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Title: This Is A Big Deal
Post by: Holkeye on June 08, 2012, 04:21:52 AM
Everyone needs to read this.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/03/15/american-isps-to-launch-massive-copyright-spying-scheme-on-july-12/
Title: Re: This Is A Big Deal
Post by: Kokowam on June 08, 2012, 04:49:35 AM
I guess we need to download as much as we can until then? It's actually kinda freaky, though, but at the same time it feels like one of those "the world is coming to an end" kind of thing except it's more believable and made to be a real threat in that way.
Title: Re: This Is A Big Deal
Post by: SirJackRex on June 08, 2012, 05:45:38 AM
This is legal?
Title: Re: This Is A Big Deal
Post by: TDS on June 08, 2012, 07:19:29 AM
Well, once the porncalypse hits. Anyone with a hard drive full of porn will be able to trade for anything.
Title: Re: This Is A Big Deal
Post by: Sophist on June 08, 2012, 09:07:12 AM
Thank god for locally owned ISPs
Title: Re: This Is A Big Deal
Post by: firerain on June 08, 2012, 10:45:39 AM
sounds pretty sensationalist

and this is coming from me
Title: Re: This Is A Big Deal
Post by: IAMFORTE on June 08, 2012, 02:57:34 PM
This is ridiculous >.<
Title: Re: This Is A Big Deal
Post by: Gracie on June 08, 2012, 03:13:59 PM
Quote from: Firerain on June 08, 2012, 10:45:39 AM
sounds pretty sensationalist

and this is coming from me

Why does that genuinely reassure me?
Title: Re: This Is A Big Deal
Post by: Holkeye on June 08, 2012, 04:44:54 PM
Because none of you are from America.
Title: Re: This Is A Big Deal
Post by: firerain on June 08, 2012, 07:14:23 PM
as fucking if they don't already spy on your internet activity anyway. this article is just full of buzz words and sensationalist journalism to stir up the masses.
Title: Re: This Is A Big Deal
Post by: SirJackRex on June 08, 2012, 07:31:41 PM
QuoteLast night in Computer and Technology forum, workers reported loud and unidentifiable noises emanating from a link posted by Kevin Holkeye. Many workers rallied against the link when it was discovered to be about Internet censorship.

"It was sensationalist ****," said Kaden Lac. "They're a bunch of complacent *****, too. How they're angered over this when they sit idly by about everything else that goes on in America is dumbfounding, eh."

Gracie Stereotypical was reportedly not responsible for this contention, according to other workers.
Title: Re: This Is A Big Deal
Post by: CartoonFan on June 08, 2012, 08:16:48 PM
This is the kind of thing I was concerned about in this thread (http://rmrk.net/index.php/topic,46214.0.html). I'd heard about this upcoming measure before. Now do you see why it's important to find work-arounds while we still can?
Title: Re: This Is A Big Deal
Post by: Holkeye on June 08, 2012, 08:28:30 PM
The language isn't important, firerain. Its the story that's being relayed. I don't know if its true, but if it is, its a big deal.
Title: Re: This Is A Big Deal
Post by: Kokowam on June 08, 2012, 08:48:08 PM
Quote from: Firerain on June 08, 2012, 07:14:23 PM
as fucking if they don't already spy on your internet activity anyway. this article is just full of buzz words and sensationalist journalism to stir up the masses.
But this means they'll start doing things about it, though.
Title: Re: This Is A Big Deal
Post by: firerain on June 09, 2012, 04:37:12 AM
they already do. a friend of mine had his internet shut off by his ISP for 2 weeks because they found "suspicious" activity
Title: Re: This Is A Big Deal
Post by: Malson on June 09, 2012, 06:17:37 AM
Quote from: Firerain on June 09, 2012, 04:37:12 AM
they already do. a friend of mine had his internet shut off by his ISP for 2 weeks because they found "suspicious" activity

This happened to my brother as well, though they said it was because of "excessive bandwidth usage." And this was at a time when he was pirating pretty heavily, and after he stopped, they hadn't stopped shutting the internet off.

We changed ISPs regardless, but it wasn't any secret to me why they did it.
Title: Re: This Is A Big Deal
Post by: Gracie on June 09, 2012, 06:31:52 AM
I downloaded a bunch of stuff at uni. IT guys found out and started making requests :) I stopped, but still, proved the it staff here rock.
Title: Re: This Is A Big Deal
Post by: Lethrface on June 09, 2012, 06:51:53 AM
lol I don't know one IT guy who has paid for anything more than monthly antivirus protection lol. 

Yep.  This is a pretty big deal, regardless of wording.  If the situation is really going on then people NEED to get a fire lit under peoples asses.  It may be a slight bias but the information remains the truth as long as what they are proposing is accurate.  Name one media outlet that doesn't have bias in their articles. 
Title: Re: This Is A Big Deal
Post by: Link on June 11, 2012, 09:20:03 PM
Quote from: Animefan on June 08, 2012, 08:16:48 PM
This is the kind of thing I was concerned about in this thread (http://rmrk.net/index.php/topic,46214.0.html). I'd heard about this upcoming measure before. Now do you see why it's important to find work-arounds while we still can?

You should of linked that thread you made, about how if the internet was censored, you would take hostages to fight the man.

I wish i could find that thread, it was great.

Also waiting for the UK/Europe version to be announced, after SoPA and the europe ActA seems like this will come here soon under a new name.
Title: Re: This Is A Big Deal
Post by: Holkeye on June 12, 2012, 02:11:56 AM
Oh yeah, haha. Animefan with a replica sword against the army. That was classic.
Title: Re: This Is A Big Deal
Post by: SirJackRex on June 12, 2012, 03:41:01 AM
So would these companies be spying on your traffic? I mean, how would they know otherwise, assuming this isn't just p2p traffic they'll be monitoring.

So like...couldn't hosts rename files or use other obfuscation methods to mask the real file? (Assuming that they'll not be downloading any random file.)
Title: Re: This Is A Big Deal
Post by: Acolyte on June 12, 2012, 03:54:19 AM
Isn't that a violation of privacy laws?
Title: Re: This Is A Big Deal
Post by: Lethrface on June 12, 2012, 05:04:50 AM
Quote from: Miles Edgeworth on June 12, 2012, 03:54:19 AM
Isn't that a violation of privacy laws?
yup and that is why its a big deal
Title: Re: This Is A Big Deal
Post by: firerain on June 12, 2012, 06:40:17 AM
implying the american government and other governments (including mine) don't already violate our privacy.
Title: Re: This Is A Big Deal
Post by: Lethrface on June 12, 2012, 06:46:08 AM
Quote from: Firerain on June 12, 2012, 06:40:17 AM
implying the american government and other governments (including mine) don't already violate our privacy.

Nobody is implying anything like that.  We shouldn't have to say it for anyone to get the hint.  The point is it shouldn't be legal for them to do it.
Title: Re: This Is A Big Deal
Post by: jomarcenter on June 13, 2012, 10:56:22 AM
this break the privacy law... a lot of protest and boycott if this is real..
but in some other country may/may not implement the law... and also on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_in_the_Philippines i could become an isp if i wanted thank to Public Telecommunications Act of the Philippines which enable us to create an internet service provider, offer internet to people and many more on the internet... and there also a law here that prevent isp from watching it's costumers... so Philippines isp didn't implemented this kind of system and they will not because user can cancel their service to them and lose money... but i hope it will not... since it my privacy..
Title: Re: This Is A Big Deal
Post by: Sophist on June 13, 2012, 10:09:15 PM
nobody cares about your country oh my god
Title: Re: This Is A Big Deal
Post by: Kokowam on August 03, 2012, 01:44:18 AM
I just wanted to bump this and say the date's passed and ask if anyone has seen hide or hair of this.
Title: Re: This Is A Big Deal
Post by: Acolyte on August 03, 2012, 02:59:41 AM
No problems here.
Title: Re: This Is A Big Deal
Post by: SirJackRex on August 03, 2012, 04:28:06 AM
Apparently, according to some internet guy that contacted the organization or read the terms, after the six (?) warnings they remove you from the monitoring system because this isn't an act of policing it's an act of educating. That's curious.

Also I read an article a couple weeks back saying most ISPs had not rolled out their monitoring system yet. I haven't  done anything of interest lately, but no problems on my end.
Title: Re: This Is A Big Deal
Post by: Kokowam on November 03, 2012, 07:02:13 PM
Bump because I read somewhere recently they were really starting on this. Anyone get warnings/slower internet speeds or anything? To be honest, I don't think anybody really cares in my household because most people aren't in our house that much, but still. JW
Title: Re: This Is A Big Deal
Post by: Holkeye on November 03, 2012, 07:26:12 PM
My friend got door knocked by the feds. I don't know what happened since, but apparently basic knowledge of computers and antimalware can keep them away.