landofshadows (7 minutes ago) Marked as spam
My Comment got deleted... Any person of any age can watch this, the amount of blood and violence even though it is animals could upset the younger kids that browse this site...
Add an age restriction please !!!
Pwirtz0387 - Mailed me and told me to stop acting like a baby... It's not me I am concerned about, it's the Kids, under 12 that may find this upsetting... An if Animal rights get to see this they wont be impressed.
Your opinion would be the same if it was a video of a lioness chasing down and devouring a wildebeest.
QuoteYour opinion would be the same if it was a video of a lioness chasing down and devouring a wildebeest.
Don't tell me what my opinions are... That's not a true statement at all... Lion's Eat wilderbeast, its a natural event, kids need to learn that, I learnt that at a young age... This Video is wrong on so many levels, I didn't want to post some thing that may offend the Korean's, so I attacked it from a different angle... And I have Emailed An animal rights group... No doubt the wrong one:- http://www.faace.co.uk/
By the way, FAACE stands for "Fight Against Animal Cruelty in Europe.
Well, excuse me. I'll never assume what your opinions are without reading six or seven of your posts on the subject ever again.
So: your objection is that these two animals fighting isn't natural? That is why kids shouldn't see it?
(remember this video is just an example)
And some times the comments shock me more than the Video, the Topic is "Is You Tube becoming a Breeding ground for Violence ?"....
Besides people making comments you disapprove of, you haven't explained why kids shouldn't see the video or how it inspires violence.
Besides people making comments you disapprove of
Kids watching other kids knocking each other out for fun is fine...?
i mean i nearly broke this kids ankle in when i was 10 'cus i was copying a move.
By what right do you claim that depicted environments showing violent situations to children will have bad effects..? Each generational gap has been slowly exposed to more and more violent and sex endowed situations, show somebody in the 50's one of our "PG 13+" movies and they would be horrified that we would show our children such demoralised filth.
Quotei mean i nearly broke this kids ankle in when i was 10 'cus i was copying a move.
I hope kids don't watch the above idiots and attempt that at school... You Tube fights, have you seen how many people are standing around filming the event rather than stopping it...?
If I ever have kids and one of them ends up on You Tube getting battered or doing the battering, I wouldn't be happy.
For some reason youth's of today encourage violence and egg people on to do the damage to another...
To be honest I thought I would get more support... No wonder kids carry knives and guns to school.
You Tube is letting people view REAL acts of Violence as Entertainment that in a court of law would have the person attacking the VICTIM locked up for GBH... Of course I think this is wrong, it almost Glamorises Violence as fun and cool... And yes I think this does change young peoples way of thinking... I can see a big difference between my generation (28 year olds) Compared to 18 year olds of today, it's only ten years... For example Trident had to be put together to tackle gun related attacks amongst kids in London... A Gun related incident 10 years ago was very rare epically amongst youths, in England.
Search You Tube, it wont take you long to see some thing that turns your stomach.
Look, are we having a debate on violence and children, or a debate on youtube?
for the love of god
Those "REAL" acts of violence compared to dramatised or fictional acts of violence differ how ?
The news showing a man being stabbed to death or SVU showing it really makes no difference in my eye if both look identical.
Again, this is simply your view, show me the research!
Take the fight video's aired on Panorama last night on the BBC:- http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/panorama/6921555.stm
Well it wasn't as bloody as you said, I was expecting entrails of one of the animals strewn around the cage by the end. I didn't find this entertaining, but in no way could it make me sick to my stomach. Animals live, animals die, I don't really care.
And you're seemingly incapable to getting your own point across without being an insufferable douchebag.
Or maybe "ignorant" would be a better word? That's what you are, willfully ignorant. You have learned absolutely nothing from this forum. You refuse to learn anything. You just spam this forum with the same tired shit.
You know you're an embarrassment to atheists and people who think global warming is real, right? You base all your conclusions on stereotypes and the vague opinions of your friends, and you make the groups you side with look like morons when you do. For example: you don't know a single thing about Christianity but you feel free to judge it and all sorts of other things based on what your friend heard about it from another friend, who told him about it a few years ago. All of your opinions are worthless for this reason.
You are a child; you don't know anything except what your parents and friends have told you. You behave like one also, locking threads when they don't go your way. Aren't you ever embarrassed in real life? Hasn't someone ever mocked you for being ignorant? Made you feel bad for thinking and acting the way you do? Someone has to have pointed out your shameful (and near-absolute) ignorance of the world around you, right?
Right?
There, I've had another rant. ;D
And you're seemingly incapable to getting your own point across without being an insufferable douchebag.
If they want to see animals go against each other, book a frickin safari tour or go study wildlife in Africa for a few months. You wanna see people beat each other up, buy tickets to a wrestling match. You wanna see someone get run over, join the military and go to another country. Otherwise, keep it off the net
I'm not "forcing"...
it seems like just posting my opinion, or that matter anyone posting theirs, is "forcing". What if I find your standpoint offecnding?
There's always someone out there with an opposing view, but on this subjecft I don't think we're gonna get anywhere. Violence is wrong but people keep pushing for it...I dunno. I'm gonna sign off on this discussion cuz it's at a tie and I've had my rants. landofshadows, you're not alone.
I'm not "forcing"...
it seems like just posting my opinion, or that matter anyone posting theirs, is "forcing". What if I find your standpoint offecnding?
There's always someone out there with an opposing view, but on this subjecft I don't think we're gonna get anywhere. Violence is wrong but people keep pushing for it...I dunno. I'm gonna sign off on this discussion cuz it's at a tie and I've had my rants. landofshadows, you're not alone.
but to find videos like these you have to specifically search for them.
Then what are you trying to do? You don't want to see that, so you're trying to stop others from seeing it? LoS said he's emailed whoever about the videos, presumably trying to get them removed so the rest of us can't see them. I guess this post is pointed more at LoS than you.
People find these clips because they want to find them. They view these clips because they want to view them.
True... Does the kid in your class watch it, does the 'kid' in your class laugh at some else's misfortune, will that Kid then get his mate and film you getting your head stamped on...?
Extream...? Nope that's whats happening.... Breeding of Violence.
No the 'kid' in my class is not the one watching these videos, I am. No, the kid in my class does not laugh at other peoples misfortunes, I do. Quite frankly, I laugh my ass off at these types of clips.
Is You Tube becoming a Breeding ground for Violence ?
... Some people don't have self control
Out of interest have you ever seen any thing that you would consider violent/ to the point it sickend you, made you head go light and your stomach turn ?
I think may be Youtube needs to have a new division, or have a regulatory standard set for certain classifications, if a new division to be set, have one as the below:-
And then for the one I added at the bottom on the above mock up, have some sort of rule that auto adds and age restriction check to it.
And what the fuck is that besides petty masturbation? You are referring to children who are ravage enough to commit acts of depraved violence simply because they have seen it. Your telling me they're going to think "OH SHIT, BETTER NOT WATCH THAT, IT'S 18+!"? You have solved nothing and have done nothing to stop this supposed outbreak of violent behavior. Congratulations.
Define your definition of "breeding ground for violence".
Then "some people" are going to get ass-raped in prison.
So what do you suggest ?
A Fad, turning into a culture... The films shown show multiple bystanders filming some of these events... Much like if a building on fire, the first thing some people do now is reach for their phone to film it rather than call it in... Same with these fights.
It's a change in tolerance of violence, and many people who view this may see the place they saw it as an outlet for their own version of it.
It's like on here, one person starts a Pokemon game, many do.... Some one starts a Pirate Game, many other do...
There will always be trend setters and people that follow.
Like the Jack Arse Culture or Bum Fights...
Emulation of Violence some one may deem as entertaining amounts to a breeding ground for Violence... If some one watches a clip on you tube goes away films some thing similar then places it on your tube, that's what I mean.
You Tube will assist the police but not contact them with concern's... they used to before the change over, I mean a man was arrested in a matter of 24 hours for bitting a mouses head off on You Tube (prior to the change).
Is You Tube becoming a Breeding ground for Violence ?
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It seems when I start posting in here people stop... I tend to kill topic's and guess that's what your trying to do to mine... Even though JH has kindly pointed out his opinion why that is, I think it has more to do with the fact if you did agree with some thing I say, you would feel a little unsettled... I mean most of what I say breaks from the norm, and norm is safe... JH I would say your a lamb that follows the flag blindly, or your friends... You need to grow a mind and think freely. Your blind and narrow minded, you watch a You Tube video of kids battering others you hear people laughing and assume it's your turn to laugh too and do so with out thinking. (You see this is what you do to me, paint a picture of me, and assume you know me... YOUR VERY WRONG 99% of the time).
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You know you're an embarrassment to atheists and people who think global warming is real, right? You base all your conclusions on stereotypes and the vague opinions of your friends, and you make the groups you side with look like morons when you do. For example: you don't know a single thing about Christianity but you feel free to judge it and all sorts of other things based on what your friend heard about it from another friend, who told him about it a few years ago. All of your opinions are worthless for this reason.
Here's some more YouTube videos that I am too lazy to provide a link to, so I've decided to just vomit them on your screen instead.
LOS, I'm sorry, but this time you are in fact wrong. Its a five to one argument here.
Even if it is a Five against one argument as you put it, I would say more have a different opinion than me, so there for I sit in the minority.
Only JH has viewed this as some thing other than that and tried to make it personal.
There was links given to the below, and an investigation into this sort of video violence done the other day, but people ignored it then asked for proof:-
I asked for evidence, not an essay. Show me the research done that shows an increase in youth violence because of youtube and websites like it!
No Los, therefore you sit the loser. Address the points set out or concede defeat.
Address the points set out or concede defeat.
(Debate doesn't equal an argueement, through out I have kept my side at least as a debate, and most other on the other side have too).
There was links given to the below, and an investigation into this sort of video violence done the other day, but people ignored it then asked for proof
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I suppose you didn't read it... It goes on to say how the NET is pretty much hosting Fight Clubs for Kids... And in sense it is.
You are a few... To be honest I kind of expected some of the answers I got, most f you are of a younger generation, and many from across the pond... [happy slapping anecdote] I think the people uploading these video's should face the same sort of punishment.
QuoteAddress the points set out or concede defeat.
How about, No...
Why? Because you don't like them? That's the only reason you've given us.
Furthermore, your attempt to make someone with a cell phone in the park the equal of rapists and murderers is pathetic. Believe it or not, videos of people fighting (which, by the way, was not what the debate was originally about) is legal and will remain so no matter how much you don't like it.
If you invade some ones personal space, or so much as push them, that's common assault... If you mark some one that's ABH, if you injure or hospitalise or disfigure some one that's GBH... All are against the Law here in England... Hence why I don't see any Entertainment value in watching some thing that isn't common place in England, it's shocking to me.