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Title: Help on getting a New Computer . . .
Post by: Karo Rushe on August 01, 2008, 03:18:10 AM
So, if anyone has read this Thread: http://rmrk.net/index.php/topic,28648.0.html

You should know why I ask, but if your that lazy . . . here's what happened.

My Laptop crashed on me with a Blue Screen of Death & turns herself off, the Monitor won't pick her up & she turns on but cannot see a D*mn thing & turns herself off after 3 Minutes.

Currently using My mother's computer. I've thought of saving up my Allowance money to get a new Computer, not a laptop. But, I don't know what computer. Just need something that is Cheap, but that isn't Cr*p either, can last about, say a Whole Year Turned On, with a lot of Ram & Memory, a decent Video Card for games := & well, that looks decent too.


Any thought or help . . . appreciated, & No Apple, my father won't let me buy one :/
Title: Re: Help on getting a New Computer . . .
Post by: :) on August 01, 2008, 03:22:41 AM
barebone kits:

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/category/category_tlc.asp?CatId=31&name=Barebone-Kits
http://www.newegg.com/Store/Category.aspx?Category=3&name=Barebone-Mini-Computers

Desktops:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/Category/category_tlcNEW.asp?CatId=6
http://www.newegg.com/Store/SubCategory.aspx?SubCategory=10&name=Desktop-PCs

should find some very nice prices there.
Title: Re: Help on getting a New Computer . . .
Post by: Roph on August 01, 2008, 03:58:13 AM
Gimme a budget =)
Title: Re: Help on getting a New Computer . . .
Post by: Karo Rushe on August 01, 2008, 04:10:11 AM
$155.00 Each Month.

:0 Saving up $800.00 if I can.
Title: Re: Help on getting a New Computer . . .
Post by: Sophist on August 01, 2008, 04:11:30 AM
Quote from: Maria Traydor on August 01, 2008, 03:18:10 AM
Any thought or help . . . appreciated, & No Apple, my father won't let me buy one :/

Your father is a smart guy.

Anyway, get a barebones kit if you are willing to put your computer together. It's not hard but alot of it is knowing what you are doing. Barebones kits are pretty much a whole computer, cheaper yet not put together. Other than that I can't recommend anything lol, I only keep up with recent computer parts.
Title: Re: Help on getting a New Computer . . .
Post by: Roph on August 01, 2008, 04:26:37 AM
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg182.imageshack.us%2Fimg182%2F6854%2F500buxne8.th.png&hash=1fcbb3cbe6ce64c460bcbd5779e3d29aea7a4244) (http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/6854/500buxne8.png)

Hard drive:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136218 - meh, any old will do. These specific 640Gb ones use the newer 320GB platters instead of 250GB ones, meaning it's quieter and more efficient =)

Graphics Card:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102747 - Nvidia has been kicking ATI's ass for years, but they've made a spectacular comeback and currently the 4850 is the best card out there for the price. It'll rape earlier 8800GTs.

PSU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171028 - Don't skimp on the PSU ever.

RAM:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820141300 - Any old RAM is ok for what you will be doing =)

CPU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116052 - Budget one, we'll get to this later

Motherboard:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128337 - bog standard, priced cheaper now that the newer P45 chipset is out

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Even with everything at stock, you'll have a very speedy machine. The weak spot is the CPU, but this is why we got the higher end motherboard. The e2xxx series CPUs aren't in fact pentiums as the name implies, but artificially slowed down run of the mill core2s. They are identical to their double, even triple priced big brothers, except for less cache. The reason for the e2180 specifically is its 9x multiplier, and the reason for the higher motherboard is that it can support up to 1333Mhz, even 1600 Mhz if you're willing to push it on the FSB. The e2180 uses an 800Mhz FSB at stock, so with this board we have plenty of headroom.

the e2xxxs are famous for being the biggest overclocking CPUs available out there (http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/pentium-dual-core,1683-10.html), with more aggresive cooling you can literally double the speed, but with what you get (you'll get a standard heatsink and fan with the CPU) you can push it from 2Ghz to 3Ghz pretty easily just by increasing the FSB in the BIOS. If you have absolutely no idea what I'm talking about, get a nerd to do it for you, it's not that hard.

This ~$500 computer when put together and setup will beat the shit out of Nouman & Anski's money flushing computers in pretty much every game out there  :lol:

Title: Re: Help on getting a New Computer . . .
Post by: :) on August 01, 2008, 04:46:34 AM
Quote from: Roph on August 01, 2008, 04:26:37 AM
This ~$500 computer when put together and setup will beat the shit out of Nouman & Anski's money flushing computers in pretty much every game out there  :lol:

care to explain how?

the video card only I suppose?
Title: Re: Help on getting a New Computer . . .
Post by: Karo Rushe on August 01, 2008, 05:00:26 AM
:X Other than wanting to see the Explanation of Rolph to Nouman's question, Now what I have left is to know what Monitor & whether to get Vista or stick with XP, since I don't know how Linux works D:
Title: Re: Help on getting a New Computer . . .
Post by: :) on August 01, 2008, 05:02:43 AM
Quote from: Maria Traydor on August 01, 2008, 05:00:26 AM
Now what I have left is to know what Monitor & whether to get Vista or stick with XP, since I don't know how Linux works D:

Quote from: Roph on every operating system related topic (i luv you <3 )xp
Title: Re: Help on getting a New Computer . . .
Post by: mistert on August 02, 2008, 12:47:37 PM
Try mounting the laptop hard drive in a usb enclosure for a data recovery.
Most of the time when a hd crashes and no computer will take it a usb hd enclosure will.
Also your video card on that laptop sounds gone as perhaps is the hd.
Maybe a cheap hd and vid card on the laptop with a new a computer? :X

At least attempt a data recovery perhaps.
Usb enclosures for hds are cheap because they are just usb shells you can buy based on what type the
hd was on your old laptop.
I would do that just because lost files and work is the suck.
The fact it starts at all and stays on that period of the time means it passes the initial startup (POST) and is perhaps fixable.
Title: Re: Help on getting a New Computer . . .
Post by: ahref on August 03, 2008, 06:30:21 PM
roph :Dyou can do the same for my next computer when i buy it and i will mail you cake.
Title: Re: Help on getting a New Computer . . .
Post by: monkofevil on August 04, 2008, 03:11:52 AM
Blu Screen of Death, then the monitor crashed. Hmm... Try busting out the tutorials here
http://lifehacker.com/software/hardware-installation/how-to-replace-a-laptop-lcd-238849.php (http://lifehacker.com/software/hardware-installation/how-to-replace-a-laptop-lcd-238849.php)

Or, scrap the screen completely, open it up, see if there's no hardware failure, try booting into Ubuntu with a live cd. Or try repairing your windows install. (Get a windows disk)
If you can get it to stay on, use it with a desktop monitor.
And a usb maus and keiboard.
Good luck!
If you still need help, you can PM me?
PS. Try this, if the laptop works that is...
http://lifehacker.com/399215/build-a-headless-laptop-system (http://lifehacker.com/399215/build-a-headless-laptop-system)