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Okay I'm indifferent on this topic. But tell me what you guys think of the whole medical marijuana thing. Is it good, bad ot just stupid.

I'm totally indifferent on the subject, but I do think pot heads would try to get medical marijua for non mdeical resons thinking that would be  a legal grey area.

I think medical marijuana is a good thing. Personally I think marijuana in general should be legalized. Unlike tobacco cigarettes there are no proven ill side effects. I think marijuana is just like anything that can absorb a person. Video games included in that. Sometimes the obsession with the thing can lead people to bad choices. People should be responsible enough to make their own choices, and if they fail to should of course be punished accordingly. I think if marijuana were legal, people would be more responsable with their use of it. There is of course always the chance they wouldn't...

To summarize; Medical marijuana is a good thing. However legalizing it for other things could be good, and bad, depending on the choices of the people who use it.

of course marijuana should be allowed for medical uses..and really, y not for non medical uses?

Quote from: xanaxxy not for non medical uses?

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Quote from: xanaxxy not for non medical uses?

cause you are an idiot.

if you had any brain you would know that drugged people don't act like normal people
i really don't care about what happens to their body, if they wanna suicide i am willing to give that kind of people the gun
however, those brainless freaks of nature effect society with their behavior, they could easily kill if they don't like someone cause they don't think

i say anyone who use drugs or smoke or drink too much should be taken out of the world
same for thieves killers so on

this will solve the world's hunger problem, no one will be poor anymore cause there will be loads of jobs and everyone will behave like a smart beast or face results.

jail is wasted on people who shouldn't be alive. ~.~

as for medical usage, yes, it should be allowed for as long as there is no better way.

If you can honestly say that Marijuana makes people kill because you don't think, then you've never done it, and can't have it explained to you...IT DOES VERY LITTLE.  you can think perfectly fine, hell some people spend their life high and you wouldn't know it if you didn't know them.  Name one way someone smoking Marijuana could effect society...

Youre probably going to say something about driving...well the bottom line is that Maijuana can slow your reflexes sure, generally drivers that are high  drive slow and cautious so as to not get in trouble.  And besides your reflexes aren't that slow: simply stay further behind the car in front of you and pay close attention.

There now name one negatrive influence Marijuana(not all drugs as I think you were referring) has on society.  Name one.

Edit: You are just an arrogant person

"i say anyone who use drugs or smoke or drink too much should be taken out of the world
same for thieves killers so on

this will solve the world's hunger problem, no one will be poor anymore cause there will be loads of jobs and everyone will behave like a smart beast or face results.

jail is wasted on people who shouldn't be alive."

...your mother/father never had a drug problem or drinking problem?  Your friends never had dependency issues?  Your son/daughter never smoked pot?  Would you just kill them for drinking too much?  Is jail wasted wasted on them?  Someday, someone you love is going have some kind of dependency problem(drugs, alchohol, cigarettes, etc.); would you treat them the way you just posted?  If you would then you are a nazi     :wink:

^er how does that make him nazi if anything hitler is pro-drugs As for the drugs themselfs why do you need it? Most cases of "medical" Marijuana is just cuz the person says they dont wana take asperin so there is no reason to take it.

Whatever, its fun  :^^:  :lol: . Just don't smoke and drive.

It's good for cataracts...glaucoma...and pipes  :lol:

Quote from: sepiroth666^er how does that make him nazi if anything hitler is pro-drugs As for the drugs themselfs why do you need it? Most cases of "medical" Marijuana is just cuz the person says they dont wana take asperin so there is no reason to take it.

1  Hitler did use drugs himself thats not what I was referrring to.  I meant that Nazis "removed people" from the Earth that they didn't think deserved to live.  It's the same principle as "removing alchoholics and drug addicts" from the earth.  Its not up to any person or government to decide which people deserve to live.

2  Before Medical Marijuana was outlawed(i'll get the date and edit this post) there was a writer(i'll get his name and edit the post) who had both Cancer and AIDS and basically all he had to live for was Medical Marijuana to relieve himself from the constant pain of AIDS and Cancer(can you imagine what that would be like?)  It works better than Painkillers and Opiods because the person can still function and think clearly with a very low dependency(if any).  
People can't take Morphine forever and be fucked up all the time.  It has adverse side effects.  Marijuana doesn't have many(if any) adverse effects at all.  
Imagine this man after the DEA raided his house, confiscated his labtop,  didn't find anything, and told him to discontinue all use of Marjijuana.  The diseases he had didn't change, only the law, but now he had Government agents rummaging his apartment.  THE MAN  HAD CANCER AND AIDS, why couldn't the DEA leave him alone?

1.that is called communism not nazism

2.Others life with cancer and aids...btw that makes it worst if they do take it.I personly belive you should streghtn your own a imune system and let that fight for you granted that work vrs aids but if you have healthy diet and exersise a little bit that would help you a lot more but then agian that lazy ass would rather be on meds.

Grass is all natural man, no meds required  8) . Medicinal marijuana's only purpose is an enhanced pain reliever. All it does it eases the pain people suffer from long term or terminal diseases.

chilidish people :O

The reason criminals tend to also drink and/or smoke (not visa versa) is because someone who is criminal typically is more indulgent in the things in life that morals or simple good policy would consider ...less then savory. The drug does not make the person who they are, it is simply that type of person that is more likely to partake in usage of the drug. I think substances with lesser ammounts of mind alteration (marijuana being #1 in this catagory) wouldn't cause any problems in a responsible society if legalized. That said, many people are not responsible, and are going to break laws with or without drugs. The drug is not the problem. It is the people.

Also, its not nazism OR communism. Stop throwing around names without knowing what they actually mean.

As ussuall, I think blue is unneccesarily harsh, but I don't entirely disagree with him. The world is full of law breakers and morons. Its not a good thing. Perhaps death is the only true answer? Certainly, they cannot be controled.

But out of pure curiosity... blue, did/do you use the postality knights version of RPGMXP? If so, that would make you a criminal. Have you sentenced yourself to death? I wonder...

p.knights is an expection, it's not a crime to use it
it was translated from a free to use version
it couldn't possibly be stealing ,you just use the free version the way you find right regardless fo having an option to buy another version
that's why i don't see it as any form of a crime, they simply didn't think too much about it

now, as for internet crimes in general, they are very common, but it's more sharing than stealing
stealing would be say having a crack for the legal rmxp
sharing is to share your translation to the english version

atm there is no way you will be punished for internet crimes
there are massive crack sites out there, since no move i being done against them i suppose it's not yet the time to see it as a crime
maybe a form of communism
you give what you can (buy from time to time, help others or make stuff to put on the internet) and get as much as you need (you wouldn't sell a cracked game or use every crack or illegal program you could find, just what you really need, if you started selling those stuff though you'd be a criminal)
so i think this system shouldn't change cause alot of people still buy things despite the ability to download them
if they will stop doing that though there will be a problem
hopefully the internet will stay as it is now, a sharing place.

I completely agree with you. There are some people who abuse it, but mostly people seem to be responsible and not excessive with the resouces availible on the internet.

However, the distrubution, and often the aquisition of such things on the internet is considered, at least here in the US, to be illegal. People make use of loopholes in the law to keep doing what they do. For cracked games or emulation people will put explicit warnings saying you are not to download unless you already own the game (in which case it would be legal, however most people downloading it don't actually own it) and that you have been informed and they are absolved of responsibilty. When they do this the government can't do anything to shut them down because they have shifted the responsibility from themselves to the person downloading. The company that owns the game can of course request that they cease and desist, though I am not sure they can really enforce it.

The people who do this kind of thing on the internet are ussually pretty clever. They find the loopholes and hide behind them. It is hard to say if it is truely a crime, or if it is legal. The governing power of laws is blurred on the internet, however I don't feel it is causing any sort of real damage.

(Sorry for going off topic)

Okay okay, I'll try to  get this thing back onto the original subject.

I have some friends who smoke pot every once in a while. All they do while stoned is play Xbox or PS2. I don't think they're harming society in any way. But I'll admit not every one is like that, some people will do really stupid stuff while under the influence of drugs.

BTW, I don't smoke pot any more because my girlfriend won't let me. I be very whipped.

Why I'm indifferent on the medical marijuana is because some people will act completely harmless while stoned... While others would act stupid. I just wonder if there are enough people who wouldn't be stupid to make medical marijuana harmless.

And yes, it does work well with people who have cancer. It helps people regian their appetite, Chemo Therapy tends to kill some one's appetite. My cousin has cancer right now, and if his appetite starts going soth I wouldn't think twice about buying him pot because I know he wouldn't act stupid.

so my concern is, would there be too many people who would act stupid while stoned to ruin it for every one who wouldn't be stupid.

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Quote from: xanaxx
...your mother/father never had a drug problem or drinking problem? Your friends never had dependency issues? Your son/daughter never smoked pot? Would you just kill them for drinking too much? Is jail wasted wasted on them? Someday, someone you love is going have some kind of dependency problem(drugs, alchohol, cigarettes, etc.); would you treat them the way you just posted? If you would then you are a nazi

let's start
no my parents never had such a thing they are humans and not human apes, i choose my friends wisely unlike some people, my friend would never be retards who use drugs
my childs will be educated never to even want to do any of this sh*t, hell i never even want to lie thanks to the education i got

so yes, seeing as i am only around decent people, i see those who can't control themselves a waste.
a pure society is undoubtfuly a far superior society

now let's talk about that last comment
do you even know what nazis are? you obviously don't, cause if the nazis only had problems with criminals they would be saint and would be remembered as the best thing germany ever had
however, hitler was jailed due to an attempt to take over, instead of killing him like should be done with ever prisoner they let him go after a really too short period of time
he then works his way to the top by using physical power and little criminals like you that are willing to go and blackmail or to hit for no reason
they are sniffing pots all day long... ~.~

obviously you couldn't know that cause you are smoking all the time

you wanna know how bad it is? well here is a riddle
how come most of the criminals use it or are smokers or drinkers or all combined?


this world is getting worse and worse cause of dumb people like you
why should those things even exists?
smokers are just killing themselves and their smoke kills others
i say, shoot them, there is no reason why not to do it , it's what they want.

same with drinkers and the way they will cause damage to others while drunked
and needless to say, anyone who use drugs should be shot.

why would i want criminals around?

the nazis "removed" people they didn't like, true
but the people they "removed" were the following:
a. any german who wasn't what they would call perfect (any handicap or gay german got murdered)
b. anyone who tried to say no to hitler
c. anyone hitler considered a low race, aka everyone who isn't german but mainly jews at that point such as they had no country and thus no ability to defend themselves

i would highly doubt hitler used drugs, he might have been drinking at the start such as he was a criminal and a brute asshole
but he was playing around with the world fooling everyone, he ruined every sign of a revolution, forced his based-on-nothing theory on everyone

basicly, he was playing smart, to play that smart you have to be silver
don't forget hitler was a so called god for germany, but they did no encourage usage fo drugs, though if hitler used them everyone would have.
so for as much as i'd like to call hitler a drugged moron i doubt he was drugged.

now as for not being reasonable with my need to kill criminals...
why the f*ck are you becoming a criminal in the first place?
do you idiot even think of the people who will get hurt when you get easy money for your drugs?

you are watching tv too much idiot
there is no reason why human apes who don't behave would stay alive
such as it is it would have stopped hitler if you killed every jailed creep now wouldn't it?
so there...

and it would help every country cause they won't need to fund slimes like you

you like it for medical usage?
a. get permission from a doctor, it's not up to you to choose your miracle cure, even if it's something against a normal thing, you need to ask, that's what doctors are for
b. make sure that after you are done you can get the right treatment to help you stop the addiction

otherwise i wouldn't be shocked if you'll be jailed.

hitlerdidn't use drugs????? r u serious?  u dumbass



Wednesday :: May 11, 2005
Hitler's Drugged Soldiers
The German newspaper, Spiegel, has been running a series on the last days of WWII this week. Check out this article on Hitler drugging his soldiers with meth.

The Nazis preached abstinence in the name of promoting national health. But when it came to fighting their Blitzkrieg, they had no qualms about pumping their soldiers full of drugs and alcohol. Speed was the drug of choice, but many others became addicted to morphine and alcohol....Pervitin, a stimulant commonly known as speed today, was the German army's -- the Wehrmacht's -- wonder drug.
link:

http://www.talkleft.com/new_archives/010673.html

i didn't bother to finish reading because you don't live in the real world...

i think medical marajuana is used for the old timers for their last moments in life...cuz my grandpa is on it now...

Same here.

I think the medical drug doesn't really help much.Hell,The only time i ever see a doctor giving a person  Medical Marijuana is if they had eye problems.
I never seen a person just prescribed with Medical Marijuana because of anything else.

plus medical marajuana is used for testing to see what it can do to us...and how they can change the effects and such...

Quote from: xanaxx

hitlerdidn't use drugs????? r u serious?  u dumba$$



Wednesday :: May 11, 2005
Hitler's Drugged Soldiers
The German newspaper, Spiegel, has been running a series on the last days of WWII this week. Check out this article on Hitler drugging his soldiers with meth.

The Nazis preached abstinence in the name of promoting national health. But when it came to fighting their Blitzkrieg, they had no qualms about pumping their soldiers full of drugs and alcohol. Speed was the drug of choice, but many others became addicted to morphine and alcohol....Pervitin, a stimulant commonly known as speed today, was the German army's -- the Wehrmacht's -- wonder drug.
link:

http://www.talkleft.com/new_archives/010673.html

i didn't bother to finish reading because you don't live in the real world...

first learn to read
hitler did not use drugs, he made his soldiers use it, for the short range it would help them fight
such action is careless seeing as later on his soldier would pay the price, but it may have just come handy when he needed to take over weak countries like france and poland without much of effort
he himself couldn't possibly use drugs despite the fact that i am sure you are on drugs.

at ww2 i would doubt enough researches about side effects were made, seeing as that is the case the drugs, which on the short range makes you in a way a better physical soldier, weren't suspected to cause the troubles drugs make
as you can see in the articale it was mainly used against france and poland as they are weak enough to make the drugs last the entire war
using it against uk or russia would make german fall quicker than it did

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i didn't bother to finish reading because you don't live in the real world...

try actually reading ~.~

Blue I hope you deciede to take a puff and just explode.

I doubt Blue would ever touch marijuana. He's made it clear he doesn't like drugs and will never use them.

It makes you eat more, that's why it helps old people.

all i know is that medical marajuana is the best weed there is lol

It's some good stuff  8)

Quote from: ViperIt's some good stuff  8)

too bad weed isn't legal...i would be so stoned right now....that stuff is the shizzznet

doesn't stop me

i got some heat right now     :D     :D

couldn't be happpier

Oo medical usage = doctors allow it = ok
no pro doctors allow it = bad

Blue man, you're a stitch!   :D    r  u seriously this stupid?

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Blue have you ever thought some people actually need drugs hmm whats it called again.Medical mary jane? THATS WHAT THE DAMNED TOPIC IS ABOUT

I was really hoping to have a sophisticated discussion on  medical marijuana. I don't have any idea why it got like this... But it's more fun this way.

Quote from: Zxmelee PLEASE TELL ME WHAT THAT IS!

You really can't figure it out?    :shock:    Its is AK47 ....DANK!


EDIT:  btw BLUE, you're an ignorant dude...our President(assuming you live in the US) used to have a Cocaine problem and he turned out alright!    :D
Bill Clinton used to smoke bud, the Beatles(probably the most famous and influential rock band ever)  smoked loads of bud and dropped acid, millions of people use drugs and the majority of them are good people.  


P.S.  Smoking marijuana doesn't have anything to do with being gay(i think you're insecure about yourself)

i don't live in usa and i never claimed i do.
but from what i hear , politicians there , just like in the rest of the world, are not people to be proud of.

i suggest you get off my back or actions will be taken

off your back?  i don't give a damn about you.  You post about "drug user"(and this topic was about MARIJUANA, not drugs) and I guess you'll think the way you do forever!  Until your son smokes a little pot  :lol:

Would you remove him from the earth like you previously stated?

have no idea what ya talk about
but smoking pot in this family is by all means a punishment of worth
in this family parents are still feared and has leadership powers

it failed to be in the rest of the world, the parents nowadays are weak
so many people shouldn't be parents.
the existance of a pot smoker in my family is not a possibility and such thing will not be moved on unpunished
banishing the beast from home is the one lesson needed.

marjuana is a drug, anything that changes the way you think act or whatever is a drug.
it is now obvious you are a drug user and until you are silver i do not plan on talking to you

be respectful and leave the topics or stop commenting my replys

Your a fuck up blue.Admit it.And xanaxx He is saying Drugged up gay person because i am Bi and i am supposedly a drug user.Which is wack i don't support drugs why would i be a drug user.BUT i do not think that a drugged person should die.I mean what is so bad about smoking pot?I dont like pot i never will but i dont have anything against pot users.UNLIKE BLUE HERE.

Mental, hush, chill, take a seat, and STFU for  minute!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If you dont like blues opinions why reply to his posts ey?

. . .i don't know what to say.   anyone who can't see the difference between Marijuana and REAL DRUGS(meth, crack, dust, rolls, etc.) is pretty blind.  


BTW Blue its great that your kids fear you(lol), but you don't have to scare your kids to keep them in line.   I'm not trying to argue w/ you, i was trying to have  a intelligient debate(and that's what we are doing)  my bad i wasn't trying to piss you off.

Quote from: thatsmypieMental, hush, chill, take a seat, and STFU for  minute!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If you dont like blues opinions why reply to his posts ey?

That's because he just loves to argue, anyone can see that. Some people just get their kicks off of starting and continuing flames which has been happening way to often at these forums. If no one has anything productive to say on the topic, then he/she shouldn't post in it...pretty straight forward don't you think?

But of course comments of this nature are not going to be heeded because no one seems to give a rats ass. They just keep on arguing to the point were a topic gets blown way out of control, and then the original author (who was attempting to start a civilized conversation) notices that a bunch of immature children have blatantly started to flame the thread he posted...this is a never ending cycle.

Quote from: xanaxx. . .i don't know what to say.   anyone who can't see the difference between Marijuana and REAL DRUGS(meth, crack, dust, rolls, etc.) is pretty blind.  


BTW Blue its great that your kids fear you(lol), but you don't have to scare your kids to keep them in line.   I'm not trying to argue w/ you, i was trying to have  a intelligient debate(and that's what we are doing)  my bad i wasn't trying to piss you off.

Finally a sensible post that does not involve arguing, well done xanaxx!!!
lol

Quote from: xanaxx. . .i don't know what to say.   anyone who can't see the difference between Marijuana and REAL DRUGS(meth, crack, dust, rolls, etc.) is pretty blind.  


BTW Blue its great that your kids fear you(lol), but you don't have to scare your kids to keep them in line.   I'm not trying to argue w/ you, i was trying to have  a intelligient debate(and that's what we are doing)  my bad i wasn't trying to piss you off.

NO TRY TO PISS HIM OFF THE BEST YOU CAN.He pisses off EVERYONE and what do you do when you outwit him?He gets super mad and thinks of a fiction to tell you to top it off. Or he dies down and then says YOU will be the one banned

Quote from: MentalYour a f*ck up blue.Admit it.And xanaxx He is saying Drugged up gay person because i am Bi and i am supposedly a drug user.Which is wack i don't support drugs why would i be a drug user.BUT i do not think that a drugged person should die.I mean what is so bad about smoking pot?I dont like pot i never will but i dont have anything against pot users.UNLIKE BLUE HERE.

i'm glad at least one person knows that Marijuana doesn't go in the same category as Heroin and Coke.  Watch Half Baked(i think that's it, w/ Dave Chapelle) when he goes to rehab for Marijuana everyone is like, "You're in here for Marijuana??  I used to suck d*** for coke; Have you ever sucked d*** for Marijuana???"  i just think some of these people on this thread act like Marijuana causes addiction, violence, and crime when really it causes good times  :D
You don't have to be a pothead to know Marijuana isn't a social problem; it is kind of common sense.  The only way Marijuana could f*ck a life up is if someone wants to do real drugs, but if a person stays on Marijuana it's smooth sailing.  You can still work, function, etc.  Just don't drive when you're too high(You can drive just fine when you're kicking a buzz)

That's my 2 cents

EDIT: MENTAL wrote:

NO TRY TO PISS HIM OFF THE BEST YOU CAN.He pisses off EVERYONE and what do you do when you outwit him?He gets super mad and thinks of a fiction to tell you to top it off. Or he dies down and then says YOU will be the one banned

Well, I don't really think pissing someone off over the internet is something to do(its a HUGE waste of time).  But honestly, i've never seen anyone so blinded by hatred of drug users(which is completely different from Potheads).  Some drug user must've done something to really piss him off in his life or something.

Point proven in my last post.

MENTAL stop posting in this thread if all you're going to do is bash Blue. The further you incite this, the worse it is going to get. I don't know whether or not you are trying to prove you are tough or not, but it virtually means squat on these forums...because no one cares.

Quote from: Mental

Quote from: xanaxx. . .i don't know what to say.   anyone who can't see the difference between Marijuana and REAL DRUGS(meth, crack, dust, rolls, etc.) is pretty blind.  


BTW Blue its great that your kids fear you(lol), but you don't have to scare your kids to keep them in line.   I'm not trying to argue w/ you, i was trying to have  a intelligient debate(and that's what we are doing)  my bad i wasn't trying to piss you off.

NO TRY TO PISS HIM OFF THE BEST YOU CAN.He pisses off EVERYONE and what do you do when you outwit him?He gets super mad and thinks of a fiction to tell you to top it off. Or he dies down and then says YOU will be the one banned

Look... Mental, shut up for a moment, whos the bad guy here? YOU! Blue has an opinion that you dont like, if you dont like it the STFU!!! Dont post, and also he is not getting pissed off, in fact, he is LAUGHING at you! Trying to piss him off makes YOU the bad guy in this! Mayby if you STFU blue would be the bad guy, but now you have gone and provoked him. If you shut up, he'll shut up, easy as that, i'm sure blue and most other people will also agree!

you'd think mental learned his lesson for the little anti- group blitz

i guess there is no hope then...

i'll ignore most of you, no real point commenting what was already said

i think though, that a drug is a drug
there are easy drugs and heavy drugs
i still think they shouldn't be allowed or used, keeping your mind your own and not massed with is something humans should hope for

at this rate the idea of mind controling drugs may just become reality
you let a drug run around the streets, and it gets people high and only after a certain period of time it suddenly changes your brain more than just for the high feeling
one day it will be reality to make people think in a certain way, nowadays drugs can only make you more aggressive , more calm, more happy, more sad, basic things
those things are dangerous if someone will decide to study how to control the changes they inflict on the human brains it can be the end of the human race >>

Hes a fuck off. Blue did you know caffein is a drug?Don't tell me you have never drunk a soda or a coffee or some of that.You are using drugs right there.Soda has caffeine in it and that is a drug whether you like it or not

Caffeine isn't as bad as other "high-strong" drugs.

There you go again mental! Why do this huh? What fun do you get from it? Do you think your tough? If you do boy are you wrong!
Blue dislikes ILLEGAL DRUGS! Caffine is not illegal, thus making it ok to blues taste! (If you know what I mean hehe)

Quote from: MentalHes a f*ck off. Blue did you know caffein is a drug?Don't tell me you have never drunk a soda or a coffee or some of that.You are using drugs right there.Soda has caffeine in it and that is a drug whether you like it or not

Oi! Something actually intelligent...somewhat. Yes caffeine is a drug, however it is not classified as being a narcotic or barbiturate. It is a stimulant...and given in very low doses, almost negligant. It's effects do not break down the body as most hard drugs do but instead it gives soda the addicting feature...much like coffee. And it helps keep people awake.  :)

YAY for CAFFEINE!!!!!

Still it IS  a drug and isn't more different then any other drug. Because caffeine does make you hyper if your little.  And what does normal drugs do.They make you hyper too they just dont show it the way that caffeine does.

We're not even talking about Medical Marijuana anymore.  Well, the Supreme Court used the best researchers in the world, and they determined that Marijuana is not effective in aiding AIDS and CANCER patients.  They determined the synthetic marijuana(Marynol) was just as effective and users didn't have to smoke it so they outlawed Medical Marijuana(there shouldn't be any medical marijuana anywhere in the US.  If i'm wrong let me know) This was pretty darn recent too.

Quote from: MentalStill it IS  a drug and isn't more different then any other drug. Because caffeine does make you hyper if your little.  And what does normal drugs do.They make you hyper too they just dont show it the way that caffeine does.

Ok, I retract my former statement...your last post was retarded. Caffeine is different then any other drug because of the effects that it registers. Or I suppose you are thinking that pain medication like Aspirin is just as bad as meth? Or Tylenol is just as bad as PCP? They are all drugs, so that must make them evil and bad right?

yes and painkillers are drugs too, point is, the good drugs (pain killer, caffeine whatever) don't cause any addiction, are allowed by law and do nothing but help mostly....
surely big amounts are death , but only if taken at the same time
pure caffeine tastes like.. #$#$#$$ and pain killers taste worse...

it's not even the addiction that is to be feared but the feel that makes you wanna keep using it.
you don't want to drink pure caffeine and in soda or whatever it's a slightly not deadly at all amount
and i wanna see you eat the amount of pain killers needed to kill you
it tastes so awful... >>

super- easy leveled drugs are good, mari seems to me as high, crack and so on are on the "deadly" level
i don't think illegal drugs, highly strong drugs and deadly drugs of sort should be used at all
and besides, if mari becomes legal i will no longer have any rejection to it
but respect the law, it's the least you can do if you wanna suicide and kill everyone with you >>

No it doesn't.Im trying to prove a point to Blue that he has this little "Drug theory" Is wrong.

Did you read his post?!?! Holy crap paladin. You don't even care, you just want to be right! You're wrong!

Quote from: blueXxyes and painkillers are drugs too, point is, the good drugs (pain killer, caffeine whatever) don't cause any addiction, are allowed by law and do nothing but help mostly....
surely big amounts are death , but only if taken at the same time
pure caffeine tastes like.. #$#$#$$ and pain killers taste worse...

it's not even the addiction that is to be feared but the feel that makes you wanna keep using it.
you don't want to drink pure caffeine and in soda or whatever it's a slightly not deadly at all amount
and i wanna see you eat the amount of pain killers needed to kill you
it tastes so awful... >>

super- easy leveled drugs are good, mari seems to me as high, crack and so on are on the "deadly" level
i don't think illegal drugs, highly strong drugs and deadly drugs of sort should be used at all
and besides, if mari becomes legal i will no longer have any rejection to it
but respect the law, it's the least you can do if you wanna suicide and kill everyone with you >>

Aye, medicinal marijuana is legal to those who have been legally prescribed the medication for severe disfunctions...like advanced stage glaucoma...cataracts, which becomes extremely painful. However for everyday use, it is against the law...

Quote from: MentalNo it doesn't.Im trying to prove a point to Blue that he has this little "Drug theory" Is wrong.

then come up with better statements cause atm you are the one being proved wrong  :whoa:

Mental, give up, no one has ever one an argument with blue(as far as I know), belive me, I tried when I was new here lol (and boy did I fail, misreably)

EDIT: This is mental in an argument with bluexx
www.mental.justgotowned.com

Quote from: blueXxyes and painkillers are drugs too, point is, the good drugs (pain killer, caffeine whatever) don't cause any addiction, are allowed by law and do nothing but help mostly....
surely big amounts are death , but only if taken at the same time
pure caffeine tastes like.. #$#$#$$ and pain killers taste worse...

it's not even the addiction that is to be feared but the feel that makes you wanna keep using it.
you don't want to drink pure caffeine and in soda or whatever it's a slightly not deadly at all amount
and i wanna see you eat the amount of pain killers needed to kill you
it tastes so awful... >>

I agree.  Caffeine is a harmless drug. BUT, painkillers are some of the most(if not the most) addictive drugs there are.  Morphine, oxycotton, oxymorphine, phentenol, are all VERY DANGEROUS.  And it doesn't take much to kill you.  You could Overdose off like 100-200mgs of MORPHINE(that's the dose most people are prescribed for hydrocodein) I know plenty of people who needed a detox after painkiller addiction.  
PS I don't understand what you mean "I wanna see you eat the amount of painkillers needed to kill you it tastes so awfull"?????  I could easily swallow 10-20 750milligram pills of Vicoden and that would kill me, but I wouldn't even taste it. I didn't get that part of your post.

xanaxx, I'm not sure if he meant chewing them or not...if so that would be terrible.

As far as pain killers are concerned, there are only a few prescribed medications for pain that are considered to be addictive. Those over the counter type of drugs are designed not to be addictive, but at the same time are very effective.

Quote from: Viperxanaxx, I'm not sure if he meant chewing them or not...if so that would be terrible.

As far as pain killers are concerned, there are only a few prescribed medications for pain that are considered to be addictive. Those over the counter type of drugs are designed not to be addictive, but at the same time are very effective.

Well if you guys are talking about non-prescription pain killers, then yeah they are pretty harmless.  But almost all pain medicine(prescription) including Tylenol3 w/ Codein  the weakest one I know of) can still be used in a euphoric way(which can lead to addiction).  All pain prescription pain medicines are 100 times more likely to cause addiction than Marijuana.  So, if I use that logic then Medical Marijuana is safer.  However the Supreme Court made its ruling, so Medical Marijuana is outlawed but Phentynol Patches(highly addictive and, if used improperly, lethal) are still Prescribed.  It's a very complex and complicated issue...

In a rehab center at the dentist and in surgery (i.e for the most part) patients aren't allowed any painkillers or over-the-counter medication because they are so addictive and those people are highly sussceptible to addiction.  Just something to think about   :shock:

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Quote from: Viperxanaxx, I'm not sure if he meant chewing them or not...if so that would be terrible.

As far as pain killers are concerned, there are only a few prescribed medications for pain that are considered to be addictive. Those over the counter type of drugs are designed not to be addictive, but at the same time are very effective.

Well if you guys are talking about non-prescription pain killers, then yeah they are pretty harmless.  But almost all pain medicine(prescription) including Tylenol3 w/ Codein  the weakest one I know of) can still be used in a euphoric way(which can lead to addiction).  All pain prescription pain medicines are 100 times more likely to cause addiction than Marijuana.  So, if I use that logic then Medical Marijuana is safer.  However the Supreme Court made its ruling, so Medical Marijuana is outlawed but Phentynol Patches(highly addictive and, if used improperly, lethal) are still Prescribed.  It's a very complex and complicated issue...

In a rehab center at the dentist and in surgery (i.e for the most part) patients aren't allowed any painkillers or over-the-counter medication because they are so addictive and those people are highly sussceptible to addiction.  Just something to think about   :shock:

I take Q-Pap which is a version of Tylenol3. I'm not addicted to it.

Okay, if Mental stops we can get this back on track.  Okay some one mentioned pain killer addictions? I have a freind who had to go to rehab because of Oxicotin.  My opinion on opium based pain killers  is such. Be carefull it's too addictive to goof off with. Take it as perscribed or don't touch it at all.

Quote from: FuMannChuOkay, if Mental stops we can get this back on track.  Okay some one mentioned pain killer addictions? I have a freind who had to go to rehab because of Oxicotin.  My opinion on opium based pain killers  is such. Be carefull it's too addictive to goof off with. Take it as perscribed or don't touch it at all.

What the? Im not even arguing im just saying examples that there are drugs all around us.Because blue is a Pharmocophobic...
And anyways that isn't on track anyways....Cause this topic is about Medical Mary Jane.Did anyone notice that? :|

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Quote from: xanaxx

Quote from: Viperxanaxx, I'm not sure if he meant chewing them or not...if so that would be terrible.

As far as pain killers are concerned, there are only a few prescribed medications for pain that are considered to be addictive. Those over the counter type of drugs are designed not to be addictive, but at the same time are very effective.

Well if you guys are talking about non-prescription pain killers, then yeah they are pretty harmless.  But almost all pain medicine(prescription) including Tylenol3 w/ Codein  the weakest one I know of) can still be used in a euphoric way(which can lead to addiction).  All pain prescription pain medicines are 100 times more likely to cause addiction than Marijuana.  So, if I use that logic then Medical Marijuana is safer.  However the Supreme Court made its ruling, so Medical Marijuana is outlawed but Phentynol Patches(highly addictive and, if used improperly, lethal) are still Prescribed.  It's a very complex and complicated issue...

In a rehab center at the dentist and in surgery (i.e for the most part) patients aren't allowed any painkillers or over-the-counter medication because they are so addictive and those people are highly sussceptible to addiction.  Just something to think about   :shock:

I take Q-Pap which is a version of Tylenol3. I'm not addicted to it.

Well if you ate enough to get faded and/or drank with them then your chances to get addicted are helluva lot more.
(actually, unless you're taking those pills for fun your prescription will probably run out and you wouldn't be able to get them anymore.  But with powerful painkillers, then you have longer prescriptions due to more severe injuries/ailments which is how addiction starts.  No one can addicted to 30 or 60 Tylenol 3s anyway, but if you get addicted to painpills and pharmaceuticals in general, that's the only way Tylenol3 can be bad for you.)

--Just my opinion--

PS Someone mentioned that legal drugs were okay and illegal drugs are not.  That is the stupid thing I've ever heard.  Corocedin and Robitussin are two of the most abused and wildly used drugs in my area among teens(Corcedin and Robitussin are both legal over-the-counter drugs anyone can buy as many as they want).  The FDA says thats cool, and Salvia is smoked legally ALL THE TIME.  Those drugs don't fall into the harmless category the way MARIJUANA does medicinal or not.

Finally! An answer that is meaningful!

Quote from: MentalFinally! An answer that is meaningful!

finally! a yet another show of how dumb you really are
if the other comments around are meaningless to you
then you are a moron, that is all.
actually.. you are a moron anyways and you keep proving it

Ha atleast my cells inside my brain function correctly to understand that there are drugs all around the place.My nucleus isn't brain damaged.I dont smoke Pot.Not that you care.You will just keep calling me a crack addict
:roll: Silly rabbit tricks are for kids

Mental, GO TO YOUR ROOM!  Everytime this starts to get fixed you just end up trying to agrivate Blue. You know what? F*ck this sh*t! F*ck it all.

Halo, Silverline if one of you are reading this lock this stupid topic.

And Mental, I was the guy who started this topic! Of course I know what the F*ck its about! Mental your driving me f*cking mental! :whoa:  :whoa:  :whoa:  :whoa:  :whoa:  :whoa:  :whoa:  :whoa:  :whoa:  :whoa:  :whoa:  :whoa:  :whoa:  :whoa:  :whoa:  :whoa:  :whoa:  :whoa:  :whoa:  :whoa:  :whoa:  :whoa:  :whoa:  :whoa:  :whoa:  :whoa:  :whoa:  :whoa:  :whoa:  :whoa:

Sorry for the 'specail' smileys but this kid can seriously give people brain damage.

this topic is strictly about medical marajauna not anything else...

Damn! you just had to post as soon as i edited my post!
oh well fumann.Your not my first victom to go mental.

ANYWAY,How is saying
"Finally a post that is resonable" Making you mad?Huh?

Quote from: MentalDamn! you just had to post as soon as i edited my post!
oh well fumann.Your not my first victom to go mental.

ANYWAY,How is saying
"Finally a post that is resonable" Making you mad?Huh?

holy crap man you're crazy!

if you are a twat and you don't know it clap your hands... clap your hands!

Quote from: blueXxif you are a twat and you don't know it clap your hands... clap your hands!

what the heck is a twat

twat = Mental

This garbage needs to be locked. At first it was funny seeing BlueXx pwn mental. Now it just needs to end because he's not getting the fact that it's impossible to out argue BlueXx, that's one of the many things he's known for..

This needed to be locked about five times over already. If I could of locked this topic I would of.

And I'll say it one more time..... MENTAL! GO TO YOUR F*CKING ROOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111oneoneoneone

LOCKED FOR A WEEK

WILL PROBABLY BE CLEANED UP BEFORE IT'S RE-OPENED

I could watch Blue and Mental forever, but ther you go, thats where freedom ends. Anyway, It's a stupid idea, If its actually serious enough that you need it, youll need a lot, and youll be drugged up, and also you may be religious.

I'm all for Medical Marijuana. I don't smoke or do any drugs, but from what results I've seen, it works, and the participants don't come out any worse for wear. It's win-win.

I remember this topic. It made me all warm and fuzzy inside.