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RMRK General => General Chat => Topic started by: tSwitch on December 17, 2008, 02:35:17 PM

Title: Firefox vs Opera
Post by: tSwitch on December 17, 2008, 02:35:17 PM
Which one is really the best?

Firefox has been shown to be slower and less secure than Opera, as well as not passing Acid2 or Acid3 web compliance tests.
Also a good portion of Firefox's addons are available as default features in Opera, such as the speed dial.

I switched from Opera to Firefox when O9.5 came out because I couldn't get AOL to work with it, but I think that's because I didn't enable activeX or something, lol.

anyway, there's a lot of false information out there, and I'm looking for the pure facts.
Which browser really is better, from a purely objective standpoint?
Title: Re: Firefox vs Opera
Post by: Roph on December 17, 2008, 03:18:26 PM
ActiveX is exclusive to internet explorer.

The acid tests are more e-penis than anything else, it's like criticising a mirror because it doesn't reflect 100% of the light that hits it. Not to mention, that safari and opera specifically design their browsers not to actually support the standards (and errors) contained in the acid tests, but rather to detect the acid tests themselves and display them "correctly".

Firefox 3 starts slower than opera 9.5 does on my computer, but once they're both up I don't notice any performance difference significant enough to care, which means the only last argument is extensions, and this is exactly why I love firefox. If there's something you want (or don't want), chances are it's possible and that somebody has already made an extension or explained how to accomplish it.

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Title: Re: Firefox vs Opera
Post by: tSwitch on December 17, 2008, 03:32:34 PM
all I've noticed is that Opera manages to use less RAM on my computer than Firefox does, when the same tabs are open.

and what about the security issue?
Title: Re: Firefox vs Opera
Post by: ShadowOD on December 17, 2008, 07:34:12 PM
I find that Opera keeps crashing! =/

Opera seems more safter tbh, coz when I use Firefox I end up finding loads of spyware.

I use Firefox coz of the addons and its fast the IE anyways and more stable, don'c crash.
Title: Re: Firefox vs Opera
Post by: tSwitch on December 17, 2008, 07:43:07 PM
posting from Opera.
it uses so much less RAM than firefox does, even with multiple tabs open and leaving it running for a while.
Title: Re: Firefox vs Opera
Post by: Irock on December 17, 2008, 07:43:39 PM
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I'm not sure which is technically more secure, but if you're not a total moron, you don't have to worry about security. Firefox is secure, which is all that really matters, unless you're a middle aged man that doesn't know the difference between a png and an exe.

Also, I doubt you really need to nitpick so much about RAM, unless you only have 256 MBs of it, or if you're running tons of applications at once, which I doubt you are.
Title: Re: Firefox vs Opera
Post by: Holkeye on December 17, 2008, 09:17:05 PM
If running a browser is slowing your computer down, the browser is not the issue.
Title: Re: Firefox vs Opera
Post by: :) on December 17, 2008, 09:25:35 PM
Quote from: Holk on December 17, 2008, 09:17:05 PM
If running a browser is slowing your computer down, the browser is not the issue.

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Title: Re: Firefox vs Opera
Post by: tSwitch on December 17, 2008, 09:30:07 PM
Quote from: Holk on December 17, 2008, 09:17:05 PM
If running a browser is slowing your computer down, the browser is not the issue.

not saying the browser was slowing my computer down, but the extra resources for when I have a wiki up and a game going at once are quite useful.