot down to $20. And it's not looking bad, considering it'll fit my computer well.

Title: Re: Dragonica is not always awesome.
Post by: Lazer Ki on August 20, 2009, 11:26:41 PM

Wow. Dragonica still lags on a 1GB RAM.

Title: Re: Dragonica is not always awesome.
Post by: Kokowam on August 21, 2009, 01:07:06 AM

Lag was greatly reduced recently since there's very little people on. Plus, the server's in Singapore or w/e so it affects it a lot.

Title: Re: Dragonica is not always awesome.
Post by: Lazer Ki on August 21, 2009, 04:25:58 AM

Quote from: mastermoo420 on August 21, 2009, 01:07:06 AM

Lag was greatly reduced recently since there's very little people on. Plus, the server's in Singapore or w/e so it affects it a lot.

O_O

holy shite, that's on the other side of the world for me. :o

Title: Re: Dragonica is not always awesome.
Post by: Grafikal on August 21, 2009, 04:51:10 AM

It's on the other side of the world for most of us dude. Or at least not in our backyard for sure. Also, I'm sure you've heard about the earthquake that took out an underwater cable that was feeding us to that server. We got rerouted through a smaller and full of more traffic cable which we suffer in lag in-game. It's gotten much better for me though in the past couple days. So they might have fixed it or rerouted again to a better cable or something.

Title: Re: Dragonica is not always awesome.
Post by: Sirius on August 21, 2009, 05:10:23 AM

Just so you guys know, the THQ Ice beta servers opened yesterday (Based in North America). It might be worth checking out, though we'd lose the characters we have now, and there's no guarantee that we won't get wiped when they shed the beta title.

Title: Re: Dragonica is not always awesome.
Post by: Grafikal on August 21, 2009, 05:13:33 AM

I've read someplace on the forum there that they won't be wiping characters. Just things that won't be allowed in not beta. I guess some cash items and stuff. Cool that the USA server is open. We'll have to check it out. I'll probably make something on it for the sake of not bitching because I'm lagging perhaps. I won't be making a warrior though ._. Maybe a thief. They have cool outfits.

Title: Re: Dragonica is not always awesome.
Post by: Lazer Ki on August 21, 2009, 01:17:11 PM

Huh, that's cool that they opened the USA server.
At least I might suffer less lag...

Title: Re: Dragonica is not always awesome.
Post by: Kokowam on August 21, 2009, 02:02:07 PM

I think we should move to the US server. D:

Title: Re: Dragonica is not always awesome.
Post by: Kefka on August 22, 2009, 06:35:24 AM

where is the other servers located anyways?

My computer runs the game runs fine with little lag.I only have 1gb of ram.

Spoiler for Specs (If it helps):

Title: Re: Dragonica is not always awesome.
Post by: Grafikal on August 22, 2009, 07:33:06 AM

They are located in the USA. In game though, I haven't looked. I haven't had a solid internet connection for longer than a 5-10 minute time span from all this rain and shit. We had a tornado touch down or almost touch down yesterday.

Title: Re: Dragonica is not always awesome.
Post by: Sirius on August 22, 2009, 07:49:04 AM

IAH - Singapore (Asia)

gPotato - Europe-ish

THQ - North America

Why they need 3 different servers for the same game is beyond me, but that's just how they roll.

Title: Re: Dragonica is not always awesome.
Post by: Kokowam on August 22, 2009, 09:18:08 AM

Well, the closer the server, the faster it is for the people in those areas, durr. :P

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