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Title: Next-Gen Console Discussion Thread
Post by: oneray on September 04, 2007, 09:37:38 PM
Wii has dominated the sales charts for a year now for its impressive sales. But will it stay like that? The 360 is coming out with its Halo 3 in a matter weeks and have finally upgraded their consoles to fix that that annoying bug. The PS3 is taking heavy blows but is coming back steadily with anticipated games like Kill Zone 2 and FF13 (yeah). Will the Wii still be able to compete with its lackluster graphics, reduced content and quality, and unique control scheme? DISCUSS!

This topic is the place for discussing the next-gen consoles. Any discussion in other threads regarding next-gen console debate will be deleted. ~Zypher
Title: Re: Will the Wii stand tall when the others bring out the big guns?
Post by: Irock on September 04, 2007, 09:43:38 PM
What's there to discuss? Only time will tell.
Title: Re: Will the Wii stand tall when the others bring out the big guns?
Post by: Falcon on September 04, 2007, 09:49:19 PM
Yeah, the Wii's screwed, it has no big guns.

SUPER SMASH BROS BRAWL DUMBASS.

The Wii has their own big gun, they should be fine, but only time will tell.
Title: Re: Will the Wii stand tall when the others bring out the big guns?
Post by: The.Muffin.King on September 04, 2007, 10:08:31 PM
Wii has disapointed me on a personal level. Too many CGI movies, too many shitty mini--games. THeres like 5 games out now at most i would buy.

Metroid Prime 3

Zelda Twilight Princess

Super Paper Mario

Trauma Center

Tanks in wii play.
Title: Re: Will the Wii stand tall when the others bring out the big guns?
Post by: Sophist on September 04, 2007, 10:26:45 PM
I doubt it. Sure, the eventual good game, but Halo 3 and Bioshock are going to tide people over until Silent Hill 5, Devil May Cry 4 and RE 5, and I knew when I had my Gamecube, Resident Evil 4 held me over until the end of the console generation.

EDIT: IN b4 SIRJACKREX
Title: Re: Will the Wii stand tall when the others bring out the big guns?
Post by: chewey on September 04, 2007, 10:40:24 PM
Wii has more big titles coming out for it than Xbox 360 or PS3.

I'll be surprised if Wii doesn't stay on top.
Title: Re: Will the Wii stand tall when the others bring out the big guns?
Post by: The.Muffin.King on September 04, 2007, 10:55:17 PM
Wii has more big titles coming out for it than Xbox 360 or PS3.

I'll be surprised if Wii doesn't stay on top.

Wii isn't on top.
Title: Re: Will the Wii stand tall when the others bring out the big guns?
Post by: Irock on September 04, 2007, 10:56:27 PM
Wii has more big titles coming out for it than Xbox 360 or PS3.

I'll be surprised if Wii doesn't stay on top.

Wii isn't on top.
Actually, the Wii is on top of sales.
Title: Re: Will the Wii stand tall when the others bring out the big guns?
Post by: Dwarra? on September 04, 2007, 11:31:48 PM
I doubt it. Sure, the eventual good game, but Halo 3 and Bioshock are going to tide people over until Silent Hill 5, Devil May Cry 4 and RE 5, and I knew when I had my Gamecube, Resident Evil 4 held me over until the end of the console generation.

EDIT: IN b4 SIRJACKREX
How the fuck does Halo 3 and Bioshock tide people over. Thats like saying Brawl will tide people over for other okay games that really only come out so the two or three fans will be happy.
Title: Re: Will the Wii stand tall when the others bring out the big guns?
Post by: Lord Dante on September 04, 2007, 11:34:24 PM
Also, the PS3 and PC will have Unreal Tournament 3, as well as the aforementioned and the 360 having Call of Duty 4 (and the DS, lol)

the supporters of the Wii will still support it, although I doubt that with these games it will stay on the top of sales.
Title: Re: Will the Wii stand tall when the others bring out the big guns?
Post by: The.Muffin.King on September 04, 2007, 11:47:58 PM
Wii needs to step up, and stop letting itself get used by shitty third-party companies, hired by CGI movie developers, who make minigames that have nothing to do with the movies.  And Actually make some GOOD games, like zelda and metroid and galaxy, hopefully.
Title: Re: Will the Wii stand tall when the others bring out the big guns?
Post by: shadowdude on September 05, 2007, 12:39:59 AM
Wii has dominated the sales charts for a year now for its impressive sales. 

The Wii dominated untill the PS3 came out. The PS3 has made more money than the Wii has in a shorter time, so the PS3 is on top. Not the Wii. It has also sold more.

The Wii has the new smash bros, if they make it so you have to use a joypad and not the remote to play then it will be good, if not then i dont really see any way of it being any good. Im just waitin for metroid to come out.
Title: Re: Will the Wii stand tall when the others bring out the big guns?
Post by: Irock on September 05, 2007, 12:45:39 AM
Wii has dominated the sales charts for a year now for its impressive sales. 

The Wii dominated untill the PS3 came out. The PS3 has made more money than the Wii has in a shorter time, so the PS3 is on top. Not the Wii. It has also sold more.

The Wii has the new smash bros, if they make it so you have to use a joypad and not the remote to play then it will be good, if not then i dont really see any way of it being any good. Im just waitin for metroid to come out.

http://www.vgchartz.com/
lol
Title: Re: Will the Wii stand tall when the others bring out the big guns?
Post by: Arrow on September 05, 2007, 12:48:16 AM
Wii has dominated the sales charts for a year now for its impressive sales. 

The Wii dominated untill the PS3 came out. The PS3 has made more money than the Wii has in a shorter time, so the PS3 is on top. Not the Wii. It has also sold more.

The Wii has the new smash bros, if they make it so you have to use a joypad and not the remote to play then it will be good, if not then i dont really see any way of it being any good. Im just waitin for metroid to come out.


LOL wut?
Title: Re: Will the Wii stand tall when the others bring out the big guns?
Post by: Falcon on September 05, 2007, 12:55:06 AM
Haha. Isn't Sony loosing money on each PS3?

Shadowdude, in one post you've managed to loose all the respect I had for you.
Title: Re: Will the Wii stand tall when the others bring out the big guns?
Post by: biohazard on September 05, 2007, 12:58:16 AM
Wow, shadowdude's an idiot.
Title: Re: Will the Wii stand tall when the others bring out the big guns?
Post by: Sophist on September 05, 2007, 01:25:13 AM
The Wii dominated untill the PS3 came out. The PS3 has made more money than the Wii has in a shorter time, so the PS3 is on top. Not the Wii. It has also sold more.

Quote from: Wikipedia, the only bringer of Truth
4.28 million as of June 30, 2007

That are the PS3 sales.

Quote from: Wikipedia, the only bringer of Truth
to Q2 2007 11.6 million units

360 Sales

Quote from: Wikipedia, the only bringer of Truth
Total    10.7 million+

Wii sales.

Wikipedia doesn't lie.
Title: Re: Will the Wii stand tall when the others bring out the big guns?
Post by: The.Muffin.King on September 05, 2007, 01:30:14 AM
Wii has dominated the sales charts for a year now for its impressive sales. 

The Wii dominated untill the PS3 came out. The PS3 has made more money than the Wii has in a shorter time, so the PS3 is on top. Not the Wii. It has also sold more.

The Wii has the new smash bros, if they make it so you have to use a joypad and not the remote to play then it will be good, if not then i dont really see any way of it being any good. Im just waitin for metroid to come out.




Where to begin, for starters, Theres an area on here called Video Games. GO THERE because, metroid is already out, also if you would go bother to open up your eyes and go into the super smash bros. thread, or if you knew about GOOGLE, you would know that in Super Smash Bros. they enabled all 4 types of control. http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/gamemode/various/various01.html . So please, before you say shit, make sure your living in the same year as us.
Title: Re: Will the Wii stand tall when the others bring out the big guns?
Post by: biohazard on September 05, 2007, 02:17:19 AM
Wii is only going to get better when they bring out the bing guns.  MP3 is amazing, LoZTP is great, SSBB will be the best fighter ever, and so many good games are coming out.  Enjoy bioshock and GoW.
Title: Re: Will the Wii stand tall when the others bring out the big guns?
Post by: TeaBag on September 05, 2007, 02:19:35 AM
I predict Nintendo will be so successful they'll have the time and money to focus on what they truly want to make: reincarnations of every Mario sports game ever made.  I personally can't wait until Mario Hoops 3 on 3: Miami
Title: Re: Will the Wii stand tall when the others bring out the big guns?
Post by: haloOfTheSun on September 05, 2007, 03:34:30 AM
Wikipedia doesn't lie.


LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Title: Re: Will the Wii stand tall when the others bring out the big guns?
Post by: Irock on September 05, 2007, 04:09:15 AM
Wikipedia doesn't lie.


LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Agreed.
Title: Re: Will the Wii stand tall when the others bring out the big guns?
Post by: Link on September 05, 2007, 06:12:06 AM
Wii has dominated the sales charts for a year now for its impressive sales. 

The Wii dominated untill the PS3 came out. The PS3 has made more money than the Wii has in a shorter time, so the PS3 is on top. Not the Wii. It has also sold more.

The Wii has the new smash bros, if they make it so you have to use a joypad and not the remote to play then it will be good, if not then i dont really see any way of it being any good. Im just waitin for metroid to come out.


I only agree with one, the PS3 made more money due to the fact that it costs the same as 3 wii's =/  and the games costing the same as 2 wii ones.
Title: Re: Will the Wii stand tall when the others bring out the big guns?
Post by: Irock on September 05, 2007, 07:15:52 AM
Wii has dominated the sales charts for a year now for its impressive sales. 

The Wii dominated untill the PS3 came out. The PS3 has made more money than the Wii has in a shorter time, so the PS3 is on top. Not the Wii. It has also sold more.

The Wii has the new smash bros, if they make it so you have to use a joypad and not the remote to play then it will be good, if not then i dont really see any way of it being any good. Im just waitin for metroid to come out.


I only agree with one, the PS3 made more money due to the fact that it costs the same as 3 wii's =/  and the games costing the same as 2 wii ones.
Really? Sony is loosing money for each PS3 sold. It costs about $800 USD to make, and is selling for $500 USD.
Title: Re: Will the Wii stand tall when the others bring out the big guns?
Post by: shadowdude on September 05, 2007, 10:53:09 AM
Im from england, and as far as i know it aint out over here, besides i didnt feel like looking at the smash bros thread.

Haha. Isn't Sony loosing money on each PS3?

Shadowdude, in one post you've managed to loose all the respect I had for you.

Oh well.
Title: Re: Will the Wii stand tall when the others bring out the big guns?
Post by: biohazard on September 05, 2007, 11:49:07 AM
Why dont you get it.  PS3 HASN'T got more money than Wii.
Title: Re: Will the Wii stand tall when the others bring out the big guns?
Post by: Falcon on September 05, 2007, 11:52:50 AM
If you don't know the facts, don't bother debating, it just makes you look like an idiot.

And yeah, PS3 is getting beat by the 360 and the Wii, the only reason Sony is doing alright is because of the PS2 sales.
Title: Re: Will the Wii stand tall when the others bring out the big guns?
Post by: chewey on September 05, 2007, 12:35:03 PM
ITT: Faggots unable to tell the difference between lose and loose.

Lose: "You lose" "Did you lose weight?"

Loose: "Your vagina is loose" "Your vagina is loose"

It isn't that hard.











"Your vagina is loose"

ANDAND

Quote
Microsoft's continued claims that their Xbox business will become profitable are looking to be on more and more shaky ground, as the Xbox division has made yet another massive loss. In their full year earnings report (for the fiscal year ended June 30 2007), Microsoft's 'Entertainment and Devices Division', which oversees the Xbox products, is listed as having lost another US$1.892 billion.

This figure includes their fourth quarter write-off of US$1.057 billion to cover the recently announced warranty extension program for faulty Xbox 360 systems, which knocked a 25% chunk out of the software giant's overall profits of around US$3 billion for the fourth quarter. Apart from the US$1.057 billion dollar write off, the Xbox division lost US$835,000,000. Given the strong software sales for the platform, this figure shows that Microsoft must still be taking heavy losses on their hardware, despite rumours that their hardware sales had become profitable.

According to Microsoft's financial statements, the Xbox division has lost US$6.795 billion since the launch of the original Xbox in 2001. So far the Xbox 360 is losing significantly more money year-on-year then the original machine, as the division has recorded a loss of $3.058 billion since October 2005, the month before the launch of the Xbox 360. Most reasonable estimates based on the available sales data conclude that around 9.5 million Xbox 360 consoles have been sold through to consumers of the 11.6 million Microsoft have shipped, so these losses equate to US$321 lost per Xbox 360 console sold.

Sony and Nintendo have yet to release their earnings reports for the quarter, but for the full year of March 2006 to March 2007, Sony's gaming division SCEI made a net loss of US$1.969 billion, and Nintendo made a net profit of US$1.489 billion.

From a gaming site I go to. The person who posted this quoted it from somewhere else so I'm not sure where it came from.

Nintendo makes money from every Wii they sell (first console in history to do this, maybe? I'm not sure).

Sony DOES NOT make money from every PS3 they sell. In fact, they lose a fair bit of money. Just so you know, most companies (pretty much all companies) do not make money from consoles. They make their money from Software.

Yeah, learn stuff plz.
Title: Re: Will the Wii stand tall when the others bring out the big guns?
Post by: Venom on September 05, 2007, 08:38:33 PM
Im tired of these fucking discussions please just stop making these topics because it starts to become a flame fest with fanboys :nono:
Title: Re: Will the Wii stand tall when the others bring out the big guns?
Post by: The.Muffin.King on September 05, 2007, 08:43:36 PM
Flame fest, i just think shadowdude said one the dumbest things ever, Your in the video game area of the site, How do you not know about metroid or smash, like you'd have to be illiterate, or blind.
Title: Re: Will the Wii stand tall when the others bring out the big guns?
Post by: oneray on September 05, 2007, 10:53:05 PM
Nice pic Venom  ;8

All the consoles expect the Wii have had a rough start and it still plaques them till this very day. 360's bug issues and PS3's premature release. But these problems will easily be solved. 360 has already released newer models with the bug issue. 360 is in second place without the release of Halo 3. Image the change of tide when Halo 3 is released! Wii gots no chance!
Title: Re: Will the Wii stand tall when the others bring out the big guns?
Post by: biohazard on September 05, 2007, 10:56:40 PM
Lern 2 Spel.  Halo 3 is a shitty fanboy game, most of the fanboys already have a 360, so it wont influence other people to buy them as much as you would think.
Title: Re: Will the Wii stand tall when the others bring out the big guns?
Post by: Irock on September 05, 2007, 10:57:34 PM
If you don't know the facts, don't bother debating, it just makes you look like an idiot.

And yeah, PS3 is getting beat by the 360 and the Wii, the only reason Sony is doing alright is because of the PS2 sales.
The reason Sony is doing alright, is because they are an electronics company. They make Televisions, DVD players, computers, radios, CD players, speakers, and other tons of stuff they make money off of every single day.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Console Discussion Thread
Post by: Roph on September 06, 2007, 01:18:35 AM
Why dont you get it.  PS3 HASN'T got more money than Wii.

I beleive he's talking about how all Nintendo has going for it is the GameCube, DS and Wii, wheras Sony has the PS2, PS3, PSP, laptops, hi-fis, HDTVs, cameras and so on. Plus they make various chipsets and etc that are used in various other electronics equipment made by other manufacturers. Nintendo used to use Sony sound module chips in their consoles.

[edit] I left this thread open for hours and ^ posted, still posted mine anyway
Title: Re: Next-Gen Console Discussion Thread
Post by: Venom on September 06, 2007, 02:20:42 AM
the wii is more of a gimmick , ps3 has awesome graphics, and xbox 360 can ignite

Not to say there horrible systems i happen to feel bias towards all but some people can be ignorant.
 
Title: Re: Next-Gen Console Discussion Thread
Post by: Irock on September 06, 2007, 02:36:09 AM
the wii is more of a gimmick , ps3 has awesome graphics, and xbox 360 can ignite

Not to say there horrible systems i happen to feel bias towards all but some people can be ignorant.
 
The Wii isn't a gimmick. It's a video game console with controls that you aren't used to. Change is good. If everything stayed the same, nothing would advance, and if nothing advanced, we would be stuck in the stone age. The Wii can hold your attention longer than playing games in the same style that you've had for almost fifty years. If a flying car was created, that saves gas, and gets you to your destination faster, but it controlled different, would you call it a gimmick? The Wii can give you more satisfaction than the other consoles, but it controls a bit different. Hell, it's like adding a new button, or a new analog stick, only you move your hand, rather than your finger. What about when the analog stick was introduced? No one had ever seen or used it before, but it made the gameplay allot better. Could you imagine playing todays games without the analog stick?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Console Discussion Thread
Post by: oneray on September 06, 2007, 11:19:13 PM
The Wii might have a "unique" control scheme but it lacks graphics, sound, quality, and games. If the Wii participated in the silicon warfare (better graphics, better ram, etc) Wii would be number 1 for sure! A vibrating rod can amuse only for awhile. ;D
Title: Re: Next-Gen Console Discussion Thread
Post by: The.Muffin.King on September 07, 2007, 12:00:42 AM
the wii is more of a gimmick , ps3 has awesome graphics, and xbox 360 can ignite

Not to say there horrible systems i happen to feel bias towards all but some people can be ignorant.
 
The Wii isn't a gimmick. It's a video game console with controls that you aren't used to. Change is good. If everything stayed the same, nothing would advance, and if nothing advanced, we would be stuck in the stone age. The Wii can hold your attention longer than playing games in the same style that you've had for almost fifty years. If a flying car was created, that saves gas, and gets you to your destination faster, but it controlled different, would you call it a gimmick? The Wii can give you more satisfaction than the other consoles, but it controls a bit different. Hell, it's like adding a new button, or a new analog stick, only you move your hand, rather than your finger. What about when the analog stick was introduced? No one had ever seen or used it before, but it made the gameplay allot better. Could you imagine playing todays games without the analog stick?

Agree'd, but i do like the D-Pad, and touch screen is sorta a hassle when its over used, thats bringing DS back into this.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Console Discussion Thread
Post by: oneray on September 07, 2007, 01:39:04 AM
Lots of games are better with the traditional controller than the Wii remote, especially sports games.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Console Discussion Thread
Post by: biohazard on September 07, 2007, 01:40:28 AM
I don't believe it.  A game is more immersing with the Wii Mote.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Console Discussion Thread
Post by: Sophist on September 07, 2007, 01:49:25 AM
I don't believe it.  A game is more immersing with the Wii Mote.

I think your right, but I can't see the Wii mote with every game. Yeah, some turn it sideways but I miss the feel of a whole controller in my hand.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Console Discussion Thread
Post by: Irock on September 07, 2007, 08:09:47 AM
Lots of games are better with the traditional controller than the Wii remote, especially sports games.
Really? Sports games are allot better with the Wii remote and Nunchuck. I don't think you've ever played any.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Console Discussion Thread
Post by: Link on September 07, 2007, 09:03:17 AM
the wii is more of a gimmick , ps3 has awesome graphics, and xbox 360 can ignite

Not to say there horrible systems i happen to feel bias towards all but some people can be ignorant.
 


I love you ignite function  ;8


And at the moment i am only going to get a 360, i already have a wii, but the debate's are endless, motion sensor, graphics and a bonfire, it will never end.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Console Discussion Thread
Post by: The.Muffin.King on September 07, 2007, 07:49:13 PM
Lots of games are better with the traditional controller than the Wii remote, especially sports games.
Really? Sports games are allot better with the Wii remote and Nunchuck. I don't think you've ever played any.

I havn't but from what i've learned from metroid, fps is way better.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Console Discussion Thread
Post by: oneray on September 07, 2007, 09:27:37 PM
Yeah, I think the remote is better for boxing, baseball, and fps only.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Console Discussion Thread
Post by: Irock on September 08, 2007, 06:57:47 AM
Yeah, I think the remote is better for boxing, baseball, and fps only.
More like:
Better for tennis, bowling, baseball, boxing, football, basketball, first person shooters, third person shooters, roll playling games, platformers, side scrollers, adventure games, wrestling games, racing games, mini games, menu screens, typing messages, internet browsing, and a whole lot more. If you're acting like that, you haven't even fucking touched a Wii. You need to stop being a fucking Wii hater, and start seeing things from a all around gamer's prospective. NOT from a fanboy's prospective. Every point you have made about the Wii has been invalid. You give no reasons or explanations, you just say something and hope we agree with you.

Fuck.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Console Discussion Thread
Post by: biohazard on September 08, 2007, 04:55:36 PM
Irock, you definitely do rock.  Oneray, go play some more Wii.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Console Discussion Thread
Post by: SirJackRex on September 08, 2007, 09:22:18 PM
Irock, you definitely do rock.  Oneray, go play some more Wii.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Console Discussion Thread
Post by: oneray on September 08, 2007, 11:25:50 PM
I don't think my rep can take anymore damage... :tpg:
Title: Re: Next-Gen Console Discussion Thread
Post by: Sophist on September 09, 2007, 01:29:35 AM
I never get rep for doing good things. Makes me look evil. D: But atleast I don't usually get bad rep.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Console Discussion Thread
Post by: biohazard on September 09, 2007, 02:40:42 AM
I derepped you because cthulhu is awesome, why would you want to have a positive rep. 
Title: Re: Next-Gen Console Discussion Thread
Post by: Sophist on September 09, 2007, 03:01:50 AM
Because I still have a soul? Cthulhu demands + Rep, because Cthulhu should be over everyone, not under.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Console Discussion Thread
Post by: biohazard on September 09, 2007, 03:28:12 AM
But he resides deep in the ocean, and therefore, is physically below everyone. 
Title: Re: Next-Gen Console Discussion Thread
Post by: Sophist on September 09, 2007, 03:50:09 AM
But stronger and mentally more awesome. Rep is not physical.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Console Discussion Thread
Post by: The.Muffin.King on September 09, 2007, 03:55:01 AM
But he resides deep in the ocean, and therefore, is physically below everyone. 

WELCOME TO RAPTURE
Title: Re: Next-Gen Console Discussion Thread
Post by: Sophist on September 09, 2007, 04:23:25 AM
Rapture lives in fear of Cthulhu. Fgt.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Console Discussion Thread
Post by: biohazard on September 09, 2007, 05:06:39 AM
Cthulhu is a monster, and an awesome one at that, have a neg rep, only paladin fags have a positive rep.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Console Discussion Thread
Post by: Sophist on September 09, 2007, 05:30:21 AM
Cthulhu is a monster, and an awesome one at that, have a neg rep, only paladin fags have a positive rep.

Like you?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Console Discussion Thread
Post by: Arrow on September 09, 2007, 05:32:45 AM
Locked.

This thread is ridiculous anyway, even without the spam on top of it.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Console Discussion Thread
Post by: Malson on September 09, 2007, 04:56:55 PM
Damn, guys. I give you a thread to freely debate next-gen consoles so you wouldn't shit up the other threads, and somehow you manage to shit this one up. Astounding.