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Title: Too cliche?
Post by: Claire the Fruitcake on April 12, 2008, 07:09:06 PM
Hello all~

The first game I ever made with RMXP, was a game called "Jewel Legend: The Crystal of Evanglon". I went over it again earlier today, and renamed it "Jewel Legend: Myth of Evania". I told my friend, and she said it was "too cliche". I was kinda disappointed. Please tell me what you guys think, as game makers, and players as well.

Thank you~! <3
Title: Re: Too cliche?
Post by: :) on April 12, 2008, 07:09:59 PM
is it about collecting Jewels? :)
Title: Re: Too cliche?
Post by: Claire the Fruitcake on April 12, 2008, 07:12:40 PM
Lolz, no. That would be like..


"JEWEL PACMAN :DDD"


Which I've seen before.. -shudder-. No, it's a fantasy RPG. A kind of first in a saga. It involves only a few characters, and it's not very long. It was my first ever game, after all~
Title: Re: Too cliche?
Post by: SexualBubblegumX on April 12, 2008, 07:21:50 PM
Well I think he meant is there a Jewel that's important to the plot?
Title: Re: Too cliche?
Post by: Claire the Fruitcake on April 12, 2008, 07:25:07 PM
Quote from: SexualBubblegumX on April 12, 2008, 07:21:50 PM
Well I think he meant is there a Jewel that's important to the plot?

Ahhh! I see. Yes, there is. The Crystal of Evania. It's supposed to be the most powerful thing in the universe. Note the 'supposed to be'. ;D Basically.. it's not all it appears to be.

Oh, btw, I LOVE your sig. It made my day. <3
Title: Re: Too cliche?
Post by: Irock on April 12, 2008, 07:27:20 PM
A jewel being important, that's the cliche part. :o
Title: Re: Too cliche?
Post by: Claire the Fruitcake on April 12, 2008, 07:29:23 PM
Oh, well. XD It's not really a serious game. I'm just working on it, since it has a place in my heart. <3~ I do have lots of other projects to work on - mainly, a Sailor Moon one. XD
Title: Re: Too cliche?
Post by: SexualBubblegumX on April 12, 2008, 07:36:12 PM
Well I wouldn't say it's Cliche because you fixed any cliche value by being like 'Oh you think it's the most powerfull thing in the universe, Guess what it's not!' Addign a twist like that almost always fixes cliche's.

Also thank you on the sig, it took me a while to make because the gif maker I have wasn't working at first so I had to remake that a few times.

Title: Re: Too cliche?
Post by: Claire the Fruitcake on April 12, 2008, 07:41:14 PM
Quote from: SexualBubblegumX on April 12, 2008, 07:36:12 PM
Well I wouldn't say it's Cliche because you fixed any cliche value by being like 'Oh you think it's the most powerfull thing in the universe, Guess what it's not!' Addign a twist like that almost always fixes cliche's.

Also thank you on the sig, it took me a while to make because the gif maker I have wasn't working at first so I had to remake that a few times.



<3~ Thank you very much. JL is my little RMXP baby. I always end up working on it, no matter what.

And, where did you find the anime image? It seems really familiar.. o_o
Title: Re: Too cliche?
Post by: garygill on April 12, 2008, 08:49:25 PM
It was drawn by an Australian web comic artist.  That particular picture is in his DeviantArt gallery.

This is his DA:

http://lowroad75.deviantart.com/
Title: Re: Too cliche?
Post by: SexualBubblegumX on April 12, 2008, 08:52:54 PM
/\ As Garygill said. Along with myself alot of people like lowraod75's work.

And yes I kinda ganked the pic from him, but plz no snitching!
Title: Re: Too cliche?
Post by: Claire the Fruitcake on April 12, 2008, 08:55:42 PM
Nyuu-haha! Does that mean I havez blackmail material?
Title: Re: Too cliche?
Post by: SexualBubblegumX on April 12, 2008, 09:00:39 PM
>.>
<.<

I don't have anything you could gain thru blackmail.  Except maybe that picture of me with that hat...

but technically, I think threatening to tell LowRoad75 I ganked a picture and used it as my forum Siggy is sufficent for blackmail.
Title: Re: Too cliche?
Post by: Claire the Fruitcake on April 12, 2008, 09:24:58 PM
Dude, I could blackmail sight from a blind man. It's a special skill of mine. XD
Title: Re: Too cliche?
Post by: SexualBubblegumX on April 12, 2008, 09:27:59 PM
So considerign we've agreed you do have blackmail materail on me, what are your demands? Because I'm so not dumb enough to try and weasel out of this.
Title: Re: Too cliche?
Post by: Claire the Fruitcake on April 13, 2008, 10:21:53 AM
Internet cookie, and a free laptop will do nicely.
Title: Re: Too cliche?
Post by: SexualBubblegumX on April 13, 2008, 09:49:09 PM
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.creativetheatre.org%2Fimages%2Fcookie.jpg&hash=908de2ed54569a9e766aa32b9f7151ef44df9f27)

Now that Laptop might take a while. Because I'm broke.
Title: Re: Too cliche?
Post by: Sabre_of_Pain on April 14, 2008, 04:10:57 AM
Quote from: SexualBubblegumXWell I wouldn't say it's Cliche because you fixed any cliche value by being like 'Oh you think it's the most powerfull thing in the universe, Guess what it's not!' Addign a twist like that almost always fixes cliche's.
*shudder* i just had a flashback to the 1st season of digimon

OH SHIT A POWERFUL ENEMY! DIGIVOLVE OH SHIT AN EVEN MORE POWERFUL ENEMY DIGIVOLVE AGAIN! OH SHIT ANOTHER EVEN MORE POWERFUL ENEMY WARP DIGIVOLVE OH SHIT YET ANOTHER EVEN MORE POWERFUL ENEMY MEGA WARP DIGIVOLVE OH SHIT ANOTHER ENEMY THATS EVEN MORE POWERFUL THAN ALL THOSE OTHER ONES MERGE MEGA WARP DIGIVOLVE OH SHIT ITS THE MOST POWERFUL DIGIMON POSSIBLE ULTRA MERGE MEGA WARP DIGIVOLVE

i shit you not that is actually the whole storyline

Quote from: Claire-the-Fruitcake
Lolz, no. That would be like..


"JEWEL PACMAN :DDD"


Which I've seen before.. -shudder-

eww i played that game it was called like picmon or something like that

as for cliche well jewels have always been seen in games, legends, and stories as sources of magic power and energy (see diablo 2) so if you have a game based around jewels no matter what you do its already been done... hundreds of times however SBG has a point if you have a twist its not quite as cliche either way though i've always loved games with lots of magic jewels in them ("let me show you my magic jewels baby" rofl) in my opinion just because something is cliche doesn't make it bad then again thats coming from someone whos favorite form of comedy is(are?) puns
Title: Re: Too cliche?
Post by: Karo Rushe on April 14, 2008, 04:47:57 AM
The Cliche thing is the Jewel being the "Most Powerful Artifact in the Universe" is sorta overly used =/

To Make it like either a Battery of some Super Weapon, a Wish Maker, Fenomenal Cosmic Powers, The Holder of life . . . etc, you'd need to come up with something to make it stand out, or more likely, unexpected

[spoiler=Example]Let us say, the Crystal can take Human Form, and sorta becomes some humanoid or something, alive, but cannot use all it's "Universal powers" due that stones can't have memories of what they were. So, It won't even know he/she is the Jewel, until like, at the bitter end or half of the story.[/spoiler]

That is just an example. =<
Title: Re: Too cliche?
Post by: Claire the Fruitcake on April 14, 2008, 09:26:03 AM
Quote from: Caro Ru Lushe on April 14, 2008, 04:47:57 AM
The Cliche thing is the Jewel being the "Most Powerful Artifact in the Universe" is sorta overly used =/

To Make it like either a Battery of some Super Weapon, a Wish Maker, Fenomenal Cosmic Powers, The Holder of life . . . etc, you'd need to come up with something to make it stand out, or more likely, unexpected

[spoiler=Example]Let us say, the Crystal can take Human Form, and sorta becomes some humanoid or something, alive, but cannot use all it's "Universal powers" due that stones can't have memories of what they were. So, It won't even know he/she is the Jewel, until like, at the bitter end or half of the story.[/spoiler]

That is just an example. =<


...


:< -snivvel sob-

YOU RUINED THE ENDING D:
Title: Re: Too cliche?
Post by: SexualBubblegumX on April 14, 2008, 09:43:38 PM
The ending was revealed? Oh damn... I CALL SHENANIGANS!
Title: Re: Too cliche?
Post by: Claire the Fruitcake on April 15, 2008, 11:14:15 AM
GO FOR IT :D
Title: Re: Too cliche?
Post by: SexualBubblegumX on April 15, 2008, 11:57:21 PM
SHENANIGANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Too cliche?
Post by: Claire the Fruitcake on April 17, 2008, 06:11:41 PM
OHSHIT--
Title: Re: Too cliche?
Post by: Confederacy on April 18, 2008, 02:02:07 AM
Everything's cliched now a days. Because it's been tried and tried again. So don't try going an "un-cliching" it. It hardly ever works. However, adding onto the cliche"ness" can add for a great story.
Title: Re: Too cliche?
Post by: Claire the Fruitcake on April 18, 2008, 09:45:14 AM
Picking stuff that's cliche, just to see how original you can make it, can be pretty cool.
Title: Re: Too cliche?
Post by: Sophist on April 18, 2008, 12:20:51 PM
Everything is cliche, some just more than others. :x
Title: Re: Too cliche?
Post by: Claire the Fruitcake on April 18, 2008, 01:29:45 PM
Good point.

I hate cliche games. Especially Sailor Moon ones

"ONOEZ ITS A POWERFUL ENEMY RECOLOR ETERNAL SAILOR MOON SO SHE LOOKS LIKE CHIBIUSA!!!!11"


Ugh.
Title: Re: Too cliche?
Post by: Sabre_of_Pain on April 21, 2008, 11:18:08 PM
did you read the digimon part of my post? heh
Title: Re: Too cliche?
Post by: Claire the Fruitcake on April 22, 2008, 05:01:57 PM
.. no, lulz. I did when you mentioned it, though. Epic win.
Title: Re: Too cliche?
Post by: Arwym on April 22, 2008, 08:33:40 PM
Life is ENTIRELY cliché.  What are you guys so afraid of?  Clichés aren't bad.  It's the way you present them and use them in order to narrate an event or series of events, what makes makes the difference.

Remember, guys.  They say that history repeats itself.  What changes is the place, the time, and those witnessing that moment or forming part of it (among other elements I might have missed).

Oh, about the Digimon post... LMAO!  Made me remember yet another anime series:  Dragon Ball Z.  >.>
Title: Re: Too cliche?
Post by: SexualBubblegumX on April 23, 2008, 01:36:08 AM
I think DBZ may have more LOL value than Digimon. But I could be wrong.
Title: Re: Too cliche?
Post by: Claire the Fruitcake on April 23, 2008, 07:15:36 PM
"WHAT DOES THE SCOUTER SAY ABOUT HIS POWER LEVEL?!"
Title: Re: Too cliche?
Post by: SexualBubblegumX on April 24, 2008, 02:20:10 AM
IT'S OVER NINE-THOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUSSSSSAAAAAAANNNNNNDDDDD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Too cliche?
Post by: Claire the Fruitcake on April 25, 2008, 10:36:13 AM
WHAT, NINE THOUSAND?!