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Title: Discussion on RPGMaker Games (what do you hate most...)
Post by: Chaoslogic on May 17, 2008, 05:27:38 AM

I'm thinking of making an rpg at some point, and I'd like to know what are the worst things in rpgmaker games. What's overdone in rpgmaker games. What do you hate? Music. Characters. Plot points. Battle Systems. Party Characters. Sidequests. Etc etc.

Please don't leave a typical response, like, "Anything involving 4 magic items (jewels, crystals, swords, wisemen of the 4 winds, etc)" or "Dragonball Z / Naruto rpgs", or "Final Fantasy XXIV" responses. They're vague and unhelpful. Please be specific.

Just doing some research =)

Thanks.

I guess I'll start. I hate how every villain wants to become a god. Then after becoming a god, they are killed by a breakable peice of steel.

Title: Re: Discussion on RPGMaker Games (what do you hate most...)
Post by: Pathbinder on May 17, 2008, 05:36:53 AM

I hate most RPGs with random encounters, especially if the frequency is set too high.

Title: Re: Discussion on RPGMaker Games (what do you hate most...)
Post by: Esmeralda on May 17, 2008, 05:40:41 AM

I agree with Pathbinder. Lots of Maker-games have loooong and tedious dungeons with battles every 10 steps. Stuff like that is fucking awful, never strive for that. And illogical and tedious puzzles are annoying too. You'll have to figure out what that one means by yourself though :3

Title: Re: Discussion on RPGMaker Games (what do you hate most...)
Post by: Chaoslogic on May 17, 2008, 06:30:34 AM

Breath of Fire II was notoriously bad for bad encounters.

Title: Re: Discussion on RPGMaker Games (what do you hate most...)
Post by: droginator on May 17, 2008, 04:47:11 PM

Hmm... I guess I' have to say how tedious it gets having to walk around forever training when you're stuck at a boss or something.

Or, in other words, training takes too long.

Title: Re: Discussion on RPGMaker Games (what do you hate most...)
Post by: Chaoslogic on May 19, 2008, 12:55:56 AM

I dislike the recurring theme that Religion is evil.

Title: Re: Discussion on RPGMaker Games (what do you hate most...)
Post by: droginator on May 19, 2008, 01:06:17 AM

Lol. The only 2 games I can think of (at the moment) that are like that are:

Tales of Symphonia

Spoiler for:

Lol, you end up fighting angels. And the Church of Martel (the main church) turns out to have a secret plot to resurrect the goddess Martel.
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fen%2F2%2F2a%2FMithos_Angelic_Form.jpg&hash=909b633ff43d67097782119ad054f30aea78af3e)

Tales of the Abyss

Spoiler for:

The Order of Lorelei (the main religious body in the game) has 6 "God-generals", who help the game's main antagonist Van (a Dorian General, who basically leads the God-generals) achieve his goal, which ultimately leads up to him trying to destroy all residents of the world.

Title: Re: Discussion on RPGMaker Games (what do you hate most...)
Post by: Chaoslogic on May 19, 2008, 03:57:38 AM

Breath of Fire II:

Spoiler for:

The traditional "dragon" faith is abandoned for a newer widespread religion, whose god turns out to be the devil.

Xenogears:

Spoiler for:

The Ethos Church was part of a bigger lie to control the public.

Xenosaga:

Spoiler for:

The Roman Catholic Church is evil. In the second game, the final boss is the Pope.

Final Fantasy 10

Spoiler for:

The Yevon Church was a system of control.

Final Fantasy: Tactics

Spoiler for:

Ivalice's religion is evil. The game's Christ-figure turns out to be evil. You fight him/her in hell as the last boss.

Title: Re: Discussion on RPGMaker Games (what do you hate most...)
Post by: ceegamus on May 24, 2008, 04:24:41 AM

You know, it's prolly a recurring theme because it is at least somewhat true.   ;D

Religion has caused more problems than it's ever solved.

Title: Re: Discussion on RPGMaker Games (what do you hate most...)
Post by: Chaoslogic on May 24, 2008, 08:32:37 AM

Bump.

What does everyone hate about rpgmaker games?

(I thought people would have more to complain about...).

Title: Re: Discussion on RPGMaker Games (what do you hate most...)
Post by: SexualBubblegumX on May 25, 2008, 02:28:26 AM

Characters named Arshes.

Title: Re: Discussion on RPGMaker Games (what do you hate most...)
Post by: Arwym on May 31, 2008, 09:26:18 PM

The infinite amount of typographical and grammatical horrors.

Title: Re: Discussion on RPGMaker Games (what do you hate most...)
Post by: Leventhan on June 01, 2008, 05:29:15 AM

Default windowskin.

Title: Re: Discussion on RPGMaker Games (what do you hate most...)
Post by: ahref on June 01, 2008, 09:20:29 PM

no your character cannot save the world thats what annoys me most.

apart from that avoid:
Dictators for friendly npcs(HEY BOB GO DO THIS WHILE I DO NOTHING)

Title: Re: Discussion on RPGMaker Games (what do you hate most...)
Post by: SexualBubblegumX on June 02, 2008, 03:34:40 AM

Still, Charcters named Arshes.

Title: Re: Discussion on RPGMaker Games (what do you hate most...)
Post by: .:Pyroken Serafoculus:. on June 27, 2008, 12:29:26 PM

Christian references. Evil angels, evil demons for that matter, gratuitous Bible quotations. I did this one in an attempt to make my game cool, and I try not to look back on that incident.

Title: Re: Discussion on RPGMaker Games (what do you hate most...)
Post by: dylman06 on June 27, 2008, 06:25:42 PM

when people leave the tilesets the same for every map,  and make a world map out of the same tileset...

Title: Re: Discussion on RPGMaker Games (what do you hate most...)
Post by: droginator on June 28, 2008, 04:07:12 AM

Quote from: dylman06 on June 27, 2008, 06:25:42 PM

when people leave the tilesets the same for every map,  and make a world map out of the same tileset...

I don't think I've seen anything like that, but it'd be kinda hard to do an entire game using just the Grassland tileset in RMXP, when the only building choice there is is a tent. ;8

Title: Re: Discussion on RPGMaker Games (what do you hate most...)
Post by: lost on June 28, 2008, 01:52:02 PM

Too many random encounters once every 5 steps. Random battles that last 5 minutes a piece. Spikey haired protagonists that are loners but get paired with 3 friends. The side battle system is overrated. Impossible boss characters. Lack of save points, or once you save you are too weak to continue so you must restart.

Quote from: Chaoslogic on May 17, 2008, 05:27:38 AM

I'm thinking of making an rpg at some point, and I'd like to know what are the worst things in rpgmaker games. What's overdone in rpgmaker games. What do you hate? Music. Characters. Plot points. Battle Systems. Party Characters. Sidequests. Etc etc.

Please don't leave a typical response, like, "Anything involving 4 magic items (jewels, crystals, swords, wisemen of the 4 winds, etc)" or "Dragonball Z / Naruto rpgs", or "Final Fantasy XXIV" responses. They're vague and unhelpful. Please be specific.

Just doing some research =)

Thanks.

I guess I'll start. I hate how every villain wants to become a god. Then after becoming a god, they are killed by a breakable peice of steel.

Title: Re: Discussion on RPGMaker Games (what do you hate most...)
Post by: Karo Rushe on June 28, 2008, 06:17:06 PM

Cliche Storylines . . . .

Title: Re: Discussion on RPGMaker Games (what do you hate most...)
Post by: Tentecles on August 13, 2008, 04:01:57 AM

     I hate it when they make Random Encountersto Easy, and th suddently throw an impossible boss at you.