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Other Game Creation => Program Troubleshooting => Topic started by: raitolight on December 28, 2006, 01:04:33 PM
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is been bugging me for a long time which is better! can someone tell me whats the difference between the 2? pros and cons for both would be good :D
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Enterbrain:
Pros:
100% in english...
Cons:
60 dollars after 30 day trial
Knights:
Pros:
Free
Cons:
Around 30% in jap...
Same:
They all have the basics down... its basically just if you want to pay for it or not...
(feel free to add more, who ever is on...)
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You forgot the best reason to get PK, teh Arshes! ZOMG I WUB ARSHES!
Actually it's best to get PK because RM isn't worth the 60 bucks. It's a cute lil tool, but not nearly worth 60 bucks.
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Enterbrain 102a English
[pros]
- 100% English Translated
- Bugs like Conditional Branch Money fixed
- Supported by hbgames.org and other sites
- Works with All versions of Netplay
- New DLL (no J glitch possible anymore)
- Standard fotn Tahoma not MS Pincho
[quasi-cons]
- Costs 60 dollars.
PK Knights Translated 100
[cons]
- 40% or even less translated
- Only works with version 1 of Netplay (which is like... old)
- Not supported by hbgames.org and other sites
- DLL can get corrupted
- Incompatibility with 102a
- Standard fotn MS Pincho, thus requireing workarounds
- Glitches on the Internal/Built-In Classes when modified
- Random Game.exe error
[pros]
- Free
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A Hybrid
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There are some who own this "hybrid". Though it's even more illegal than the PK version.
EDIT : Though I can't act like I havn't broken these laws before, I believe there was someone I helped obtain a liscence... *cough*
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Lol, more illegal than PK.
I thought that stuff either was illegal or legal. Apparently there must be some gray zone stuff.
You talk as if there only is one hybrid. I guess it means the existence of one quite popular hybrid.
My foundations for mentioning a hybrid was more theoretical and not very practical.
A hybrid from the though of combining the strengths of the to versions and discarding their weaknesses.
Me™ pretty much covered it all.
Well the official version also have cons like too little Show Message and Call Script box, which I think is fixed in the PK version.
I think PK Knights crashes if you try to make a conditional branch check the party's gold.
Maybe you can copy between the two program. (Have them open at the same time.)
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Erm.. a Hybrid like.. The Legal Version Patched? I have that... ;8
In the English version you can still have 4 lines usign the batch entry, and if you need so much space in a call script, your better of with the script editor. Jup.
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i dont get how is 40% translated, the one i have is fully translated.
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you probably have the actual version...
and if you don't... look in the script section. and when you do / it comes out a yen symbol(for making messages)... and when u create game disk, its 80% jap considering 20% as your file names...
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mine says 2.0 enhanced and the hp of an enemy can go up to 999,999. is there bugs in that version?
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Im on V.2 aswell, the only problem i ever get is the jp help files and occasionally it corrupts my .rxproj file. Its very annoying :'(
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I wish I had the money for the one better than PK edition.
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I've been using it for a while now...(not a clue which version I have) I just downloaded it from crankeye works perfectly fine...free too...possibly illegal...
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Get the Dyna Edition. It's rare, but definitely the best. I still regret changing to the legal one. :(
The only disadvantage of the Dyna Editon is that it's also a lot of Japanese there. If I only could get the RPGXP.exe of the Dyna Edition I can create a cracked version that actually works. It would even have an improved Scripts.rxdata that doesn't have the lag during message windows and/or event-forced animations during battle.
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Seriously, what advantages are there over the legit version? People say it's "enhanced" and superior, but I see few improvements.
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I have 1.02 official one and PK edition and
Pk has --
Translations in events menu
Events menu has no spaces between some event option.
1.02
Spaces between some events
Wait for move's completion command
But that's all i can see in difference.
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I prefer the Postality Knights Edition over the Enterbrain version. PK edition has more features in the actual program, such as the message preview option (if this is in the legal version, please let me know, but I don't remember it). Of course, I do have my complaints.
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P.Knights is free, so nobody really has a right to complain.
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P.Knights is free, so nobody really has a right to complain.
agreed.
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the legal version i have also read is more stable to run
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I had the legal version, but for some reason you need an internet connection to use it (I have rpg maker on my own internetless comp.) its unable to double check your serial online or something retarded. Maybe this is just me... but thats why i use pk.
I was wondering if the two versions are compatible, like can u open pk games in enter brain and vice versa? And when a game is finished can people tell the difference between pk and enterbrains?
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well i know that anything in PK can be opened with enterbrains but I'm not sure about the other way around, Because I'm working on a game that i started with PK
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You can't, that's my one complaint.
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I own the legal version, PK edition, Dyna edition, dubs edition, and the legal Jap version. I like the Legal & Jap the best.
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PK edition has more features in the actual program, such as the message preview option (if this is in the legal version, please let me know, but I don't remember it).
Bull. It is in th legal version, plus what other features are there more in the PK version? Untranslated Japanese comments? Nice Feature!
Seriously, what advantages are there over the legit version? People say it's "enhanced" and superior, but I see few improvements.
Yeah! It wasent called enhanced because it was better, bnut because it was the second translation...
The only thing I do not like in the legal version is the work around for four lines of tekst in the message box!
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PK edition has more features in the actual program, such as the message preview option (if this is in the legal version, please let me know, but I don't remember it).
Bull. It is in th legal version, plus what other features are there more in the PK version? Untranslated Japanese comments? Nice Feature!
Seriously, what advantages are there over the legit version? People say it's "enhanced" and superior, but I see few improvements.
Yeah! It wasent called enhanced because it was better, bnut because it was the second translation...
The only thing I do not like in the legal version is the work around for four lines of tekst in the message box!
This can be fixed by Script(s).
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The only thing I do not like in the legal version is the work around for four lines of tekst in the message box!
This can be fixed by Script(s).
Nope. The only way to fix it is by hacking the editor.
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No you dont have to hack anything, I know of a script that will do this and works. Remember the scripts you make over-right the default setting.
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You don't seem to understand. The 4 lines of code in a meesage WORKS, but you can not ENTER them with the normal Message Command. You have to use BATCH ENTRY. it has NOTHING to do with SCRIPTS but everything to do with the EDITOR. ;8
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Im not explaining it to Newbies there are SCRIPTS that can increase the TEXT/MEESSAGES box with more then four lines. In fact Dubs has one on his site.
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First of all, I am defintly not a newbie, you are here the one that does not understand what I said. If you would just have read my messages properly, you would have known that we where not talking to extend the message box to more then 4 lines. Postality Knights and the legal Japanse version had an option with you could fill the message box up to four lines by default. In the legal English version, the box is like 5 pixels too small (the INPUT box in the ediotr, not ingame) to fit the fourth line. To solve this, one can use the batch entry.
I am quite sure that anyone that participated in that discussion is aware that we could have extended the message box with scripts, but again.. that was not our point.
Never call me newbie again, especially not when you don't even take the time to read what I and these people write.
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Me is right, Orochi.
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I like the Enterbrain version.
The only thing I don't like about it is that some of the windows aren't as large, but there are ways to deal with it.
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I have both PK and Enterbrains. In the first scene of my game something happaend and it started freezing up after thsi one message in PK. the same scene never froze on Enterbrains. I must of re-did that scene 30 times and its still freezes after a message. nothing i did fixed it. I deleated the entire even and made a new one from scratch, it would get buggy and freeze up too. the same even works fine in Enterbrains. but my free-trial has five days left and so im kind of fucked. I was wondering if anyone on here has the offical english version, only patched so that it dosnt run out in 30 days can you tell me where to find it or send me a copy of yours? Is there any rmxp thats better then PK except its free? if so please direct me to it. Thanks - PhoeiX
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You are using a auto-starting event, right? Use an "Erase Event" command at the end and it shouldn't freeze anymore.
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no need anymore, i got keygen for the official version.
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First of all, I am defintly not a newbie, you are here the one that does not understand what I said. If you would just have read my messages properly, you would have known that we where not talking to extend the message box to more then 4 lines. Postality Knights and the legal Japanse version had an option with you could fill the message box up to four lines by default. In the legal English version, the box is like 5 pixels too small (the INPUT box in the ediotr, not ingame) to fit the fourth line. To solve this, one can use the batch entry.
I am quite sure that anyone that participated in that discussion is aware that we could have extended the message box with scripts, but again.. that was not our point.
Never call me newbie again, especially not when you don't even take the time to read what I and these people write.
DO NOT MESS WITH Me tm
I LIKE HIM AND IF YOU HAVE SEEN WHAT HES DONE FOR PEOPLE..
AND !!!! DONT MESS WITH THE DUTCH !
But that's not the point here :p
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just out of question, i use P.Knights but how do you buy the legal version? just get the trail then pay over the internet?
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i have the pk version, but cant someone just give me all of the default scripts that the legal version has, then i replace my scripts with those ones, and the bugs go away?
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enterbrain:
pros:
dunno, i dont have enterbrain
cons:
costs 60 bucks
pk:
pros:
free
free
free
free
free
cons:
random bugs
incompatability with some scripts
incompatibiliy with some games
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i have the pk version, but cant someone just give me all of the default scripts that the legal version has, then i replace my scripts with those ones, and the bugs go away?
Just download the legal version?
~Winged
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yeah but thats only a free trial, id need it for more then 30 days
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Get a torrent program.
http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3560735/Rpg_Maker_XP_1.2A_with_Keygen (http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3560735/Rpg_Maker_XP_1.2A_with_Keygen)
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ok so say i have bitcomet, and i click that link i get rmxp legal version and i dont have to pay???
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I just looked through the default scripts in my RMXP. Full English. But I didnt pay and theres no pop up saying something just after it opens! So I have no clue if I have legal or illegal XD
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well just look at the name or the icon, for rmxp pk the icon is pruple and black for enterbrain its orange with a black dragon. so thats how i can tell the difference.
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WOOT! I got free legal RMXP! XD
The legal is better for all I know. :D
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what the hell!?!?!? howd you get free legal? tell me!
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It's not legal if you got it free..idiot.
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You're wrong, the program IS legal, but pirating it is illegal. You can download the 30 day free trial for free.
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are you calling me an idiot? w/e all my friends do, im a moron cuz i do dumb things but i know better
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If I had to chose between Enterbrain's or PK again, I think I'd choose Enterbrain again. I'm pretty much useless in some areas of the program if I don't have a Help file that is translated. But the Free-ness of PK was very tempting.
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With PK, you can't get into the scripts uploaded in game format. It really ehhhhs me, and I wish there was a way to fix it... besides paying sixty bucks for the actual program. (Don't get me wrong, I'd drop money on RMXP, but just not sixty.)
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Does the keygen works? ???
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Does the keygen works? ???
yes keygens work, the one's that don't usually are computer viruses.
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I didn't use a keygen, you can just aswell download a PsiKey.dll that's already activated. No need to go through the keygen and possibly destroy your comp.
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Interesting question, kids.
I started with postality to learn a bit more of about it, and ended liking it so i bought the original from Enterbrain for 60 bucks.
Thing is, You HAVE to have the original if you're planning on selling your game.
If your game is crap or you're just toying around with RMXP, then get PK and save your bucks.
About the 4 lines text limitation: even if the original version and PK games are incompatible, if you turn on both and copy a ten line txt dialogue from the PK editor and paste it into the Legal version, it works ;D
I fixed my special "hability meditor" event with this trick :D
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where can i get a PsiKey.dll?
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I googled it. Then I replaced the existing ddl with the one I downloaded.
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can you tell me the key words that you used on google?
i can't find it :o
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I think it was just 'keygen rpg maker xp'. But I did a good amount of diggin'.
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Torrent anyone?
http://www.torrentspy.com/torrent/1120768/RPG_Maker_XP_1_02_program_and_Keygen_RMXP
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i need you have a bittorent to get this file... and i have to pay to have the bittorent serial nº :(
so can anyone genarete a new key for me?
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Would it... uhh... I'm not sure about this, but... I could give my dll...? I won't get into trouble, righT?
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Download. ;)
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o_o' *phew* :tpg:
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thx Irock ;D and you too Ferenn ;)
it works :tpg:
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Add [RESOLVED]... :)
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Sorry for the old post and necroviving, but would it be possilbe for you to, I dunno, maybe post the Dyna version, and the Pk version, and maybe your other versions for 'scientific testing and research?'
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I didn't use a keygen, you can just aswell download a PsiKey.dll that's already activated. No need to go through the keygen and possibly destroy your comp.
Even doing that could possibly destroy your comp, it could be encrypted with a virus. Run RPGMaker and boom.
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I have just hacked postality knights edition 2.0 to make it 100% english and made an updater. my PKE hack uses Arial (used a resource editor for that change) for the editor font (no yen symbols), uses RGSS102E.DLL (hex edited the editor exe file and made replaces), uses english version graphics (replaced rtp files), and has updated scripts (replaced all rxdata files with legal version rxdata files). I have even tested it. New projects set the dll file to RGSS102E.DLL as they should, but the interface is still Postality Knights Edition, since I made such a change to the program, I dubbed it RPG Maker 1.02 - Postality Knights Edition 2.1.
I am just looking for a place to upload the updater program. Otherwise sorry for the bump, just wanted to provide an update.
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I have just hacked postality knights edition 2.0 to make it 100% english and made an updater. my PKE hack uses Arial (used a resource editor for that change) for the editor font (no yen symbols), uses RGSS102E.DLL (hex edited the editor exe file and made replaces), uses english version graphics (replaced rtp files), and has updated scripts (replaced all rxdata files with legal version rxdata files). I have even tested it. New projects set the dll file to RGSS102E.DLL as they should, but the interface is still Postality Knights Edition, since I made such a change to the program, I dubbed it RPG Maker 1.02 - Postality Knights Edition 2.1.
I am just looking for a place to upload the updater program. Otherwise sorry for the bump, just wanted to provide an update.
can you put the letter J/j in a message box without the game crashing?
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put "Jj" into a messagebox without crashing in a test program. still needs a strange hack to the project files made by rpg maker xp v1.0.2 to use the same identification as pke replace in the project files: "RMXP 1.02" with "RMXP 1.01" and they will fully function as they do in the enterbrain version. Anything else need testing?
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now events editor and script editor are resizable too!