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Unreal Engine 4 already looks like shit.
Holy fuck
if anyone can make an engine that look like 100% real life. that person will be instant LEGENDARY GAME DEVELOPER IN THE UNIVERSE...
This is Final Fantasy? It ain't bad.
Square has to do a whole lot more than make a pretty game to get me back. FFXIII was a pretty game, too. I'm not falling for it again.
Reiterating most of my posts about e3, DAYUM!
Woohoo? It probably took them months just to show that off, big deal. What games can it make?
I hope all of you understand that other companies than Square are going to be using this engine to make games. It's a tool and a damn good one at that considering the physics and fantastic aesthetics I can hardly imagine as being rendered in real time. Final Fantasy was just used as a setting/theme for the tech demo although FFXIII Versus is apparently being delayed to run on it.
You're a tool and a damn good one at that.
Quote from: DrSword on June 06, 2012, 07:20:39 PM
I hope all of you understand that other companies than Square are going to be using this engine to make games. It's a tool and a damn good one at that considering the physics and fantastic aesthetics I can hardly imagine as being rendered in real time. Final Fantasy was just used as a setting/theme for the tech demo although FFXIII Versus is apparently being delayed to run on it.
Wow, you don't say. You mean this is like the Unreal Engine except everyone can use it?
I hope you understand that this is the result of high-end computers and not a next gen dev kit.
Not going to deny it looks amazing and I'd play it. But it's a tech demo running on bleeding-edge systems. The demo was also co-developed by Square's CG studio. Crytek's next engine and UE4 will likely look just as good as non-playable tech demos.
It remains to be seen whether anybody uses this engine.
Quote from: Holkeye on June 06, 2012, 07:24:07 PM
You're a tool and a damn good one at that.
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Quote from: Esmeralda on June 06, 2012, 07:52:10 PM
Quote from: DrSword on June 06, 2012, 07:20:39 PM
I hope all of you understand that other companies than Square are going to be using this engine to make games. It's a tool and a damn good one at that considering the physics and fantastic aesthetics I can hardly imagine as being rendered in real time. Final Fantasy was just used as a setting/theme for the tech demo although FFXIII Versus is apparently being delayed to run on it.
Wow, you don't say. You mean this is like the Unreal Engine except everyone can use it?
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Quote from: SirJackRex on June 06, 2012, 08:34:00 PM
I hope you understand that this is the result of high-end computers and not a next gen dev kit.
Not going to deny it looks amazing and I'd play it. But it's a tech demo running on bleeding-edge systems. The demo was also co-developed by Square's CG studio. Crytek's next engine and UE4 will likely look just as good as non-playable tech demos.
Everything at E3 ran on high end computers. Obviously this isn't a direct example of what everything is going to look like coming out of this, but it does what a tech demo aims to do by showing off the
potential. This is also an engine being developed for next gen games so how is it not a next gen dev kit?
Quote from: SirJackRex on June 06, 2012, 08:34:00 PM
I hope you understand that this is the result of high-end computers and not a next gen dev kit.
Not going to deny it looks amazing and I'd play it. But it's a tech demo running on bleeding-edge systems. The demo was also co-developed by Square's CG studio. Crytek's next engine and UE4 will likely look just as good as non-playable tech demos.
> implying nobody else has the technology to do what Crytek and Epic are doing.
Also I'd like to point out that I'm well aware that UE4 is capable of producing results like this and will be just as good (if not better.) Just saying with everything out so far this is the most impressive.
Tech demo? Or CG movie?
It's rendered in real time, so tech demo.
I also just realized how absolutely terrible the bug things look compared to everything else.
At least the music was pretty.
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jk its pretty awesome
Remake Final Fantasy VII and IX in it :)
My mind would be straight blown the fuck up if they remade VII and IX in this engine. I'm for it.
Remake VI in it.
Square doesn't want anything to do with good games anymore. They'd rather churn out FF XIII-3, Crystal Chronicle games, and half-assed MMOs.
But if they do remake something, they'll probably remake FF I for the thousandth time.
Yeah, Mistwalker is the real Square anyway.
Crystal Chronicles is good :mad:
You don't even know :mad:
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Quote from: Holkeye on June 07, 2012, 09:18:18 PM
Remake VI in it.
We can have particle effects on our pixels!
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Oh great, now Dane Cook is stealing material from me.
Quote from: DrSword on June 07, 2012, 10:31:11 PM
Crystal Chronicles is good :mad:
I liked crystal chronicles more than the main final fantasy games
GET HER
Quote from: HaloOfTheSun on June 07, 2012, 09:20:31 PM
Square doesn't want anything to do with good games anymore. They'd rather churn out FF XIII-3, Crystal Chronicle games, and half-assed MMOs.
But if they do remake something, they'll probably remake FF I for the thousandth time.
Final Fantasy VI isn't very good, though.
Also remaking any Final Fantasy is a terrible idea.
I would totally agree with you if opinions were facts.
Chewey doesn't really have opinions of his own. He just disagrees with whatever people say to try and get a reaction.
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Quote from: DrSword on June 07, 2012, 10:31:11 PM
Crystal Chronicles is good :mad:
I liked crystal chronicles more than the main final fantasy games
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I really love a few of the older final fantasy games, but none came close to exceeding the fun I had with CC and three friends. Even single-player it's quite the fun hack and slash.
Nah, FF6 ain't great. FF4 and 5 are definitely better and I don't even like them a whole lot. The SNES Dragon Quests are a ton better than any of the SNES Final Fantasies.
Chrono Trigger isn't that good either. Neither is Earthbound.
Just ask me if you want some facts on SNES JRPGs, I'm happy to share.
Were you even alive when the SNES came out?
People need to stop embellishing FF6 already jesus christ
Quote from: Holkeye on June 08, 2012, 07:25:06 AM
Were you even alive when the SNES came out?
I was born several months before it released in Australia. A few months after it released in the US. As a result, I ain't got none them nostalgia goggles.
I don't think you can embellish an object, but who is doing that anyway? I just said its my favorite one, and I'd like a remake of it.
Quote from: chewey on June 08, 2012, 07:27:56 AM
I was born several months before it released in Australia. A few months after it released in the US. As a result, I ain't got none them nostalgia goggles.
This is true, but it also has a reverse effect, in that FFVI was the biggest RPG ever created when it came out, as was Chrono Trigger after it. To play it years later after other stuff is to lose that aspect. Its like trying to go back to a PS1 game, or even some PS2 games today for me.
Except I think Dragon Quest 4, 5 and 6 are fantastic and I only played them last year. I like a lot of SNES games.
Did you play the SNES versions, or the DS remakes? I'm not disagreeing with you, because I like classic stuff too, just confused as to what it is you actually enjoy in games.
DS version of 4 and 5 and SNES/DS version of 6. I don't think it matters really, since playing the DS version of Chrono Trigger didn't suddenly make it appealing to me. I did force myself through the really shitty 2300 A.D. stuff when I last played it, but it still never really picked up in the hours I played after that.
Sure it matters, the Dragon Quest remakes are pretty different. I mean, DQ 4 was an NES game, so there's that. And the interface was way streamlined. I guess 6 was probably the closest of the three, but ArtePiazza's engine for the DS ones was really well done. Whereas Chrono Trigger was more revamped port than DQ's remakes. But yes, the DS versions are wonderful, I agree. I actually like those ones more than I liked DQ9, even though DQ9 is a great game on its own merits. The only thing about DQ games that I don't like is the grind, which I know applies to most Jrpgs, but DQ is so rooted in tradition that there can be an awful lot of grinding at times.
I played the SNES version of DQ6 just fine. This was before they had released the DS port and I had just finished 5 (which is probably my second favourite JRPG, after Mother 3). I played FF4 and 6 on the PSX originally, too. I liked 4 and thought 6 was terrible. I don't think the problem is that I'm incapable of enjoying old games.
I don't think the interface was streamlined that much, really. DQ6 played mostly the same on SNES as it did on DS, anyway. The biggest difference is just the graphics, I'd say. The games look pretty sharp on the DS and pretty lousy on the SNES.
I really liked Dragon Quest 9, but I played it all the way through with Rasse. If I had played it alone, it probably wouldn't have been very good.
There was a lot more streamlining than you might think. I mean, the old DQ games didn't even have an interact button. You had to go into a menu and choose 'talk'. Also, everything was renamed in the now iconic 'pun' style that DQ is known for. Of the DS Dragon Quests, 4 is my favorite. I love how the DQ games always start out by giving you these little quests that seemingly don't intersect, but then they always start to about halfway through. They're almost like books of short stories that happen to have an overarching plot.
But FF6 just had so much there. The world was the most unique and fully realized of the FF games up to that point. Moment to moment, the story and world was just better than the rest. It did use a lame way of making itself longer, by having you reclaim all of the characters again, but it was so open. It was almost the inverse of the Dragon Quest trope, where instead of starting you out with small stories, FFVI had the game's second half do that. You didn't even have to get any of them back except for 4 of them, which I actually did a long time ago. Maybe a contrivance, but it fleshed out the characters' backstories. It was also so open to powerleveling, which may be weak for some people, but I liked that every character could learn every spell, and you could basically form the party that you wanted to have.
FFIV was good, but I'm so sick of it. I think I've played it at least 20 times on all kinds of platforms. V was really hard for me to get into. I liked the job system, but the story bored me, and it was very anti-climactic. The only other thing I remember enjoying was that the last dungeon had like 12 bosses in it.
There's an SNES remake of Dragon Quest III that uses the "engine" from the SNES DQVI that you should check out. A lot of people consider DQIII to be the best, and I don't really agree, but it is a great remake.
I don't really like DQ1-3 or 7. It's incredible how slowly 7 starts.
I've played a fair way into FF6 and it's never really grabbed me. Like I did with CT, I ended up forcing myself to play FF6 well after I had grown bored of it.
Anyway, it isn't like I was trying to troll you. I was just questioning what Halo said, in the way I often do.
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Quote from: DrSword on June 07, 2012, 10:31:11 PM
Crystal Chronicles is good :mad:
I liked crystal chronicles more than the main final fantasy games
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I really love a few of the older final fantasy games, but none came close to exceeding the fun I had with CC and three friends. Even single-player it's quite the fun hack and slash.
Its a much more preferable style of gameplay to menu based combat.
Also I agree, 4 player CC is the shit!
Except for the person who has to carry the chalice.
Quote from: Holkeye on June 08, 2012, 04:46:11 PM
Except for the person who has to carry the chalice.
"Its my house, my game, so I get the black controller, you get the shitty purple on that doesn't work right and you have to carry the chalice".
Lol :D I think we always took turns, or whenever we'd play at my friend's house his little brother would have to carry it.
I played the majority of my game time single-player, though. Packed so many hours into it. I'm thinking of buying a second copy just because I can't find my original in storage (probably packed as a buffer in some random box :( ).
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Quote from: chewey on June 08, 2012, 07:27:56 AM
I was born several months before it released in Australia. A few months after it released in the US. As a result, I ain't got none them nostalgia goggles.
This is true, but it also has a reverse effect, in that FFVI was the biggest RPG ever created when it came out, as was Chrono Trigger after it. To play it years later after other stuff is to lose that aspect. Its like trying to go back to a PS1 game, or even some PS2 games today for me.
The only PS1 games I find myself going back to, from time to time, is FFIX, Legend of Dragoon and Chrono Cross. Those are the only PS1 games that really hold up well for me. I haven't even touched a PS2 game in forever - except for Disgaea, because I love it.