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Title: What is love? (Bobby don't hurt me)
Post by: yuyu! on July 21, 2015, 07:34:35 PM
Are you married or planing to get married? Hell no.

What's so bad about marriage? : (
Title: Re: What is love? (baby don't hurt me)
Post by: RedRaven on July 21, 2015, 07:56:25 PM
The divorce is damn expensive !
Title: Re: What is love? (baby don't hurt me)
Post by: yuyu! on July 21, 2015, 08:32:18 PM
huh...good answer :B

It's only the bad marriages that lead to divorce, though ;o Which is unfortunately about 70% of them ;9
Title: Re: What is love? (baby don't hurt me)
Post by: Sated on July 21, 2015, 09:20:21 PM
Marriage: A permanent committment to a temporary delusion.
Title: Re: What is love? (baby don't hurt me)
Post by: yuyu! on July 21, 2015, 09:54:30 PM
Marriage: A permanent committment to a temporary delusion.

That's an immensely negative statement. Love (and marriage) only fails when people misuse it. I see too many people complain about love while obsessing over how it never meets their expectations. Well, duuuh. It's a perfectly imperfect thing that requires the right blend of balance, sacrifice, and dedication.

No love is perfect, but two people can be committed and in love without being caught up in a "delusion". ;[
Title: Re: What is love? (baby don't hurt me)
Post by: Jules on July 21, 2015, 10:18:57 PM
Marriage: A permanent committment to a temporary delusion.

That's an immensely negative statement. Love (and marriage) only fails when people misuse it. I see too many people complain about love while obsessing over how it never meets their expectations. Well, duuuh. It's a perfectly imperfect thing that requires the right blend of balance, sacrifice, and dedication.

No love is perfect, but two people can be committed and in love without being caught up in a "delusion". ;[
Since I'm pretty sure I've been married longer than anyone else on RMRK (21 years in a couple of weeks) I speak from experience, and I whole heartedly agree with Yuyu.
Title: Re: What is love? (baby don't hurt me)
Post by: EvilM00s on July 21, 2015, 10:26:04 PM
Marriage isn't always wine and roses. Sometimes its beer and pizza, and a startling number of people see that as grounds for divorce.

Love waxes and wanes like the moon, but more often than not it comes around full tilt. That's why divorces hurt; SOMETHING remains. Sometimes its a shred of it's former self, sometimes its bigger. Only rarely do you hear "Aw man, I'm SO glad I'm going through a divorce" because it is just as rarely you find someone honestly that far out if love.

Where marriages fail is the commitment. So many times couples lie to themselves and say, "We did everything we could to save the marriage, but we were just too different." I contend at least 90% of those couples are full of bullshit.

When you get married you block the exits. The only way you ought to be leaving that commitment is deceased. Yes, divorce is better than being miserable, but how many couples have actually taken the time and used every resource at their disposal to keep it going?
Title: Re: What is love? (baby don't hurt me)
Post by: yuyu! on July 21, 2015, 10:36:29 PM
Confession: I was waiting for RMRK's mom and dad to share their comments on this! <3 :ladyj:

Since I'm pretty sure I've been married longer than anyone else on RMRK (21 years in a couple of weeks) I speak from experience, and I whole heartedly agree with Yuyu.

Awwww, happy almost anniversary! ^_^

Marriage isn't always wine and roses. Sometimes its beer and pizza, and a startling number of people see that as grounds for divorce.

Love waxes and wanes like the moon, but more often than not it comes around full tilt. That's why divorces hurt; SOMETHING remains. Sometimes its a shred of it's former self, sometimes its bigger. Only rarely do you hear "Aw man, I'm SO glad I'm going through a divorce" because it is just as rarely you find someone honestly that far out if love.

Where marriages fail is the commitment. So many times couples lie to themselves and say, "We did everything we could to save the marriage, but we were just too different." I contend at least 90% of those couples are full of bullshit.

When you get married you block the exits. The only way you ought to be leaving that commitment is deceased. Yes, divorce is better than being miserable, but how many couples have actually taken the time and used every resource at their disposal to keep it going?

I know I've only got about 3 years of experience on my love resume, but I agree with this! :) It really does seem like a lot of relationships fail because people either give up, shut out communication, or overly complicate things. Also, it seems like so many people tend to divert the focus from being their own fault - either it completely is or isn't. Which is silly...it takes two to tango!
Title: Re: What is love? (baby don't hurt me)
Post by: Jules on July 21, 2015, 10:52:11 PM
Marriage isn't always wine and roses. Sometimes its beer and pizza, and a startling number of people see that as grounds for divorce.

Love waxes and wanes like the moon, but more often than not it comes around full tilt. That's why divorces hurt; SOMETHING remains. Sometimes its a shred of it's former self, sometimes its bigger. Only rarely do you hear "Aw man, I'm SO glad I'm going through a divorce" because it is just as rarely you find someone honestly that far out if love.

Where marriages fail is the commitment. So many times couples lie to themselves and say, "We did everything we could to save the marriage, but we were just too different." I contend at least 90% of those couples are full of bullshit.

When you get married you block the exits. The only way you ought to be leaving that commitment is deceased. Yes, divorce is better than being miserable, but how many couples have actually taken the time and used every resource at their disposal to keep it going?

YES, YES, YES!

One of my favorite quotes:

A perfect marriage is two imperfect people who refuse to give up on each other.


I think that pretty well sums it up.

PS. I remember hearing once that marriage wasn't 50/50. It's more 90/10. Sometimes you're the 90, sometimes you're the 10.  That also makes perfect sense to me. 
Title: Re: What is love? (Bobby don't hurt me)
Post by: Roph on July 21, 2015, 11:20:19 PM
You're all soppy
Title: Re: What is love? (Bobby don't hurt me)
Post by: haloOfTheSun on July 21, 2015, 11:59:57 PM
what

It's only the bad marriages that lead to divorce, though ;o Which is unfortunately about 70% of them ;9

Whatever the actual statistic is, it's actually a bit misleading. If we go by your 70% as an example, that doesn't mean 70% of all people who get married get divorced. You have to keep in mind that a lot of people get married more than once and divorced more than once. So in the case of our example, 70% of marriages may end in divorce, but that does not mean that 70% of those people who got married are getting divorces. There are actually a lot of people who stay married for the remainder of their lives. The number of those people are decreasing, but the reasons for that gets into other areas such as morals and religion and then this topic would explode so I'll just leave it at that.

Marriage: A permanent committment to a temporary delusion.

While there are certainly plenty of couples who get married that should not, your post just makes you sound like someone who is jaded from being in relationships with people who have commitment issues instead of the witty and wise vibe you were going for.
Title: Re: What is love? (Bobby don't hurt me)
Post by: yuyu! on July 22, 2015, 12:49:13 AM
Whatever the actual statistic is, it's actually a bit misleading. If we go by your 70% as an example, that doesn't mean 70% of all people who get married get divorced. You have to keep in mind that a lot of people get married more than once and divorced more than once. So in the case of our example, 70% of marriages may end in divorce, but that does not mean that 70% of those people who got married are getting divorces. There are actually a lot of people who stay married for the remainder of their lives. The number of those people are decreasing, but the reasons for that gets into other areas such as morals and religion and then this topic would explode so I'll just leave it at that.

I was just making a random guess on the number, but I like your explanation. B)
Title: Re: What is love? (Bobby don't hurt me)
Post by: bluntsword on July 22, 2015, 01:55:45 AM
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1132.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fm567%2Fywanne%2FMawwiage_zps39be891d.gif&hash=56c224ce92eca0261ddde476c0b2a06fc554d247)

So last night our youngest baby was up at 12:30 and then again at 3:30. I have been gone all last week on a trip and so knew my wife was exhausted. Our little one has been doing this weird your regular sleeping thing for almost 2 weeks now. Typically I can handle less sleep that my wife, but at 4:30 this morning I was done.

Fortunately that's also when my wife was woke up. She relieve me and went to go calm our baby child.

I woke up two hours later, my wife telling me that our baby had gone back to sleep 30 minutes after she got up to take care of her. She had gone to the gym and back in that amount of time as well as made me an omelette.

We're both exhausted today, but no less in love then we were seven years ago when we decided to get married.

I'm currently watching said youngest while the big two are in bed and my wife is out on the town (aka her parents real quick and dollar general).

It's everyday looking out for the better of the other, knowing they're doing the same.

It sucks a lot.

But it's also really beautiful.
Title: Re: What is love? (Bobby don't hurt me)
Post by: yuyu! on July 22, 2015, 02:21:36 AM
Awwwww!! Your family is super adorable! :gracie:
Title: Re: What is love? (Bobby don't hurt me)
Post by: &&&&&&&&&&&&& on July 22, 2015, 02:44:26 AM
His family is text.
Title: Re: What is love? (Bobby don't hurt me)
Post by: yuyu! on July 22, 2015, 02:58:25 AM
I didn't mean the picture (that isn't working), I meant what he said :(
Title: Re: What is love? (Bobby don't hurt me)
Post by: RedRaven on July 22, 2015, 03:00:32 AM
What I see in all those comments is that you're confusing love and marriage. I don't like the marriage because it's an institution in which I can't believe and that I didn't need. But I can believe in a love you share for a long time (which is composed of a pinch of admiration, another pinch of trust and a big handful of compromises). And if you want to celebrate your love, you could without get married. Organise a big fest if you want, whatever ? The marriage doesn't have to be the only opportunity for you to celebrate your love.
Title: Re: What is love? (Bobby don't hurt me)
Post by: bluntsword on July 22, 2015, 03:10:59 AM
I may have to bow out at this point as my beliefs are markedly different being Christian.

But if you're willing to hear it I'm game to tell.
Title: Re: What is love? (Bobby don't hurt me)
Post by: yuyu! on July 22, 2015, 03:33:19 AM
What I see in all those comments is that you're confusing love and marriage.

For your comment, I was talking about marriage. :B The reason I started talking about love was this comment:

Marriage: A permanent committment to a temporary delusion.

I assumed he was talking about love when he said "a temporary delusion", but I may have misinterpreted that?
Title: Re: What is love? (Bobby don't hurt me)
Post by: pacdiggity on July 22, 2015, 06:25:20 AM
It's only the bad marriages that lead to divorce, though ;o Which is unfortunately about 70% of them ;9

hun, this is wildly inaccurate. less than 50%, yo. says to me that most people can hold it together. the world's not so bad!
Title: Re: What is love? (Bobby don't hurt me)
Post by: &&&&&&&&&&&&& on July 22, 2015, 06:32:00 AM
the world's not so bad!

What fantasy world do you live in?
I want to move there.
Title: Re: What is love? (Bobby don't hurt me)
Post by: pacdiggity on July 22, 2015, 06:35:03 AM
straya
Title: Re: What is love? (Bobby don't hurt me)
Post by: yuyu! on July 22, 2015, 06:36:28 AM
It's only the bad marriages that lead to divorce, though ;o Which is unfortunately about 70% of them ;9

hun, this is wildly inaccurate. less than 50%, yo. says to me that most people can hold it together. the world's not so bad!
I was just making a random guess on the number

 :mad:


dammit where is my shaking mad face?! it's gooooooooone ;-;
Title: Re: What is love? (Bobby don't hurt me)
Post by: yuyu! on July 22, 2015, 06:38:01 AM
I was actually exaggerating quite a bit on the number, I didn't quite think it was that high B(((
Title: Re: What is love? (Bobby don't hurt me)
Post by: yuyu! on July 22, 2015, 06:38:28 AM
trip

boe is that high >:v
Title: Re: What is love? (Bobby don't hurt me)
Post by: &&&&&&&&&&&&& on July 22, 2015, 07:38:20 AM
yeah im pretty high
Title: Re: What is love? (Bobby don't hurt me)
Post by: yuyu! on July 22, 2015, 07:48:14 AM
ur always pretty high :boe:
Title: Re: What is love? (Bobby don't hurt me)
Post by: bluntsword on July 22, 2015, 11:36:06 AM
Do 79% of yuyu' statistics get misinterpreted?
Title: Re: What is love? (Bobby don't hurt me)
Post by: EvilM00s on July 22, 2015, 01:02:36 PM
Only when she's high. ;)

I dont think marriage is for everyone. I myself like the idea; its saying to your partner "hey, you, I love you enough to give you all of my shit and remaining years." Not an institution to be entered into lightly, and I see many couples doing just that. Easily in, easily out. Well, emotionally, anyhow.

Asking someone to marry you should be the biggest deal of the relationship. If you cant commit to it, dont ask. I know couples who are perfectly happy waking up every day and saying "yeah, I'll stick around" without any further ado- and you know what? If that's what works, great! The bottom line is this: If you commit, see it through. If you cannot commit, if marriage is not your ultimate expression of love for another, don't try. Better to leave the relationship than to half-ass a lifetime connection that you know will ultimately fail for lack of devotion.
Title: Re: What is love? (Bobby don't hurt me)
Post by: yuyu! on July 22, 2015, 06:37:55 PM
Fact: The only time I've ever been high was from pain medication :B

I like what M00s has to say about marriage. B) It seems like too many people get married for the sake of getting married without necessarily considering the weight of it. I think it also takes a great deal of time and patience to get it right. I see a lot of females especially start freaking out as they approach their mid-20s and want to start rushing that stuff. ._.

Through my card readings, I've noticed that older people looking for love tend to approach things in a way that is much more promising. They're experienced and know what works and what doesn't work. B)
Title: Re: What is love? (Bobby don't hurt me)
Post by: Acolyte on July 23, 2015, 01:33:32 AM
What I see in all those comments is that you're confusing love and marriage. I don't like the marriage because it's an institution in which I can't believe and that I didn't need. But I can believe in a love you share for a long time (which is composed of a pinch of admiration, another pinch of trust and a big handful of compromises). And if you want to celebrate your love, you could without get married. Organise a big fest if you want, whatever ? The marriage doesn't have to be the only opportunity for you to celebrate your love.

The way I see it, if you're in a loving and committed relationship, there's no reason not to get married.
Some people see it as just an overblown religious ceremony, but honestly it's more of a legal thing nowadays. It allows you to have certain rights, such as the ability to make medical decisions for your partner in cases where the partner cannot, and the rights to certain joint benefits where applicable (Military benefits, social security etc.). This is partially why the gay community fought so hard for marriage, as opposed to "domestic partnership" as many of these benefits were not universally recognized under civil unions.

Also, there's nothing stopping people from going to the courthouse and getting a marriage license. You don't need a $100k+ wedding to be married.
Title: Re: What is love? (Bobby don't hurt me)
Post by: haloOfTheSun on July 23, 2015, 01:48:23 AM
What I see in all those comments is that you're confusing love and marriage. I don't like the marriage because it's an institution in which I can't believe and that I didn't need. But I can believe in a love you share for a long time (which is composed of a pinch of admiration, another pinch of trust and a big handful of compromises). And if you want to celebrate your love, you could without get married. Organise a big fest if you want, whatever ? The marriage doesn't have to be the only opportunity for you to celebrate your love.

The way I see it, if you're in a loving and committed relationship, there's no reason not to get married.
Some people see it as just an overblown religious ceremony, but honestly it's more of a legal thing nowadays. It allows you to have certain rights, such as the ability to make medical decisions for your partner in cases where the partner cannot, and the rights to certain joint benefits where applicable (Military benefits, social security etc.). This is partially why the gay community fought so hard for marriage, as opposed to "domestic partnership" as many of these benefits were not universally recognized under civil unions.

Also, there's nothing stopping people from going to the courthouse and getting a marriage license. You don't need a $100k+ wedding to be married.

This. Also tax breaks. (May vary by state)