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Other Game Creation => Game Creation General Chat => Topic started by: Sthrattoff on October 29, 2006, 08:02:35 PM
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Or just post any story plot you like!
Here, of course...
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FF4 and FF9 are the best final fantasy because of the time period. And they have fantasy. FF8 was dumb because they made it all sci-fi future stuff. So was 7.
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Personally, I like a good mystery, with Romance, Humour, and Quick Adventure scenes thrown into the mix.
-Astro
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I like stuff that's very dramatic, but not cheesey. Usually good if it involves the good/bad sides of religion, and ESPECIALLY tasty if the main character winds up dead.
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Depending on how I'm feeling, I'll either want to play something that is so incredibly deep and compelling that you have to spend hours sorting out all of the incredible complications, or something so simple and straightforward that it's sweet (I had to stop myself from saying "short and sweet," because straightforwardness does not necessarily mean less gameplay *points to Dragon Warrior 3*).
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I like stories with a good plott, not too serious all the way through, some comedy sequeezed inbetween but not to the point where it's labeled as a 'comedy'. I like drama and heart-breaking endings. Or, those endings that make you think on it for a month or longer. I also like endings where it hints a lot towards a sequel or something of the sort. Dramatic and comedic for me.
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Oh, yeah, humor is a necessary component of a good game. Or, being able to derive humor where none was intended. "ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US NOW"
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Aye, I didn't give mine...
I like a story with complexity about "what is human, and life itself?"
And International conflict...
With a little of romance sauce....
And a lot of action... Of course.
Oh, and with a setting of mixed fantasy and real world.
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Aye, I didn't give mine...
I like a story with complexity about "what is human, and life itself?"
And International conflict...
With a little of romance sauce....
And a lot of action... Of course.
Oh, and with a setting of mixed fantasy and real world.
Yeah, that sounds good. Romance is a key element in games for me. Take Final Fantasy X, for instance, Yuna and Tidus had a good romance. Sora and Kairi from Kingdom Hearts- many others as well.
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I believe that romance is a negative factor in gameplay. It's way, way overused, and shouldn't be used as a central plot device. Especially when the entire basis of the villain's actions are to win the love of someone. Bleh.
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i personally like sci-fi, since thats not an option i choose fantasy since its close and sometimes the same...
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That's why I use romance as a sauce...
Not as the main factor of the storyline.
'cause I didn't understand what is love anyway...
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I like them all - mixed, because nothing is good if it's overused... But if I had t pick one it would be fantasy - I simply like when I can do something that doesn't have to be logical for modern science
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I like them all (if we delete the romance part ;))
-Orakk
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Yesss, finally. But yeah, a little of each genre should be used... in moderation.
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A great story has all of the elements you are polling on. Think about Saving Private Ryan. That had everything... except romance, instead it had male bonding.
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As you wish...
I've removed the romance option and...
Read the poll again, I made some new choices.
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Agh, you and your.... ambiguous choices...
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I believe that romance is a negative factor in gameplay. It's way, way overused, and shouldn't be used as a central plot device. Especially when the entire basis of the villain's actions are to win the love of someone. Bleh.
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i like comedy, wether game or movie.
i also like mysterious
romance..well its not good in a GAME
well i would play any game as long as its GOOD
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FF4 and FF9 are the best final fantasy because of the time period. And they have fantasy. FF8 was dumb because they made it all sci-fi future stuff. So was 7.
Thanks to this post, I hate you more than ever. Not because you don't like ff8, but because you don't like it because of its time period. You don't deserve videogames.
I like epic heroism to slowly blossom forth from the main character, with a hint of romance. The more tragic, the better.
As far as time period goes, I really don't think it matters at all, as long as the story's good. Who cares what time period it's in?
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I like when game has romance with slight erotic in it. It helps to make our protagonists more deep, not just some heroes that want to save the world, but persons with complex psychology and intense emotions. And sad-endings... well it doesn't need to be sad end, but I like when game story is shocking and unpredictable, and that is mostly done in negative rather than positive way. Dark and serious, but in the other hand needs to have it's comic moments. Easter-eggs are fine with me too.
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Every decent video game needs one awesomely amazing character who helps out the heroes - but only when they're in an incredibly tight pinch! Throughout the course of the game, the player needs to anticipate the point when said character will actually join the party. Unfortunately, the character never actually joins, but that leaves lots of room for bad fanfiction. And what would a great side-character be without bad fanfiction? Nothin'.
I like when game has romance with slight erotic in it.
omg, I do everything within my power to avoid games with erotic themes, even if it's not a major proponent of the plot. That definitely gets a big "doubleyoo-tee-eff!!" in my mind.
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*CLAPS!*
Oh my GOD I laughed so hard! I totally agree with EVERYTHING you just said!
And what would a great side-character be without bad fanfiction? Nothin'.
You need to put that in your sig!
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Do any games have only one of what was listed? most games have elements of at least two.
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Depending on how I'm feeling, I'll either want to play something that is so incredibly deep and compelling that you have to spend hours sorting out all of the incredible complications, or something so simple and straightforward that it's sweet (I had to stop myself from saying "short and sweet," because straightforwardness does not necessarily mean less gameplay *points to Dragon Warrior 3*).
i loved dragon warrior 3 for that straight forwardness :-) it was a FUN game to play as opposed to Final fantasy which felt more like a chore to play.
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*CLAPS!*
Oh my GOD I laughed so hard! I totally agree with EVERYTHING you just said!
And what would a great side-character be without bad fanfiction? Nothin'.
You need to put that in your sig!
Woot, I am <3'd. Maybe we really do need a Quote of the Week, or something.
...Can anyone point me in the direction of a fanfic starring the Wonder Chef, from Tales of Symphonia? 'Cause man, he's awesome.
Do any games have only one of what was listed? most games have elements of at least two.
That's precisely what I was talking about in a previous post:
Agh, you and your.... ambiguous choices...
Sthrattoff has used combined categories of plot and setting, as if they were differing genres of story. It is possible for a game to be both science-fiction in nature and heroic.
Actually, I've never played a video game of any genre that didn't include any manner of heroism.
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man, I didin't even read the second page, lol, i guess I jumped to click reply and get my thougts out when they were already said. ;D
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You haven't played Tetris? Or Super Tennis?
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You know what else I like in, well, any kind of story? Crazy bizarre sci-fi psychological/dementia type shit. I love seeing characters lose their mind and slowly turn insane.
Clearly, I'm a fan of Evangelion.
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RIGHT HERE MANG.
Thing is, I only got to watch bits and pieces of it, cuz blockbuster sucks. NEEDS MOAR INTERNETS. Probably do it this summer.
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Neon Genesis Evangelion was awesome. I also agree that a shocking ending may serve a good purpose. Also having heroes with a deep psyche is very interesting to me. I like heroes who tend to do psyche self-analysis.
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Yes, but psyche and self-analysis are different from eroticism, which is what Corvus Sangreal seemed to be saying.
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Hehe, I have not said that it all must be connected with erotics. Perhaps I put it wrong, when saying that about erotics in first sentence. It is only one of possible aspects for deepening psyche. I actually specially mentioned that because of poll's option - romance. And romance without little erotics in it is too dreamy and unrealistic for me, but opinions on that can vary of course. Self-analysis is great to familiarize chars with player, that way story will be more intriguing, and player will become attached, wanting to know more about what happens to this party, because if you are good in story writing, player will probably emotionally attach to them. Like in dnd, it is always more interesting and fun to play with players that made good job on their char's psyche, and if they really play like it.
Term eroticism for me is in the first place art. To make someone sexually aroused (with your clothes on, other than that it is mostly pornography) you can use special motions, words (mostly ambiguous) and such to invoke in someone desire, emotions, passion... It gives real power to romance. Because romance for itself is too dreamy, and some people will find aversion for it. Personally I like it, and most of my poetry is romantic. But never forget the power of sexuality for humans. Sex is the mankind's best way of pleasure. I understand that most of this forum consists of people younger than 16/17, so you probably won't be much impressed and/or introduced with artistic side of sexuality.
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All good video games need humor... if I'm not laughing, or at least smiling, I'm not enjoying.
Still looking for a fanfiction starring the Wonder Chef.
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All good video games need humor... if I'm not laughing, or at least smiling, I'm not enjoying.
Still looking for a fanfiction starring the Wonder Chef.
what if your laughing at how bad their mapping is..or how bad the game is
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That can be fun, too.
Have you ever played a game where the dialogue is seriously written in chatspeak? With the characters and stuff saying
"ill dstroy u!!!!"
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HAHA. *starts writing name to second game 'Chatspeek' The game of RTP and bad writing*
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I guess some of you have played a game that had it all, romance, an average part of funny situations, pretty good story and all of that mixed in a way not to spoil the original pretty much "serious" gameplay? The name of the beast... Tales Of Phantasia, 4 Nintendo?
The guys and girls who wrote dialogs went even into something i had not yet encountered; at one point during a travel with a ship, the guy in your party asks you something like "ummm, she has a such good *CENSORED*, she probably also has a very sweet pu*CENSORED*..." well, until that scene i was assured that the game is without any funny elements...
MY OPINION (who cares!!) THAT A GOOD GAME HAS:
60% Serious Gameplay
20% Shocking Elements
10% Funny
(I doubt that a hero whose life is on stake smiles when fighting a dragon)
10% Romance
(And i doubt he gets "horny" when killing Goblins, or maybe he does?)
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Hey!
Who said the NG Evangelion things here??
I
Very Like it! Concept of my project's story mostly based on it.
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10% Romance
(And i doubt he gets "horny" when killing Goblins, or maybe he does?)
The game, The RPG game, is not all about killing goblins. That would be hack and slash game.
I mean, what freak of nature your char must be that his only joy is killing goblins??
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Goblin was just and example,
well in D&D we have Dragon Slayers, whose only joy is to kill dragons.
Sex, Drugs and some Dragoon'ass whoopin!
I believe too much romance can truly spoil a game,
but we have some games which revolve all the time around
romance but still manage to provide excellent and unsurpassed gameplay.
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I keep thinking your name says 'Amon Amerth"...the band
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I keep thinking your name says 'Amon Amerth"...the band
I WILL DEFINETELY CHANGE MY NAME ! :)
8) 8) 8)
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I keep thinking your name says 'Amon Amerth"...the band
I WILL DEFINETELY CHANGE MY NAME ! :)
8) 8) 8)
lol...woops I ment 'amon amarth' i even spelt it wrong
band is named after a mountain that is called '"Mount Doom"
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Nope, dunno. Sorry, never heard of that, (the band - not mnt. doom)
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ooo...ya Iguess alot of people wouldn't....there melo-death metal
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Which of course does not mean i won't try listening to 'em.. WinMX Lives again !
:)
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The guys and girls who wrote dialogs went even into something i had not yet encountered; at one point during a travel with a ship, the guy in your party asks you something like "ummm, she has a such good *CENSORED*, she probably also has a very sweet pu*CENSORED*..." well, until that scene i was assured that the game is without any funny elements...
The translators of the DeJap release of Tales of Phantasia have admitted that they exaggerated much of the dialogue, and most of the "suggestive" conversations never actually occured in the actual game.
Just putting that out there. ;D
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Well, anyways it was a good game!
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Yeah...not the BEST tales game though. I think Symphonia is the best that I have played so far ( and I don't own it...my fried does. However, I played along to, as Genis and Rayne (?) so it was fun.)
I like Fantasy/romance/ serious stories. I'm not the one who goes for humor-filled games.
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The only games that I've ever played that have every aspect of gaming that I look for (expertly-written dialogue, healthy humor, deep/unique storyline, believeable/awesome characters, and fun-fun-fun gameplay) are Zelda: Majora's Mask and a little-known RPG on the Game Boy Color titled Magi-Nation. Freakin' greatest games ever.
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I liked the plot in Kingdom Hearts, it was easy to follow. I also liked the plot in FFX, I actually was addicted to that game (My first FF played), FFVIII was confusing, the reading got my eyes tired, Bomberman world was heaps of fun, full of bright colors and heaps of suspense, but the story line is really original but it alright. Devil May Cry 1 was good, but short and last but no least, all the anime and manga series I have watched/read till episode/volume 2 were good.
~Winged
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Sonic and Mario=no good
hardly a storyline..just stoping eggman or bowser from taking over the world or castle
now DBZ(Dragonball Z) has a great sotryline...stoping evil to save the earth and dealing with some everyday stuff
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I like story lines that are completely different from what you expect... like this one game my older sister made... it was awesome, she made it out that the main character and his friends were going to reunite their nation with three other nations. In the end, a great war broke out. The main character went to each of the nations and stole something precious from each of the rulers. And he had this whole speach for when the rulers came to get their precious items, but totally blew the speech. In the end, he was hanged for treason against the three nations, and though the three items (which were actually two 21 year old girls and a 13 year old boy) were returned to their homes, no peace came to the nations. In the fourth nation's (the mages/elves) desperate attempt for peace, they created a race called 'humans' which were kind creatures. They hoped these humans to bring peace, but instead the other nations resented and tried to destroy them.
That's the end of the game 'Precious Peace', but a prequel to her game she's working on now, 'Birth of Legend'
Anyway, it's a plot you don't see too often... main character getting killed and screwing everything up worse... it was kinda a twist, sorta, and I liked it.
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This is what I belive makes a great game.
1. Memorable PCs.
2. A villian who is unique... Hey sorry guys, I think Sephiroth was totally generic.
3. At least one thing that pushes the limits of whats acceptable.
4. A constant underlying theme, E.G. When does the line between right and wrong blur... Or something.
5.The setting, characters and villian need to fit together.
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Sonic and Mario=no good
MARIO 64 IS THE BEST GAME EVER MADE PERIOD.
lol it really is
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Hey, I played Secret of Mana (Seiken Densetsu 2) for the first time about a week ago... and I just have to wonder...
Did Tales of Symphonia steal their entire plot from Secret of Mana?!
I think... anyone who has played both games will know exactly what I'm talking about...
For the record, Yggdrasil was a sucktastic villain. While far from generic, his whole motive for ...being evil... was just way lame.
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Yggdrasil is the world tree, Yossy. It connects all planes of exsistance. They just bastardized a part of my religion, that's all.
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I know all that, but Yggdrasil was also the name of the villain in ToS. They pronounced his name wrong, too. Actually, every character pronounced his name differently, which is even more pathetic because not even one of them got it right.
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Hey, I played Secret of Mana (Seiken Densetsu 2) for the first time about a week ago... and I just have to wonder...
Did Tales of Symphonia steal their entire plot from Secret of Mana?!
I think... anyone who has played both games will know exactly what I'm talking about...
For the record, Yggdrasil was a sucktastic villain. While far from generic, his whole motive for ...being evil... was just way lame.
Actually Secret of Mana originated with Final Fantasy Legend. Both are very good games!
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I'd have to say I like a good Fantasy with a classic story, like Kingdom Hearts, who ever knew such a used storyboard could make a great game.
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Don't get down one me man, FF8 might have been too sci-fi for you, but you have to admit..... The plot of the game was good. It had a lot of twists in it, and the gameplay was fun as ever. But in my opinion, FF X was the greatest Final Fantasy Simply for all the new features and graphics, that goe along with a dynamite storie and traditionally, plenty of playable characters.
PS: FF7 was the greatest of it's time, but it's time to let go..... Nah, It's always gonna be the best FF ;D Sephiroth, I mean c'mon do i need to say more?
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No. You need not say more. We need no more Sephiroth. Hojo & Jenova were THE best IMO. The end :)
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Sephiroth fears Kefka. End of story.
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Hmmm i love games that have a bit of everything. Humor is important!
I like that when the heroes are trying to sneak into the bad guys base, one of them starts shouting "WAHAHAHA! YOU CANNOT DEFEAT ME BECAUSE I'M PSYCHODUDE!" out loud and suddenly a guard comes and they are caught. "Look at the bright side! We get free cookies!"
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Free cookies. :tpg:
That's an awesome first post. Welcome to the forums!
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If anyone has played Kingdom Hearts, the first one, I say that game had the best story plot ever. Not the part where ur going to disney worlds. But the fact that you, your best friend, and ur Girlfriend all get seperated (on different worlds) and desperately search for each other makes for a great game. Then to top it off, you have to lose one friend in order to save the world, yet you still can't go back to your home world to be with ur girlfriend. A lose lose situation. The plot was phenominal if you ask me. But that's just me!!
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For me, best thing is...
My story!
Long and Complicated...
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Well I hate the old before cars type stuff. im not a fan of space storys either. i like mine to be somewhere between 1800-2200. As for romance, most games just do it wrong. its not realistic. In real life I'm and underground pick-up artist, so i know exactly what to do to get a girl and lose a girl under most situations. in most games the main character does the exact OPPISITE of what would attract a woman -their insecure, they compliment her, they puther on a pedistal, buy her gifts,call her beautiful, treat her like a princess" which is the oppisite of what attracts a good looking girl. so basically if games have this horrible romance that is very unbelievable, i dont play them. now if they have realist romances, kinda like ashe sorta liking balthier in ff12, thats realistic. i like that. I hate having a "must find and kill the main bad guy" type of game. it makes the game seem like you just wondering around buying time until the final battle with the villian. i like ff8 alot so storys like that where you dont know how the gamaes going to end. all the .hack have great storylins too. anything where you dont know whats going to happen. oh and they gotta be philsophical and question what is human or the meaning of life. and its good if your not sure if your the bad guy or the villian is. you could both be fighting to improve the world, but yoru views clash. hell im going to be a writer someday -part time pick up artist- and i ask myself when playing a game "If this were a book would i actually read it?"
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me i like a good long story line, and with LOTS of battles big bosses, and puzzles lot and lots of puzzles, and good story line. for me if the story line is awesome i will play it(any FF)
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Yes, storyline and music make the game! Thats why I didn't like 12. it was by far the longest FF so far, but when i finished it with like 130 hours it felt like a shot game, because there were only a few scenes and bits of storyline in the game, it was mostly dungeons, getting from area to area, and monster killing, but nobody remembers that sort of stuff.