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Other Game Creation => Program Troubleshooting => Topic started by: .:Pyroken Serafoculus:. on February 02, 2007, 09:51:12 AM

Title: RMXP's been stealing...
Post by: .:Pyroken Serafoculus:. on February 02, 2007, 09:51:12 AM
Almost all the Positive BGMs from the RMXP RTP are just revamped versions of songs from other RPGs. Positive02 is really a song from Zelda (the one with the shrinking hat, can't remember the name), and Positive03 is a very nice song taken from a Route in a Pokèmon game. I'm sure there are other stolen songs in there as well...

Anyone recognize another song from the RTP that isn't made by the producers?
Title: Re: RMXP's been stealing...
Post by: Christina on February 02, 2007, 02:21:45 PM
hmm thats interesting... i havent noticed really, maybe they sound familiar but im too lazy to really look into it
maybe i will... :o
Title: Re: RMXP's been stealing...
Post by: Blizzard on February 02, 2007, 02:23:30 PM
Are you 100% sure? I mean, the BGMs ARE very similar, but stealing...?
Title: Re: RMXP's been stealing...
Post by: Degree on February 02, 2007, 09:59:12 PM
Yeah, you're right. They do sound similar.. but I don't think they're stolen.

They don't seem to be note for note.
Title: Re: RMXP's been stealing...
Post by: SexualBubblegumX on February 03, 2007, 01:22:28 AM
Considering Enterbrain hasn't gotten sued. The songs most likely aren't ganked, just similar.
Title: Re: RMXP's been stealing...
Post by: .:Pyroken Serafoculus:. on February 03, 2007, 03:23:52 PM
Maybe not note for note, but they haven't edited very much. In Positive03, all they did was add louder percussion, now that I take a better look.
Title: Re: RMXP's been stealing...
Post by: Blizzard on February 03, 2007, 04:55:39 PM
Although, they might not even have done anything wrong. If I'm not wrong, the RTP is free and can't be sold. If they have just edited music, they can't sell it themselves. You can't even include the RTP in your game if you are going to sell it I think. Or you need to state clearly that it is free and can also be downloaded from Enterbrain's site. I'm not sure, although.
Title: Re: RMXP's been stealing...
Post by: Punk on February 03, 2007, 05:44:23 PM
One of the song that were in the RTP Music reminds me of Chrono Trigger.
Title: Re: RMXP's been stealing...
Post by: Tsunokiette on February 03, 2007, 06:17:15 PM
To defend composers everywhere. (even though it is likely that these are just rips)

It's impossible to come up with something completely original... well, for most people.

If it's completely original, most of the time our brain will clash with it saying "I've never heard something like that, it sounds like crap", so you end up using some bits you've heard from other songs.
Title: Re: RMXP's been stealing...
Post by: Blizzard on February 03, 2007, 06:20:21 PM
Yeah. He's right. I know it from own experience.

Offtopic:

One of the song that were in the RTP Music reminds me of Chrono Trigger.

I <3 your sig.
Title: Re: RMXP's been stealing...
Post by: Kan on February 03, 2007, 07:22:14 PM
Theme2 is off of FF1

Edit:  Heck, everyone of the themes ripped.
Title: Re: RMXP's been stealing...
Post by: SexualBubblegumX on February 04, 2007, 02:22:43 AM
I need to check now. Because it boggles my mind how enterbrain could gank stuff and not get their asses sued.
Title: Re: RMXP's been stealing...
Post by: .:Pyroken Serafoculus:. on February 04, 2007, 03:54:36 PM
True, Tsunokiette, but most composers try to be somewhat different when they compose. These songs, however... The main gists of the songs are exactly the same as their RPG counterparts.
Title: Re: RMXP's been stealing...
Post by: Chiakumu on February 05, 2007, 11:24:08 AM
There are quite a few tunes that come from Final Fantasy, but none of them are actually close enough to the real thing to be classed as the real thing.
Title: Re: RMXP's been stealing...
Post by: .:Pyroken Serafoculus:. on February 05, 2007, 11:35:26 AM
Well, the Zelda and Pokemon songs are only a few notes different. I'm almsot sure Positive02 is straight from the credits of Zelda: The Minish Cap.
Title: Re: RMXP's been stealing...
Post by: Chiakumu on February 05, 2007, 11:48:45 AM
Um, I have no idea, the last time I have never played Zelda or Pokemon
Title: Re: RMXP's been stealing...
Post by: Snailer on February 05, 2007, 11:50:19 AM
I have minish cap but i dont remember the song =/

Maybe ur right maybe ur wrong ill listen ^^
Title: Re: RMXP's been stealing...
Post by: SexualBubblegumX on February 06, 2007, 02:05:40 AM
I still keep forgetting to check >.<
Title: Re: RMXP's been stealing...
Post by: GAX on February 06, 2007, 06:07:43 AM
Almost all the Positive BGMs from the RMXP RTP are just revamped versions of songs from other RPGs. Positive02 is really a song from Zelda (the one with the shrinking hat, can't remember the name), and Positive03 is a very nice song taken from a Route in a Pokèmon game. I'm sure there are other stolen songs in there as well...

Anyone recognize another song from the RTP that isn't made by the producers?

Well, I recognize the Positive 2 as a simmilar to the song you hear in one of the mountain areas of Minish Cap, but they are kinda different (Fanboy's got the cartridge ^^)

Positive 3 actually doesn't sound like Pokemon, but actually like the Airship theme used in MANY Final Fantasy Games, but it is not exact.

It is possible they used some of the tune from each, but there are differences in each that are enough to keep them safe.
Title: Re: RMXP's been stealing...
Post by: Kan on April 22, 2007, 04:43:27 AM
Yeah, I gotta agree with Positive3 being FF, but it sounds like FF6's Airship Music more than any other FFs.
Also, I think LastBoss3 is Chrono Triggers FinalBoss (the THIRD form)
Title: Re: RMXP's been stealing...
Post by: magic2345 on April 22, 2007, 07:06:20 AM
I think Slow6 has bits form Harvest Moon : BtN.
Title: Re: RMXP's been stealing...
Post by: Winged on April 22, 2007, 08:29:51 AM
To defend composers everywhere. (even though it is likely that these are just rips)

It's impossible to come up with something completely original... well, for most people.

If it's completely original, most of the time our brain will clash with it saying "I've never heard something like that, it sounds like crap", so you end up using some bits you've heard from other songs.

I agree with Tsuno, but they sound too much alike. I haven't played every single game on the world but I have heard most of the tunes somewhere before...

~Winged
Title: Re: RMXP's been stealing...
Post by: Horror BN on April 23, 2007, 07:25:22 AM
Isn't it possible that they got permission to use those songs? ???
Title: Re: RMXP's been stealing...
Post by: Frohman on April 25, 2007, 12:12:51 AM
I don't think they're stealing anything,
RPG music all sounds the same to me anyways...