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Title: [RESOLVED]please make RTP walking character for this guys =)
Post by: dollmage on May 12, 2007, 07:11:12 PM
any one can make a chip set/character set or what ever you called them)for my side view battlers??? i shared some of the battlers i made on this forum under resources(its been moved to
Resources Database.) ill keep on posting some more im trying to make 50 battlers :D but i have only manage to make 10

can you make them to XP walking character sprites

here they are:
:) its kinda trench coat like the one on matrix but no sleave's have a single shoulder pad armor
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi211.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fbb135%2Fzieg1516%2FZiegfred_ready.png&hash=2ae58b50a0a8a0c6da0b2251ab5534e094f61219)
be sure to make his pony tail noticable and also try to make a seperate one with a spear on his back
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi211.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fbb135%2Fzieg1516%2Fspearman_ready.png&hash=592780d5097b906952788e7c0a88ef2550153278)
make his eye patch like kakashi :D the one from naruto and try to make a separate one where he is holding his bow
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi211.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fbb135%2Fzieg1516%2FArcher_attack_default.png&hash=1187c6da2e3148d3abef7119f20fe7ebac269cca)
i want him to appear larger the the others and more buff and bulky, make a separate sprite of him with an axe on his back
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi211.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fbb135%2Fzieg1516%2FGladiator_ready.png&hash=2096cd3a0a6bb3df1aa7e8f092887d1f168d7a5a)
added the gunsman (note i didnt make the bazooka still lazy)can you make him too?and also his cape is not only half way to his waist and can you make a separate sprite of him with a boozoka? that would be good ^_^ thanks so much
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi211.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fbb135%2Fzieg1516%2Fgunner_victory1.png&hash=4109c713869c6d612d525386699e645b0c614807)
make him more demonic but with small horns (note im gonna remake this one so this one is optional) try to make a saparate chip set of him with a double sword on his back :D crosing each other like the letter X
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi211.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fbb135%2Fzieg1516%2FZeibsen_ready.png&hash=dbdfe9506a0e62493b515d6578ecb34501aac1ef)



Title: Re: any one good at chip sets? can you make me some
Post by: modern algebra on May 12, 2007, 11:56:54 PM
I would make them, but I don't think I am good enough  ;9

Seriously, those are some beautiful side-view battlers. I am sure that someone talented will come along and do them.
Title: Re: any one good at chip sets? can you make me some
Post by: Shibuya on May 13, 2007, 12:51:10 AM
What you mean chip sets?
battle background?
Title: Re: any one good at chip sets? can you make me some
Post by: King Anesis on May 13, 2007, 12:52:32 AM
Chipset = Tileset.

Well that's the official definition for it.
Title: Re: any one good at chip sets? can you make me some
Post by: modern algebra on May 13, 2007, 01:02:41 AM
What he means is a sprite set I believe. The guys you walk around with on the map. But yeah, in 2k3, tilesets were called chipsets., so it's a little misleading.
Title: Re: any one good at chip sets? can you make me some
Post by: Shibuya on May 13, 2007, 01:05:41 AM
Ok I'll try the character sets or whatever you call it...
Title: Re: any one good at character sprite sets? can you make me some(the one that walks)
Post by: dollmage on May 13, 2007, 02:49:52 AM
yeah the one that walks   :-[ ^_^ hehehe sorry bout that i do not know what to call them  ::)

i tried making a few one's but i think im not good at this mainly their too small. and the walking i have a template but xD still its not that good i hope someone could make them.

especialy the one with the black dress one the first post
Title: Re: any one good at character sprite sets? can you make me some(the one that walks)
Post by: Ran Master on May 13, 2007, 05:00:18 AM
 ;)They're pretty nice for Sprite,
I would help but, rpgmaker XP sprites are too diffacult for me to make. Due to the large sizes, I can't really edit them, if it was for rm2k, then maybe...
Title: Re: any one good at character sprite sets? can you make me some(the one that wal
Post by: Shibuya on May 13, 2007, 07:28:20 AM
Dollmage I stated doing them....
I'll post when I finish the hair(INSANELY DIFFICULT!!!)
Title: Re: any one good at character sprite sets? can you make me some(the one that wal
Post by: dollmage on May 13, 2007, 11:27:31 AM
Ok I did left and right

(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi125.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fp66%2Flimsijing%2FRPGHelp.png&hash=f4b144ae68d4b12a99ff089fdd2af8878bda4b7f)
wow your using half kaiser ^_^ totally awesome coincidence ^_^ im using that one two with all my npc :D i know its extremly hard but when its finish dang ^_^ it would look so cool and ill share all of my battlers if this are finish :D

oh and kira his other eye is not like that ill hmmmmmmmmmm maybee this will help you out a bit :D(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi211.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fbb135%2Fzieg1516%2Fpreview.png&hash=41eb342ed78944364992b3aa0589e5070eca34a1)
Title: Re: any one good at character sprite sets? can you make me some(the one that wal
Post by: Shibuya on May 13, 2007, 12:17:12 PM
Like this?
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi125.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fp66%2Flimsijing%2FRPGHelp3.png&hash=3e87fe276e7ce3788fa7b6c1bde89cedb3eab6fb)
Title: Re: any one good at character sprite sets? can you make me some(the one that walks)
Post by: dollmage on May 13, 2007, 01:23:21 PM
yes like that ^_^ now for the problem im having so much with how to place the eye on the front view ^_^ and how to set up the hair the right way it should =)


oh and kira i was thinking more of this size coz thats a bit too big for me xD
here you go can u use this as the template?
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi211.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fbb135%2Fzieg1516%2Fzed_world.png&hash=7c3e201aa4d695c8093f6307b6b384b863229000)
don laugh i know i know I suck when it come to this part T_T
Title: Re: any one good at character sprite sets? can you make me some(the one that wal
Post by: Shibuya on May 13, 2007, 10:54:55 PM
Ok I'll use that...and the eyes on front-view I think it's just to near to each other...
Title: Re: any one good at character sprite sets? can you make me some(the one that walks)
Post by: dollmage on May 14, 2007, 12:33:05 PM
ok if you say so but my edit in the body suck >.< cant wait till you finish them :D ill send you the battler as soon you complete one of them
Title: Re: any one good at character sprite sets? can you make me some(the one that walks)
Post by: dollmage on May 17, 2007, 10:32:38 AM
bump ti bi dump
Title: Re: any one good at character sprite sets? can you make me some(the one that wal
Post by: Shibuya on May 25, 2007, 08:28:29 AM
Sorry dude...can't make it....cuz I don't have a full template...
Title: Re: any one good at character sprite sets? can you make me some(the one that walks)
Post by: dollmage on May 25, 2007, 10:10:27 AM
its ok ei kira a can you make them as the default one, the small walking character things XP version that would be much help
Title: Re: any one good at character sprite sets? XP style? the one that walks
Post by: Shibuya on May 25, 2007, 12:03:36 PM
You mean RTP?
Title: Re: any one good at character sprite sets? XP style? the one that walks
Post by: dollmage on May 25, 2007, 03:15:25 PM
You mean RTP?


yes ^_^ that would be good =)
Title: Re: please make RTP walking character for this guys =(
Post by: landofshadows on May 26, 2007, 01:58:46 PM
I only work on normal size sprites... I have not got enough reference material to work on yours...

Some thing I don't understand, if you can make WICKED battle anims, surely Walking anims should be a walk in the park... Forgive the pun...LOL ~?

Or do you want them small like those in RPG Maker XP as standard ?

Post up an exact template of the size you want them... All frames... Or even a finished one all frames.
Title: Re: please make RTP walking character for this guys =(
Post by: dollmage on May 26, 2007, 06:07:54 PM
yup i want the standard RTp look :D,
this size ^_^
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi211.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fbb135%2Fzieg1516%2Fyet20another20fighter20edit.png&hash=0a440f7daee7af155b93e756106db86213f34485)

i made a few but they look horible the moving oh kill me LOL so im asking for someone good at this to help me out =) and the way the eyes look i suck at this T_T do help tnx

Title: Re: please make RTP walking character for this guys =(
Post by: landofshadows on May 26, 2007, 09:40:47 PM
I choose to do the Hardest Sprite... I am going to try and explain ho I done the Sprite so you can attempt the others.

(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi211.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fbb135%2Fzieg1516%2Fspearman_ready.png&hash=592780d5097b906952788e7c0a88ef2550153278)

Open RPG Maker XP, and go through the Sprites available, and see what sprites Match what your trying to do, the best... I Choose the Bard and Fighter01...

I opened all the reference material in Photoshop.

(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi178.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fw267%2Flegendofthefallen%2F01.png&hash=03039a995b266ff1e291c75d96d38992c640e2a2)

I then played with the colours to try and Match the actual sprite set best I could, failing that I lightened them... And started moving over parts from the Original over my template (In this case Fighter01)

(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi178.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fw267%2Flegendofthefallen%2F02.png&hash=642ab2d55a1bfdfdfb4223ae853dc81f0182edae)

Body Part By Body part from the original to the template, each I re-scaled using Free Transformation, found under Image from the top tool bar

(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi178.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fw267%2Flegendofthefallen%2F03.png&hash=e6846da8e43817f69cd85b64bb0a61c1610f1ba9)

Until I had finished a Complete Row... Starting on the Left or Right set helps me, as once you have done one row, it's nice and easy to copy and past each frame for the Facing the other way... Meaning your Half done !!! (Phyicalogical thing)

I then move on to my Favourite row, the facing down... and simply do the same as I did for the other rows...

(Hint) - [Leaving the layers UN-Merged helps you can hold down Ctrl and click on various body parts all ready transformed and simply dupliacte the layer, and simply drag it to a new location]

(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi178.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fw267%2Flegendofthefallen%2F06.png&hash=d8ff126744fad9bd3d58ce103fa692f57e0ed1cc)

After you have done the facing down and side views, the walking up, is EASY... Same as the above really, copy paste, transform and sharpen if needed.

Once done save as PNG... and add weapons if you want !!!

(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi178.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fw267%2Flegendofthefallen%2FLOS-CrimsonHellKnight.png&hash=3b9639f00da6f3f8fe1dac7a281dbd4bba74d217) (https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi178.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fw267%2Flegendofthefallen%2FLOS-CrimsonHellKnightArmed.png&hash=866ebaf9526e825a4b8b398fa37eefe3d833f8cf)

Dollmage - This should be so easy for a spriter like you... Especially if you made those animations from scratch !!!

Good luck and I hope you like what I have done, it took me 2 Hours.



Title: Re: please make RTP walking character for this guys =(
Post by: Halestorm5 on May 26, 2007, 10:25:03 PM
O.o LoS... That looks... Impossible! I fell off my chair after seeing it! You may as well turn it into a tut XD
Title: Re: please make RTP walking character for this guys =(
Post by: landofshadows on May 27, 2007, 12:53:26 AM
LOL... There most probebly is easier ways of doing it... But that's the way I work... Clipping and cutting and editing... The only things I create from scratch are Icons.... Oh... And the Fish Car set I made... And the Dark twisted Gang... And a few other bits n Bob's, I have made from scratch...LOL
Title: Re: please make RTP walking character for this guys =(
Post by: dollmage on May 27, 2007, 04:00:19 AM
wicked :D ive gonna try and do the others ^_^ tnx for the tut and sprite los
Title: Re: please make RTP walking character for this guys =(
Post by: dollmage on May 27, 2007, 04:18:59 AM
Los im Los, xD can you do this bit by bit and turn it to a tut? i havent use Adobe Photoshop been using MSPAINT and Graphics Gale only =( my i borrowed one from my friend but........... To many stuff to click LOL can you clarify things on how you do it more clearly stepby step, like where to find say free transform like this

Edit>Free Transform

to go to recolore
Image>RPG then back to Image>Adjust>Selectable Color

tnx that would be alot of help ^_^
Title: Re: please make RTP walking character for this guys =(
Post by: Halestorm5 on May 27, 2007, 12:26:07 PM
If I do the axer, Ill need to know the template.

This one -
Spoiler for:
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg62.imageshack.us%2Fimg62%2F7628%2Fbigmale1hd.png&hash=024f3509b8e12a52848d420c1f4f940a9b4c3d8c)
Or this one -
Spoiler for:
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.alisachristopher.us%2Frmxp%2Fch%2FGiant.png&hash=983fd5fdf9e1180efff3bb1d89f82696bf2f73e1)

Ill use LoS's tut for it :)
Title: Re: please make RTP walking character for this guys =(
Post by: dollmage on May 27, 2007, 02:22:12 PM
use this one =) any one can teach me to use adobe photoshop ^_^ that would be a big help too ^_^ i wanna try dang
This one -
Spoiler for:
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg62.imageshack.us%2Fimg62%2F7628%2Fbigmale1hd.png&hash=024f3509b8e12a52848d420c1f4f940a9b4c3d8c)


Title: Re: please make RTP walking character for this guys =(
Post by: Halestorm5 on May 27, 2007, 05:26:17 PM
I don't have Photoshop so it wont be as detailed as Los's tho...

EDIT -
Ok, I did the front hairs. And I need to know if I should continue -
Spoiler for:
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi4.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy144%2FArmy100%2FExamples%2FDollmageThing.png&hash=c43a42e5488edcfce925753d3143864496901dbb)

The eyes will change :)
Title: Re: please make RTP walking character for this guys =(
Post by: landofshadows on May 27, 2007, 10:39:43 PM
You need a version without the stick infront of his face as a reference to work from... The Band around his hair is thicker than you have done... But it's still a good start.

Looking at these sprites and then looking at your request for help... Make me wonder how you managed to make these if you can't make simple walking sprite... The template you used "white ties"...?

If it's the template you showed early on of the naked dude with red hair... I can't see how you could make the running sprites and the bottom row on the below image without being SERIOUSLY skilled.... Are these Rips or edits...?

Using Grpahics Gale or MS Paint to make these, must be seriously hard... Would you mind making a tutorial on how you made them on the next one you do, may be the Assain sprite your now working on.... It would be good to see how you created such brilliant sprites.

I Know where you got parts from in the battle image below, like the rocks...

Spoiler for:
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi178.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fw267%2Flegendofthefallen%2FImage.png&hash=2086e12099ef68c92a9eb2ad953bb8a31094e723)

Any way use these battle sheet for the head.

(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi211.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fbb135%2Fzieg1516%2FGladiator_btl.png&hash=620110a5d20606c21589cd3b58b975ce869557c2)
Title: Re: please make RTP walking character for this guys =(
Post by: dollmage on May 28, 2007, 03:49:47 AM
yup i did use white ties as template,wait here is what you are asking for
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi211.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fbb135%2Fzieg1516%2FGladiatorchar_set.png&hash=08f555aaaaa143772102d891745d49ef1d40fbb9)
i tried to make this walking rtp type's but their too small >.< i tried the first time here is the first ever one that i made i know its horible *note i made this like last year -.- dunno the exact date doh my first ever try at making a sprite
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi211.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fbb135%2Fzieg1516%2Fziegfred.png&hash=4dbaa369ee11db65022177ebd69ca8e4b613285b)


and here is the franken i made
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi211.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fbb135%2Fzieg1516%2FNaiza_char.png&hash=fa5d354f51c48625b3dc35f6d3b4b0712db37cd5)

well before i make my characters i first draw them like this
Spoiler for:
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi211.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fbb135%2Fzieg1516%2Fheromale.jpg&hash=9a40057543265b4426cc78d12f0f5aedc947ffac)

Title: Re: please make RTP walking character for this guys =(
Post by: dollmage on May 28, 2007, 05:42:50 PM
(sorry to double post but i need to add this)

ok to prove to you that i suck at making walking RTP here is what i did just now
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi211.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fbb135%2Fzieg1516%2Farcher_under_making.png&hash=bc127a3a67e2d944545e0a594bfe129f71c5195b)

the first one looks ok =) i kinda like the way i made it,
its detailed but when i try to make it walk see the 2nd frame its just blek >.<  ;9
Title: Re: please make RTP walking character for this guys =(
Post by: Halestorm5 on May 28, 2007, 07:04:50 PM
Ya, know... I think I can work around that sprite. I just need the colour pallete! :D
Title: Re: please make RTP walking character for this guys =(
Post by: dollmage on May 29, 2007, 01:22:38 AM
working with RTP that is so small is kinda
1)anoying
2)time consuming
3)its a tad too small  :tpg:

hehe any way glad some of you guys are helping =)
Title: Re: please make RTP walking character for this guys =(
Post by: landofshadows on May 29, 2007, 08:17:48 AM
OK... I will make another one... What one do you want me to do ?

You have at least been trying... To be honest I like what you have done there, the face looks wicked, like the scare...

And I love your Battle sprites they kick arse !!!

Some thing I would like to do, is add the sprites I have made in my addon pack, I will recolour them, you don't mind do you ?
Title: Re: please make RTP walking character for this guys =(
Post by: dollmage on May 29, 2007, 08:50:12 AM
i dont mind ^_^ can you um continue the arhcer i made im not good with the walking part mainly coz its small >.<
hmm i could try the other sprites then you can continue them i dont mind if you add them on your pack i would be honored too ^_^ ill post somemore im gonna work on them now ^_^

sorry bout the edit added a new sprite ^_^
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi211.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fbb135%2Fzieg1516%2Fgladiator_walking.png&hash=d3fcc57834a72b92bd8f88f4c7a1af02f060dad2)
jan jararan ^_^ Gladiator the axe user hehe
^_^ is this ok too los? hope you like it hmmm i think im getting better at this still when i try to make it walk blek lol
Title: Re: please make RTP walking character for this guys =(
Post by: landofshadows on May 29, 2007, 09:25:12 AM
Here's my Re-colours I will add and I have made a Standard battler:-

(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi178.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fw267%2Flegendofthefallen%2FLOS-CrimsonHellKnight-1.png&hash=5b68fe28e079d5f59cd481d71e61dc871e283101) (https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi178.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fw267%2Flegendofthefallen%2FLOS-CrimsonHellKnightArmed-1.png&hash=8d1d0268c53e21e86644d536430d9b66699c6e4a)

(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi178.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fw267%2Flegendofthefallen%2FLOS-CrimsonHellKnightBattler.png&hash=2e315a58146226348854e6308aa56dc9c56e9c9d)

I will work on the Archer faorly soon.
Title: Re: please make RTP walking character for this guys =(
Post by: dollmage on May 29, 2007, 09:42:04 AM
cool ^_^ wish i know how to use PS dang are you using a pentablet los? if so what kind is it lot more easier than mouse?

im left handed when i hand draw... but when i draw using a mouse >.< no choice but to use the right........ get the point? its like eating your favorite food while using the wrong hand you are use too
Title: Re: please make RTP walking character for this guys =(
Post by: landofshadows on May 29, 2007, 10:11:42 AM
I use a mouse... And zoom right in and do little by little, I am better at small scale stuff rather than large... I seem to be the oppersite of you...LOL
Title: Re: please make RTP walking character for this guys =(
Post by: dollmage on May 29, 2007, 10:24:51 AM
hehehe, still 85 x 85 or 64 x 64 is still small (or should i say medium hehe)compared to the one who make's battlers

hmm ill try to make the other characters too still i cant make them walk good doh their like Blek lol

i like your rpt sprite the one that hang's the prisoner lol nasty
Title: Re: please make RTP walking character for this guys =(
Post by: landofshadows on May 29, 2007, 11:19:01 AM
Hi... I ried to make this sprite request... But on your battler images there is no view of the sprite from both sides... So I can't make it walking the other direction... It looks horrid...


Walking Left looks Great... Walking right, it looks like R2D2... Ugly !!!
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi178.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fw267%2Flegendofthefallen%2FLOS-Attempt.png&hash=0d45d9e5c38a1390a78532906084dbc32f137b30)

If you can make a battle sprite of this one facing the other way then i may be able to finish what I have started... But until then there is not enough reference material.

That's brilliant:-
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi211.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fbb135%2Fzieg1516%2Fgladiator_walking.png&hash=d3fcc57834a72b92bd8f88f4c7a1af02f060dad2)

You could no doubt finish what i have sarted above... you seem to be getting the hang of it now.
Title: Re: please make RTP walking character for this guys =(
Post by: dollmage on May 30, 2007, 01:02:20 PM
^_^ ok ill try to make the whole but... ive been busy this couple of days ill try to make the whole sprite tommorow
Title: Re: please make RTP walking character for this guys =(
Post by: landofshadows on May 30, 2007, 01:23:30 PM
Feel free to use my walking Left set... Sorry I couldn't finish it... The Sprite looks like a completely different sprite from the other side... Half Blue Half Black... Just looked shite when I tried to do it !!
Title: Re: please make RTP walking character for this guys =(
Post by: dollmage on May 30, 2007, 02:36:55 PM
its cool i realy like it and i apreciate the way you made it ^_^ and beside's i think im getting better @ doing this rtp walking things hehehehe



ill put resolved now tnx to LOS
Title: Re: [RESOLVED]please make RTP walking character for this guys =)
Post by: dollmage on June 01, 2007, 12:47:01 PM
here is the finish Archer =) hehehe
Spoiler for:
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and i also finish most of the walking rtp sprites for the my sideview battlers tnx los you improve my rtp spriting so much ^_^ ty, realy appreciate it dude