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Other Game Creation => Program Troubleshooting => Topic started by: Viper on March 01, 2006, 10:44:22 PM

Title: Destructive Criticism
Post by: Viper on March 01, 2006, 10:44:22 PM
Well here it is, I am at a focal point right now where just about everything I am placing on maps is beginning to tick me off because it just doesn't look right. Maybe it's just me being overly picky or whatever.

So I am calling for some destructive criticism here. I need to know what else I can do to make this thing "look" better. Give me the nitty gritty, and if there are and good points, feel free to express those too so I won't "accidentally" delete them.

Here is a single screen shot of a town that I just made called "Pavilion". Just to let you know the reason why I only put one screen is because the rest of the town looks just about the same as that single screen. The only difference is the size of the buildings.

Deleted ** Town scrapped
Title: Destructive Criticism
Post by: RPGPersonell on March 01, 2006, 10:47:43 PM
Another window or two and it'll look awesome.  But that's just me.
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Post by: blueXx on March 01, 2006, 10:50:13 PM
the grass color switch looks too odd...
it's like you frame the dirt perfectly while the dirt should be mind after the grass (naturally no one plants stuff to circle perfectly dirt in the middle of a town while they could plant grass on the dirt, thus the dirt came later)

and you could add flowers and bushes and stuff
tbe sign on the middle building is odd
you should put it next to a wall like

|=====|sign here

|="frame wall"
= =wall

other than that it can really use a flower or , or bushes or stones
maybe a small hut.. i dunno

i wish i could map like that, my maps always smell, but at least i know how to improve stuff others make heh "^^
Title: Destructive Criticism
Post by: Viper on March 01, 2006, 11:06:12 PM
As far as windows goes, I despise them more on this tile set than any other. They don't match the buildings...kind of like the doors. I was just thinking about building a bunch of prisons.

blue: I know unfortunately as far as the dirt goes I have a layer problem I need to address. It looked a lot better on the second than actually running the test.  :lol:

As far as the "little hut goes" the dimensions of the town is pretty tiny...70X40 and there is already about 10 buildings within the city itself. I was thinking about adding a couple more and now I have just got clarification. Thanks  8)
Title: Destructive Criticism
Post by: ahref on March 03, 2006, 04:21:59 PM
i would suggest taking of some of the vines on the corners
Title: Destructive Criticism
Post by: Viper on March 03, 2006, 04:28:33 PM
I scrapped this town, rebuilding a new one. The layering was a little off.
Title: Destructive Criticism
Post by: dracohaze on March 03, 2006, 05:46:29 PM
umm... little :O_o:  :roll:  :shock: ?
lol, I believe your layering is the only thing that causes it not to look right.
Fix that it would look fine.
Quote
Fix that it would look fine

*Matters on your style of mapping*
Title: Destructive Criticism
Post by: Viper on March 03, 2006, 05:53:07 PM
The new town...(as posted before in a different thread), the layering is perfect in it. So I am not having any problems putting anything where I want it to go  :lol: plus discovering that you can use events for images... :roll:
Title: Destructive Criticism
Post by: dracohaze on March 03, 2006, 09:22:39 PM
Well, goodluck with the game.
PS: If you ever need help with making a dungeon, (my favorite type of mapping), just ask, I enjoy it.
Title: Destructive Criticism
Post by: Viper on March 03, 2006, 09:37:27 PM
Yeah actually I need a sewer :lol:. I've been on one room for about 4 days now and I haven't really had the time to set the quest in motion (i.e. conditional branches...ect...)
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Post by: dracohaze on March 04, 2006, 12:19:07 AM
ok, well, just tell me what you would like, and send me what you have done with the room so far; I use the illegal version, otherly known as,
"Postality Knights Edition"
Title: Destructive Criticism
Post by: Viper on March 04, 2006, 08:54:56 AM
No, no the room isn't in the sewer...the room is in the town. So I need an underground sewer made.  :shock:
Title: Destructive Criticism
Post by: dracohaze on March 04, 2006, 11:49:47 AM
Oh, in that case, just tell me what you would want it to look like; such as:

-How many entrances/exits are in the sewers? And are there any special spots they should be in?
-Is their a certain size you would like it to be?
-Is it a maze type sewer? Is it a plain sewer?

There, all you have to do is answer them three question. And give any other important information on it you think I should know :D
Title: Destructive Criticism
Post by: Viper on March 04, 2006, 12:18:40 PM
Alrighty, I'll give you some background on the first tiny quest.

The main character's sister has locked herself in her grandmother's holding cell where she keeps a few valuable items. Missy unfortunately was overcome with curiosity and one night stole her grandmother's key from her apron pocket as she slept. Missy ran down stairs to open the gate up to have a look, and when she finally did walk into the cell, the gate slammed shut and locked her in from the outside. The sound of the metal clashing together caused Missy to lose hold of key and it fell through a deep hole within the stone floor.

Aaron comes down to the basement after a while has passed and finds Missy crying because she was stuck. She is afraid that if their Grandma finds out that she was down there without her permission, she was going to get into a whole bunch of trouble. So she asks Aaron, after explaining what happened, to go and try to find the key before her grandmother starts to worry were she is and comes looking for her.

Aaron asks her does she know where it is? She says that she doesn't know for certain, but the hole that the key slipped down may lead into part of the city's sewer system and it might be down there. So if the quest is accepted, Aaron would need to go down to the town's sewer system and search out for this key.

Hopefully I explained this little dilemma well :lol:

1. The sewer should be a maze, otherwise it would be just too easy.
2. It should be at least 100x45 (after all, sewers systems are quite large)
3. There should be an average amount of exits, but there is only one entrance, which I have already set up in town. The exits are there mainly to throw the player off within the maze.
4. There should be some doors, but all of them should be locked (as such town "maintenance" only has permission to be down there and they have the keys)
5. Rats...a whole bunch of rats and very small creatures that you would normally find in sewers.
6. BGM : 035-Dungeon01  (leave the volume pitch at 100)
7. BGS : 016-Drips01 (Volume 70, pitch 100)

And anything else you can think of to make it look really good.  :D
Title: Destructive Criticism
Post by: dracohaze on March 04, 2006, 12:53:46 PM
ok, well I'll get to it :wink:
Title: Destructive Criticism
Post by: dracohaze on March 05, 2006, 12:56:10 AM
srry for the double post, but, here ya go.
Edit:
*I'm gonna PM it to ya*
Title: Destructive Criticism
Post by: dwarra on March 05, 2006, 12:58:04 AM
Quote from: Viper
Well here it is, I am at a focal point right now where just about everything I am placing on maps is beginning to tick me off because it just doesn't look right. Maybe it's just me being overly picky or whatever.

So I am calling for some destructive criticism here. I need to know what else I can do to make this thing "look" better. Give me the nitty gritty, and if there are and good points, feel free to express those too so I won't "accidentally" delete them.

Here is a single screen shot of a town that I just made called "Pavilion". Just to let you know the reason why I only put one screen is because the rest of the town looks just about the same as that single screen. The only difference is the size of the buildings.

(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi27.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc194%2FRedDrake%2FPavilion.jpg&hash=b2d6cb2d7192c4f19455e23cf8da9357203f7563)


The map sucks anyway.

Dirt on its own wont make a thing. It needs to be more compact.
Title: Destructive Criticism
Post by: dracohaze on March 05, 2006, 01:00:17 AM
huh?
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Post by: Viper on March 05, 2006, 01:04:14 AM
Dwarra, I don't know if you read or not that map was scrapped a couple of daysa go due to problems (i.e. too much space, not enough houses, trees ect. Being that it was my very first map I do think it was a step up from most people I've seen that had only downloaded the program a couple of days earlier. My new town is very VERY nice looking and when I get the chance I will post some screens.
Title: Destructive Criticism
Post by: dracohaze on March 05, 2006, 01:05:27 AM
Did ya get my map?
I don't like it too much, but you might :?
Title: Destructive Criticism
Post by: Viper on March 05, 2006, 01:07:01 AM
I just got the PM draco, and downloading here in a sec.
Title: Destructive Criticism
Post by: dwarra on March 05, 2006, 01:09:06 AM
Quote from: Viper
My new town is very VERY nice looking and when I get the chance I will post some screens.


Saying that isnt a good idea >.>

I thought that and meh...

Wait till people judge it ___:/
Title: Destructive Criticism
Post by: dracohaze on March 05, 2006, 01:10:50 AM
yeah viper, why dont you send me and/or him the map, we'll tell you if you should keep it or kick it :wink:
Title: Destructive Criticism
Post by: Viper on March 05, 2006, 01:20:24 AM
rem:
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Post by: dracohaze on March 05, 2006, 01:23:01 AM
the house on the right-middle is messed up...
other than that and a few ground errors, looks pretty good :wink:
Title: Destructive Criticism
Post by: Viper on March 05, 2006, 01:25:23 AM
A screenshot and actually playing the map is a little different.
Title: Destructive Criticism
Post by: dracohaze on March 05, 2006, 01:27:01 AM
thats why i said send us the map... :O_o:
Title: Destructive Criticism
Post by: Viper on March 05, 2006, 12:39:37 PM
I fixed the house on the right-middle and I would like to know about these ground errors.

And this map lags like a bitch due to having about 160 events in it. So I just installed an anti-lag script and it runs just fine now.
Title: Destructive Criticism
Post by: dracohaze on March 05, 2006, 01:18:58 PM
Can you tell me where you found that anti-lag script?
Or just post it here?

About them ground errors...
I can't remember, but I thought i saw a few in front of
the left-top house...
Title: Destructive Criticism
Post by: Viper on March 05, 2006, 01:33:11 PM
I'll go ahead and post the script in the script section.

And I know which one's you were talking about. Those are fixed aswell.
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Post by: dracohaze on March 05, 2006, 02:24:28 PM
ok, thanks.
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Post by: Viper on March 05, 2006, 02:35:51 PM
Well I just bought the legal version of RPGMXP, is there a way I can transfer files from PK? Or will it not read?
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Post by: dracohaze on March 05, 2006, 03:00:32 PM
yes, but I believe there are certain things you must do... And i think they also use different scripts, im not entirely sure :?
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Post by: Viper on March 05, 2006, 03:06:59 PM
Yeah I'm trying to transfer data but it's not recognizing most of it. At least it got my 150+ weapons, 160+ armor and items.
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Post by: dracohaze on March 05, 2006, 03:08:37 PM
keep using the one your using at the moment... it will be less of a hassle.
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Post by: Viper on March 05, 2006, 03:11:14 PM
Little too late with that, I've already started transferring things and deleted PK.

...EDIT: Probably should of stuck with PK, now the Slipknot script doesn't work.

...and I've just scrapped the entire fricken game because the piece of shit wouldn't work with the Slipknot message system. So, I've lost everything. YAY for me.  :evil:
Title: Destructive Criticism
Post by: xanaxx on March 05, 2006, 06:23:11 PM
it might be common sense, but I always have trouble making a roof on a bulding look right.  i can't find tiles to use or I misuse them or sumthing.  any1 have ne tips?
Title: Destructive Criticism
Post by: Viper on March 05, 2006, 06:29:42 PM
The tiles are all there, you just have to know how to use them. Practice makes perfect. Just play around with the layers a bit.
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Post by: xanaxx on March 05, 2006, 06:36:05 PM
chillin
ill give it some more tries
Title: Destructive Criticism
Post by: kaigen20 on March 07, 2006, 02:58:08 AM
too much vines on the houses.......some ground spot are squares and don't go with the terrain around it.............
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Post by: Viper on March 07, 2006, 03:07:02 AM
kaigen, the town is long done...let me remove those images so I'm not getting comments on deleted maps.
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Post by: dracohaze on March 07, 2006, 03:08:37 AM
Great, so someone, please lock this page!
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Post by: Blaze on March 07, 2006, 03:08:44 AM
Viper about your deleted stuff and some of your things that didn't transer. I'm sorry to hear about that, the same has happened to me here and there. but don't give up. I didn't I'm still currently working on my game.
Title: Destructive Criticism
Post by: kaigen20 on March 07, 2006, 03:15:53 AM
Quote from: Viper
kaigen, the town is long done...let me remove those images so I'm not getting comments on deleted maps.



opps stupid me...not really...i jsut jumpedd to post lol...srry
Title: Destructive Criticism
Post by: Viper on March 07, 2006, 04:13:29 AM
Yeah I made that map when I first downloaded the program, it wasn't great nor was it good.  8)
Title: Destructive Criticism
Post by: Viper on March 12, 2006, 06:07:13 AM
Alright, take a look at this small piece of interior that I did within 5 minutes time. I want you to tell me how god aweful it is so I can feel better about being a bad mapper  :shock:

(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi27.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc194%2FRedDrake%2Fsucks.png&hash=ea1a7e34826fee03f7caa8e929260f31b853c531)

I didn't include the entire map because the rest is blank. I ran out of ideas. Just judge on this little piece.  :roll:
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Post by: dracohaze on March 12, 2006, 12:17:02 PM
Thats not bad, just add something in the living room :wink:
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Post by: thatsmypie on March 12, 2006, 01:45:24 PM
Quote from: Viper
Alright, take a look at this small piece of interior that I did within 5 minutes time. I want you to tell me how god aweful it is so I can feel better about being a bad mapper  :shock:

(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi27.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc194%2FRedDrake%2Fsucks.png&hash=ea1a7e34826fee03f7caa8e929260f31b853c531)

I didn't include the entire map because the rest is blank. I ran out of ideas. Just judge on this little piece.  :roll:


WTF? Stop bein so god damn modest XD!

Your maping is fine, just stick something on that table and it will be perfect!
Title: Destructive Criticism
Post by: monster-doog on March 12, 2006, 02:41:18 PM
That looks pretty good. Maybe put some more objects in there.