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Title: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on March 30, 2012, 01:23:35 PM
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffc06.deviantart.net%2Ffs71%2Fi%2F2012%2F075%2Fb%2F4%2Ffuture_helper_seven_tower_logo_by_jomarcenter-d4swsvu.png&hash=a94b721a3e0190720d397b8bdd8359468433ced4)

In the year 192 a kingdom of angele where the seven tower stood,and the city of rapid technology called central city, there live a young boy named Alex who been found out that his mother is fake, and his real mother died, he follow his mother will to stop the destruction and evil, and find the true secret of his mother, he set out on a quest to find the seven crystal and destroy the seven tower before the world would end, but he cannot do it alone he need a team and work together as one to stop the evil once and for all... the secret organization called Future helper help him in his quest to save the world.

The entire game takes place in angele kingdom.

feature:
Mission center- complete pre-made mission and earn cash,item etc...
N-pad system- a state of the art gadget that you can enjoy all of the power feature...
Dna transformation**- disguised, costume, other way to get in... NO need... dna transformation that can change the physical part of your body
Infodex- don't know what is this or the place your in... infodex is the answer... they all know what you need to know...
Secret base**- want to add or remove team mate or go to the mission center the secret base is the answer... Where you can build your team or talk to them also...
And many more!!!

trailer:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFFXyKTz3vM[/youtube]

Submitted for the competition.

-find the mystery-
-discover the truth-
-stop the invasion-
-save the world-
or try dieing.

*Feature not available until full released
**Feature not yet avalable

Future Helper is copyright 2012 jomarcenter games...

like our facebook fan page
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Future-helper/369961609686538 (https://www.facebook.com/pages/Future-helper/369961609686538)
visit our wiki
http://jomarcenter-future-helper.wikia.com/wiki/The_future_helper_Wiki (http://jomarcenter-future-helper.wikia.com/wiki/The_future_helper_Wiki)



This work is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported License. To view a copy of this license, visit http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/3.0/
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Illumination™ on March 30, 2012, 01:27:10 PM
Where is yo e-book?
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on March 30, 2012, 01:28:21 PM
THIS SITE is unauthorized to delivered jomarcenter prouct
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Illumination™ on March 30, 2012, 01:29:27 PM
No just give me a download link seriously. The layout is a pain
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on March 30, 2012, 01:32:30 PM
THIS SITE IS UNAUTHORIZED!!!
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: skaraflame on March 30, 2012, 02:05:20 PM
Just read the eBook. I like the part where Alex bummed into someone.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Illumination™ on March 30, 2012, 02:10:26 PM
I bet the fake mom killed the real mom too.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on March 30, 2012, 02:14:29 PM
this site is unauthorized!!!
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Illumination™ on March 30, 2012, 02:22:35 PM
I bet the guy who saves him is from the future helper.  :V
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: skaraflame on March 30, 2012, 02:26:03 PM
I bet the store owner wants to domm the world as we knew it.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Esmeralda on March 30, 2012, 02:48:56 PM
I read your ebook it was amazing :) You should try getting a real publisher and get it on the amazon!!!
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: strike on March 30, 2012, 04:17:50 PM
I bet President Baker should be somewhere to the south of where Alex blasted through the wall. I think he should Hurry and save him before the terrorists discover his code.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: tSwitch on March 30, 2012, 04:36:50 PM
I made a topic for my game but don't post here post on this wiki instead.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Esmeralda on March 30, 2012, 04:44:02 PM
A wiki is probably the most cumbersome outlet for "theories" and game discussion
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Illumination™ on March 30, 2012, 04:48:22 PM
I made a topic for my game but don't post here post on this wiki instead.

He actually first directed me here from the GIAW thread (ok in itself) just to direct me from here to the wiki.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: skaraflame on March 30, 2012, 05:36:29 PM
I made a topic for my game but don't post here post on this wiki instead.

He actually first directed me here from the GIAW thread (ok in itself) just to direct me from here to the wiki.
Yeah that was frickin weird. Pretty funny.
Anyway, will look forward to the full version of the next Final Fantasy.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Fall From Eden on March 30, 2012, 05:40:15 PM
This entire sequence of events is simply incredible to watch unfold. Just thought we'd share that.

I read your ebook it was amazing :) You should try getting a real publisher and get it on the amazon!!!

This isn't that hard to do, actually -- except for the "real publisher" part. Case in point: Amazon.com: Self-Publish with Us (https://www.amazon.com/gp/seller-account/mm-summary-page.html?topic=200260520). In fact, we wholly recommend that the author begins this process immediately.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on March 31, 2012, 04:52:25 AM
This entire sequence of events is simply incredible to watch unfold. Just thought we'd share that.

I read your ebook it was amazing :) You should try getting a real publisher and get it on the amazon!!!

This isn't that hard to do, actually -- except for the "real publisher" part. Case in point: Amazon.com: Self-Publish with Us (https://www.amazon.com/gp/seller-account/mm-summary-page.html?topic=200260520). In fact, we wholly recommend that the author begins this process immediately.
thank you but the only problem is... JOMARCENTER is not a company...
here what they say about what  i have to do...
Quote
Welcome to CreateSpace!

Some things you should know about your account and how we report your earned royalties to the Internal Revenue Service:

We are required to report your earned royalties to the Internal Revenue Service. If you currently reside in the United States, you must provide us with a Tax ID number, payee address and business type before your title can go live and be available for purchase.

If you are currently living outside of the United States, you must provide us with your payee address and business type before your title can go live and be available for purchase. Please refer to (deleted) for additional information for non-US members.

To update this information, visit (link deleted) to access your "Royalty Payment Information."
here in the philippines will cost a business a lot of money just to sell to get all the necessary permit and other things...
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: skaraflame on March 31, 2012, 08:55:06 AM
This entire sequence of events is simply incredible to watch unfold. Just thought we'd share that.

I read your ebook it was amazing :) You should try getting a real publisher and get it on the amazon!!!

This isn't that hard to do, actually -- except for the "real publisher" part. Case in point: Amazon.com: Self-Publish with Us (https://www.amazon.com/gp/seller-account/mm-summary-page.html?topic=200260520). In fact, we wholly recommend that the author begins this process immediately.
thank you but the only problem is... JOMARCENTER is not a company...
here what they say about what  i have to do...
Quote
Welcome to CreateSpace!

Some things you should know about your account and how we report your earned royalties to the Internal Revenue Service:

We are required to report your earned royalties to the Internal Revenue Service. If you currently reside in the United States, you must provide us with a Tax ID number, payee address and business type before your title can go live and be available for purchase.

If you are currently living outside of the United States, you must provide us with your payee address and business type before your title can go live and be available for purchase. Please refer to (deleted) for additional information for non-US members.

To update this information, visit (link deleted) to access your "Royalty Payment Information."
here in the philippines will cost a business a lot of money just to sell to get all the necessary permit and other things...
Stop ignoring grammar advice.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on March 31, 2012, 10:24:48 AM
This entire sequence of events is simply incredible to watch unfold. Just thought we'd share that.

I read your ebook it was amazing :) You should try getting a real publisher and get it on the amazon!!!

This isn't that hard to do, actually -- except for the "real publisher" part. Case in point: Amazon.com: Self-Publish with Us (https://www.amazon.com/gp/seller-account/mm-summary-page.html?topic=200260520). In fact, we wholly recommend that the author begins this process immediately.
thank you but the only problem is... JOMARCENTER is not a company...
here what they say about what  i have to do...
Quote
Welcome to CreateSpace!

Some things you should know about your account and how we report your earned royalties to the Internal Revenue Service:

We are required to report your earned royalties to the Internal Revenue Service. If you currently reside in the United States, you must provide us with a Tax ID number, payee address and business type before your title can go live and be available for purchase.

If you are currently living outside of the United States, you must provide us with your payee address and business type before your title can go live and be available for purchase. Please refer to (deleted) for additional information for non-US members.

To update this information, visit (link deleted) to access your "Royalty Payment Information."
here in the philippines will cost a business a lot of money just to sell to get all the necessary permit and other things...
Stop ignoring grammar advice.
I'm not ignoring your grammar advice...!!!
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: skaraflame on March 31, 2012, 10:31:57 AM
This entire sequence of events is simply incredible to watch unfold. Just thought we'd share that.

I read your ebook it was amazing :) You should try getting a real publisher and get it on the amazon!!!

This isn't that hard to do, actually -- except for the "real publisher" part. Case in point: Amazon.com: Self-Publish with Us (https://www.amazon.com/gp/seller-account/mm-summary-page.html?topic=200260520). In fact, we wholly recommend that the author begins this process immediately.
thank you but the only problem is... JOMARCENTER is not a company...
here what they say about what  i have to do...
Quote
Welcome to CreateSpace!

Some things you should know about your account and how we report your earned royalties to the Internal Revenue Service:

We are required to report your earned royalties to the Internal Revenue Service. If you currently reside in the United States, you must provide us with a Tax ID number, payee address and business type before your title can go live and be available for purchase.

If you are currently living outside of the United States, you must provide us with your payee address and business type before your title can go live and be available for purchase. Please refer to (deleted) for additional information for non-US members.

To update this information, visit (link deleted) to access your "Royalty Payment Information."
here in the philippines will cost a business a lot of money just to sell to get all the necessary permit and other things...
Stop ignoring grammar advice.
I'm not ignoring your grammar advice...!!!
It's not me giving you advice. And that sentence was wrong in too many ways.
"I'm not ignoring your grammar advice!" would've been correct. Stop putting ellipsis after everything, and you only need one exclamation mark.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Esmeralda on March 31, 2012, 10:52:53 AM
I think talking like this is a lot of fun...!!!
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: skaraflame on March 31, 2012, 11:21:40 AM
I thikking we should all started talking like jomarcenter.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: D&P3 on March 31, 2012, 11:33:36 AM
Oh, fuck no.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: modern algebra on March 31, 2012, 12:49:16 PM
thank you but the only problem is... JOMARCENTER is not a company...
here what they say about what  i have to do...
Quote
Welcome to CreateSpace!

Some things you should know about your account and how we report your earned royalties to the Internal Revenue Service:

We are required to report your earned royalties to the Internal Revenue Service. If you currently reside in the United States, you must provide us with a Tax ID number, payee address and business type before your title can go live and be available for purchase.

If you are currently living outside of the United States, you must provide us with your payee address and business type before your title can go live and be available for purchase. Please refer to (deleted) for additional information for non-US members.

To update this information, visit (link deleted) to access your "Royalty Payment Information."
here in the philippines will cost a business a lot of money just to sell to get all the necessary permit and other things...

Nothing in that says you need to be incorporated and since they ask for your business type, assumedly, it would be fine to be a sole proprietorship, partnership, etc. The act of trying to do business (selling your e-book) makes you a sole proprietorship since that is the default form of business association when it is only one person. If you were in Nova Scotia, the only thing you would need to do is register your name since it is not your own; I am not sure what the requirements might be in the Phillipines, but assuming that this website is correct (http://businessregistration.wordpress.com/2008/04/09/how-to-register-a-sole-proprietorship/), it only costs 300 pesos.

That said, you need to be over 18, which I suspect is fatal to your application. However, I don't think the Phillipine government will hold it against you; I doubt they prosecute lemonade stands, and this is not dissimilar.

Mind you, there is no limitation of liability for sole proprietorships, so you'd have to be sure you haven't breached any copyright laws.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on April 02, 2012, 10:07:06 AM
like future helper on facebook.
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Future-helper/369961609686538
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Gracie on April 02, 2012, 11:08:33 AM
This entire thing is getting out of hand, don't you all think?
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: skaraflame on April 02, 2012, 11:11:13 AM
This entire thing is getting out of hand, don't you all think?
Yes.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: D&P3 on April 02, 2012, 11:11:56 AM
Don't worry, I'm just about done with writing down my feedback for the most recent GIAW entry I played.

Up next is Jomarcenter's, and I can post my opinion in a thread if I so please.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: LoganF on April 02, 2012, 11:40:37 AM
Don't worry, I'm just about done with writing down my feedback for the most recent GIAW entry I played.

Up next is Jomarcenter's, and I can post my opinion in a thread if I so please.

It's one thing reviewing the game for it's value and merits/demerits - but this little shenanigan shouldn't affect your judgement.

I'm also certain Gracie's concern stems from goading and encouraging someone who clearly is at a disadvantage. By that, I mean that on the face of it, it doesn't seem as though Jomarcenter understands the language quite well enough, nor the hidden intention behind the replies he gets.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: D&P3 on April 02, 2012, 11:48:39 AM
The shenanigan(erie) will not be affecting my judgement. I will post exactly what I thought of the game and the mistakes I find in it.

I will also mention how it was handed in rather early and that that would have probably contributed to what I see.

However, if the game is indeed good and has potential, I will be mentioning this as such.

But as of right now, I don't have much hope for it.

We will see if I am proven wrong.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: LoganF on April 02, 2012, 11:53:27 AM
I know you're an objective guy when it comes to reviewing things. I'm just acting as an unofficial Whip I guess. Make sure things are clear and understood. I have a dislike for unfairness and outside influences affecting a decision is all.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Esmeralda on April 02, 2012, 12:30:44 PM
Playing through and writing my review of Future Helper. I will admit to it being every bit as hilarious as any of us thought it would be.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: skaraflame on April 02, 2012, 12:35:11 PM
I've played it. It's a half hour demo that gives you no indication whatsoever as to what's actually going on. All I know is that his mum isn't his mum, slimes and bats everywhere, and Jenifer/Jade B Savior works in the future or something... THAT'S IT.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Esmeralda on April 02, 2012, 12:39:35 PM
I've played it. It's a half hour demo that gives you no indication whatsoever as to what's actually going on. All I know is that his mum isn't his mum, slimes and bats everywhere, and Jenifer/Jade B Savior works in the future or something... THAT'S IT.

Don't worry I screencapped the infodump (https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FdHHM2.png&hash=155857ae3e4ef8e13bab4262cb2f9573cccba592)

Spoiler for oh my god it gets better:
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FpOXiQ.png&hash=a42d2f3af416ca080276d5dde3adcc94c1a967ba)
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: skaraflame on April 02, 2012, 01:06:09 PM
"evil had try to kill him for no reasons"
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on April 02, 2012, 02:02:05 PM
I've played it. It's a half hour demo that gives you no indication whatsoever as to what's actually going on. All I know is that his mum isn't his mum, slimes and bats everywhere, and Jenifer/Jade B Savior works in the future or something... THAT'S IT.

Don't worry I screencapped the infodump (https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FdHHM2.png&hash=155857ae3e4ef8e13bab4262cb2f9573cccba592)

Spoiler for oh my god it gets better:
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FpOXiQ.png&hash=a42d2f3af416ca080276d5dde3adcc94c1a967ba)
your running version 0.1C which 0.1D and above all the grammar had been fix...
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: skaraflame on April 02, 2012, 02:08:45 PM
I've played it. It's a half hour demo that gives you no indication whatsoever as to what's actually going on. All I know is that his mum isn't his mum, slimes and bats everywhere, and Jenifer/Jade B Savior works in the future or something... THAT'S IT.

Don't worry I screencapped the infodump (https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FdHHM2.png&hash=155857ae3e4ef8e13bab4262cb2f9573cccba592)

Spoiler for oh my god it gets better:
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FpOXiQ.png&hash=a42d2f3af416ca080276d5dde3adcc94c1a967ba)
your running version 0.1C which 0.1D and above all the grammar had been fix...
What? That made no sense whatsoever.

Anyway, the game hurts. Might make memes out of its terrible, terrible content.

Also, the credits. OH MY GOD the credits XD
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: D&P3 on April 02, 2012, 02:09:39 PM
Future Helpers and the Seven Towers - Jomarcenter
Spoiler for Commenting as I play:
First thing that I need to mention is that your title screen seems to have an upbeat tune going for it, I like this.

Just after starting a new game and viewing your disclaimer + prologue, I have to point out the amount of grammar errors that I can see, ‘history’ has also been spelled incorrectly, also ‘mother’ is displayed somewhat offscreen.
Please take a look into fixing them, I’m not much for playing a game which has a lot of mistakes in them. :)

You know what, I actually have to applaud this, I haven’t seen it done in any other RPG Maker game I’ve played, ever.
Spoiler for:
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg4host.net%2Fupload%2F021446544f799fbe94694.JPG&hash=2233e4ddfdd933e636afb36e9ef68fd3b226e4ab)


What the hell just happened in this scene with Jennifer?
All I got outta that was ‘Thud’, ‘Watch it’, ‘Here is my number’ (because you know, people randomly give their phone numbers to people they randomly bump into)…

Reading a newspaper, someone is wanted… I actually don’t know who that is, but apparently my character does.

Returning home and seeing my mother and some asshat saying something about turning me evil…

I am freaking lost, what the hell is going on in this game?

I’m sorry but I’ve got no clue what this is supposed to mean.
Spoiler for:
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg4host.net%2Fupload%2F021458064f79a25edd13f.JPG&hash=21db19631e23d37c0cd9c0e1fbaf8f0427854f52)

Is there a specific reason as to why I am not able to access the menu in this game?

Looking at walls of some of your maps, you don’t seem to go full 3D on them.
Spoiler for:
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg4host.net%2Fupload%2F021503524f79a3b81600b.JPG&hash=e485e4749e2afc1e9b26d004796e63ddb66a2dcc)

Again, what on earth is this supposed to mean?
Spoiler for:
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg4host.net%2Fupload%2F021509244f79a50435829.JPG&hash=a38c12ad0af66a342509119e4e5256a61f6dea03)

I’m taking screenshots because in all honesty, I don’t think I could quote you in any of my posts ;_;

Ah, finally I can access the menu. :D

“Destroy the towers or we’re all Domed”  :rwat:

Oh ok I finished the game/Demo


Polish: 4/10
Spoiler for Reasons:
Only the RTP was being used in this project.

Without a doubt, you need to relax on the music that you’re using, it’s no fun to listen to the music if it literally changes every time I enter a house or go through a door. Seriously, cut down on how often you change the music.

The visuals were ok, I do see quite a lot of dead space in your maps, in particular are the team mates rooms, it would be a good idea to work on these maps to get them looking all nice and pretty.

Playability: 5/10
Spoiler for Reasons:
It is literally just the original scripts by Enterbrain being used in this game, the battles aren’t all that entertaining, and the monsters that have been used seem like they haven’t been well thought out.

You could’ve added a more powerful monster to fight against after beating the first few from the ‘evil 4’ guy, and this would’ve made it slightly more fun and challenging.

Everything else seemed to just be ‘take this item and do something with it’ without any specific purpose.

Ingenuity: 4/10
Spoiler for Reasons:
I spent the majority of the game wondering what the hell I just read and trying to decipher what you actually said.

As such, I probably missed most of the story. All I got out of this was that my mother is a fake and I need to do something about some crystals in some towers.

I never got a reason why I needed to do something about the crystals or why my mum was a fake, so I got no story out of this.

Entertainment:3/10
Spoiler for Reasons:
Again, I spent most of the game wondering what I just read, so it wasn’t all that fun to play. The battles themselves weren’t all that great either.

I can only give props for the battle music used (cause I really dig it :blizj:), but that credit belongs to EnterBrain and not you, so overall I didn’t think it was an entirely ‘fun’ experience.


Despite my non-positive comments however, I DO think that this game has some potential. If you get all those spelling and grammar errors fixed and pay more attention on what you’re creating rather than rushing through (which I have noticed in other GIAW entries as well; I don’t blame things looking rushed in these game as they’ve only had a week).

You DID post your game a fair few days before the contest ended, and so I think that you’ve wasted time which could’ve been used to improve your game.



Quote from: Jomarcenter
your running version 0.1C which 0.1D and above all the grammar had been fix...
No we are actually running 0.1E, which was included in the download we were given by Modern Algebra, the header title just says that it's 0.1C.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on April 02, 2012, 02:33:28 PM
Future Helpers and the Seven Towers - Jomarcenter
Spoiler for Commenting as I play:
First thing that I need to mention is that your title screen seems to have an upbeat tune going for it, I like this.

Just after starting a new game and viewing your disclaimer + prologue, I have to point out the amount of grammar errors that I can see, ‘history’ has also been spelled incorrectly, also ‘mother’ is displayed somewhat offscreen.
Please take a look into fixing them, I’m not much for playing a game which has a lot of mistakes in them. :)

You know what, I actually have to applaud this, I haven’t seen it done in any other RPG Maker game I’ve played, ever.
Spoiler for:
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg4host.net%2Fupload%2F021446544f799fbe94694.JPG&hash=2233e4ddfdd933e636afb36e9ef68fd3b226e4ab)


What the hell just happened in this scene with Jennifer?
All I got outta that was ‘Thud’, ‘Watch it’, ‘Here is my number’ (because you know, people randomly give their phone numbers to people they randomly bump into)…

Reading a newspaper, someone is wanted… I actually don’t know who that is, but apparently my character does.

Returning home and seeing my mother and some asshat saying something about turning me evil…

I am freaking lost, what the hell is going on in this game?

I’m sorry but I’ve got no clue what this is supposed to mean.
Spoiler for:
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg4host.net%2Fupload%2F021458064f79a25edd13f.JPG&hash=21db19631e23d37c0cd9c0e1fbaf8f0427854f52)

Is there a specific reason as to why I am not able to access the menu in this game?

Looking at walls of some of your maps, you don’t seem to go full 3D on them.
Spoiler for:
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg4host.net%2Fupload%2F021503524f79a3b81600b.JPG&hash=e485e4749e2afc1e9b26d004796e63ddb66a2dcc)

Again, what on earth is this supposed to mean?
Spoiler for:
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg4host.net%2Fupload%2F021509244f79a50435829.JPG&hash=a38c12ad0af66a342509119e4e5256a61f6dea03)

I’m taking screenshots because in all honesty, I don’t think I could quote you in any of my posts ;_;

Ah, finally I can access the menu. :D

“Destroy the towers or we’re all Domed”  :rwat:

Oh ok I finished the game/Demo


Polish: 4/10
Spoiler for Reasons:
Only the RTP was being used in this project.

Without a doubt, you need to relax on the music that you’re using, it’s no fun to listen to the music if it literally changes every time I enter a house or go through a door. Seriously, cut down on how often you change the music.

The visuals were ok, I do see quite a lot of dead space in your maps, in particular are the team mates rooms, it would be a good idea to work on these maps to get them looking all nice and pretty.

Playability: 5/10
Spoiler for Reasons:
It is literally just the original scripts by Enterbrain being used in this game, the battles aren’t all that entertaining, and the monsters that have been used seem like they haven’t been well thought out.

You could’ve added a more powerful monster to fight against after beating the first few from the ‘evil 4’ guy, and this would’ve made it slightly more fun and challenging.

Everything else seemed to just be ‘take this item and do something with it’ without any specific purpose.

Ingenuity: 4/10
Spoiler for Reasons:
I spent the majority of the game wondering what the hell I just read and trying to decipher what you actually said.

As such, I probably missed most of the story. All I got out of this was that my mother is a fake and I need to do something about some crystals in some towers.

I never got a reason why I needed to do something about the crystals or why my mum was a fake, so I got no story out of this.

Entertainment:3/10
Spoiler for Reasons:
Again, I spent most of the game wondering what I just read, so it wasn’t all that fun to play. The battles themselves weren’t all that great either.

I can only give props for the battle music used (cause I really dig it :blizj:), but that credit belongs to EnterBrain and not you, so overall I didn’t think it was an entirely ‘fun’ experience.


Despite my non-positive comments however, I DO think that this game has some potential. If you get all those spelling and grammar errors fixed and pay more attention on what you’re creating rather than rushing through (which I have noticed in other GIAW entries as well; I don’t blame things looking rushed in these game as they’ve only had a week).

You DID post your game a fair few days before the contest ended, and so I think that you’ve wasted time which could’ve been used to improve your game.



Quote from: Jomarcenter
your running version 0.1C which 0.1D and above all the grammar had been fix...
No we are actually running 0.1E, which was included in the download we were given by Modern Algebra, the header title just says that it's 0.1C.
thank you for the comment since it already 10:25 pm here i will go to sleep and comment further tomorrow...
well thank you for checking the game. i will fix it tomorrow morning and released version 0.2 soon...

well i only got 22 day left before my trial end (unless if someone had a very good heart to give me the full version) :( ... and also i don't want to spend my money (and also i have no credit card or the site providing other type of payment{and i don't trust the internet to use the credit card})
well sooner or later some random company will make a prepaid card system that can use on the internet...
(you know register on their site... buy their 5$,20$,100$, etc... card on a local store... and then type the number on the site and you can buy anything online without any problem with your credit card or using it)

well good night...
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Illumination™ on April 02, 2012, 02:38:36 PM
Future Helpers and the Seven Towers - Jomarcenter
Spoiler for Commenting as I play:
First thing that I need to mention is that your title screen seems to have an upbeat tune going for it, I like this.

Just after starting a new game and viewing your disclaimer + prologue, I have to point out the amount of grammar errors that I can see, ‘history’ has also been spelled incorrectly, also ‘mother’ is displayed somewhat offscreen.
Please take a look into fixing them, I’m not much for playing a game which has a lot of mistakes in them. :)

You know what, I actually have to applaud this, I haven’t seen it done in any other RPG Maker game I’ve played, ever.
Spoiler for:
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg4host.net%2Fupload%2F021446544f799fbe94694.JPG&hash=2233e4ddfdd933e636afb36e9ef68fd3b226e4ab)


What the hell just happened in this scene with Jennifer?
All I got outta that was ‘Thud’, ‘Watch it’, ‘Here is my number’ (because you know, people randomly give their phone numbers to people they randomly bump into)…

Reading a newspaper, someone is wanted… I actually don’t know who that is, but apparently my character does.

Returning home and seeing my mother and some asshat saying something about turning me evil…

I am freaking lost, what the hell is going on in this game?

I’m sorry but I’ve got no clue what this is supposed to mean.
Spoiler for:
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg4host.net%2Fupload%2F021458064f79a25edd13f.JPG&hash=21db19631e23d37c0cd9c0e1fbaf8f0427854f52)

Is there a specific reason as to why I am not able to access the menu in this game?

Looking at walls of some of your maps, you don’t seem to go full 3D on them.
Spoiler for:
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg4host.net%2Fupload%2F021503524f79a3b81600b.JPG&hash=e485e4749e2afc1e9b26d004796e63ddb66a2dcc)

Again, what on earth is this supposed to mean?
Spoiler for:
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg4host.net%2Fupload%2F021509244f79a50435829.JPG&hash=a38c12ad0af66a342509119e4e5256a61f6dea03)

I’m taking screenshots because in all honesty, I don’t think I could quote you in any of my posts ;_;

Ah, finally I can access the menu. :D

“Destroy the towers or we’re all Domed”  :rwat:

Oh ok I finished the game/Demo


Polish: 4/10
Spoiler for Reasons:
Only the RTP was being used in this project.

Without a doubt, you need to relax on the music that you’re using, it’s no fun to listen to the music if it literally changes every time I enter a house or go through a door. Seriously, cut down on how often you change the music.

The visuals were ok, I do see quite a lot of dead space in your maps, in particular are the team mates rooms, it would be a good idea to work on these maps to get them looking all nice and pretty.

Playability: 5/10
Spoiler for Reasons:
It is literally just the original scripts by Enterbrain being used in this game, the battles aren’t all that entertaining, and the monsters that have been used seem like they haven’t been well thought out.

You could’ve added a more powerful monster to fight against after beating the first few from the ‘evil 4’ guy, and this would’ve made it slightly more fun and challenging.

Everything else seemed to just be ‘take this item and do something with it’ without any specific purpose.

Ingenuity: 4/10
Spoiler for Reasons:
I spent the majority of the game wondering what the hell I just read and trying to decipher what you actually said.

As such, I probably missed most of the story. All I got out of this was that my mother is a fake and I need to do something about some crystals in some towers.

I never got a reason why I needed to do something about the crystals or why my mum was a fake, so I got no story out of this.

Entertainment:3/10
Spoiler for Reasons:
Again, I spent most of the game wondering what I just read, so it wasn’t all that fun to play. The battles themselves weren’t all that great either.

I can only give props for the battle music used (cause I really dig it :blizj:), but that credit belongs to EnterBrain and not you, so overall I didn’t think it was an entirely ‘fun’ experience.


Despite my non-positive comments however, I DO think that this game has some potential. If you get all those spelling and grammar errors fixed and pay more attention on what you’re creating rather than rushing through (which I have noticed in other GIAW entries as well; I don’t blame things looking rushed in these game as they’ve only had a week).

You DID post your game a fair few days before the contest ended, and so I think that you’ve wasted time which could’ve been used to improve your game.



Quote from: Jomarcenter
your running version 0.1C which 0.1D and above all the grammar had been fix...
No we are actually running 0.1E, which was included in the download we were given by Modern Algebra, the header title just says that it's 0.1C.
thank you for the comment since it already 10:25 pm here i will go to sleep and comment further tomorrow...
well thank you for checking the game. i will fix it tomorrow morning and released version 0.2 soon...

well i only got 22 day left before my trial end (unless if someone had a very good heart to give me the full version) :( ... and also i don't want to spend my money (and also i have no credit card or the site providing other type of payment{and i don't trust the internet to use the credit card})
well sooner or later some random company will make a prepaid card system that can use on the internet...
(you know register on their site... buy their 5$,20$,100$, etc... card on a local store... and then type the number on the site and you can buy anything online without any problem with your credit card or using it)

well good night...

Yes, some random company.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: skaraflame on April 02, 2012, 02:42:30 PM
He updated it after he sent it in for the other competition. By then it was too late.
Shame you didn't get to the credits XD

But yeah, I kept wondering what the merry f**k was happening.
Also, Jenifer ran away? No she didn't, she disappeared into thin fucking air, that's what she did.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: pacdiggity on April 02, 2012, 02:46:05 PM
Also, Jenifer ran away? No she didn't, she disappeared into thin fucking air, that's what she did.

Hey, nice joke. Maybe you could work it into a video review you do of the game!
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: skaraflame on April 02, 2012, 02:46:21 PM
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F1.2.3.12%2Fbmi%2Fcdn.memegenerator.net%2Finstances%2F400x%2F17661511.jpg&hash=405726170a76071a27584afd45dd4c45143a8895)
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: skaraflame on April 02, 2012, 02:46:53 PM
Also, Jenifer ran away? No she didn't, she disappeared into thin fucking air, that's what she did.

Hey, nice joke. Maybe you could work it into a video review you do of the game!
I can't. I stole the quote from another video review XD
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: D&P3 on April 02, 2012, 02:49:15 PM
He updated it after he sent it in for the other competition. By then it was too late.
Shame you didn't get to the credits XD

But yeah, I kept wondering what the merry f**k was happening.
Also, Jenifer ran away? No she didn't, she disappeared into thin fucking air, that's what she did.

Oh no, I got to the credits.

I just didn't want to comment on the amount of self-gratitude he was giving.


And yep, Jeniffer did that too, again, didn't want to mention it.

Spoiler for:
Actually truth be told, I somehow forgot about that ;9
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: pacdiggity on April 02, 2012, 02:51:14 PM
Also, Jenifer ran away? No she didn't, she disappeared into thin fucking air, that's what she did.

Hey, nice joke. Maybe you could work it into a video review you do of the game!
I can't. I stole the quote from another video review XD
I know.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: skaraflame on April 02, 2012, 02:52:21 PM
He updated it after he sent it in for the other competition. By then it was too late.
Shame you didn't get to the credits XD

But yeah, I kept wondering what the merry f**k was happening.
Also, Jenifer ran away? No she didn't, she disappeared into thin fucking air, that's what she did.

Oh no, I got to the credits.

I just didn't want to comment on the amount of self-gratitude he was giving.


And yep, Jeniffer did that too, again, didn't want to mention it.

Spoiler for:
Actually truth be told, I somehow forgot about that ;9
It was frickin hilarious.
"Living your life it not the only thing you will do for your own life" WHAT THE HELL.

Also, my summary of the whole game
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F1.2.3.11%2Fbmi%2Fcdn.memegenerator.net%2Finstances%2F400x%2F17661709.jpg&hash=15d8e7d2dad8547dbc8d762ff70cb49df5db3c05)
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Gracie on April 02, 2012, 02:55:24 PM
2/10 wouldnt bang
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: D&P3 on April 02, 2012, 02:57:04 PM
I would like to point out (before anybody complains or asks why they haven't gotten their feedback yet) that Jomarcenter was actually disqualified from the GIAW competition, so I was allowed to post what I thought of it here.

2/10 wouldnt bang
:tpg:
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: skaraflame on April 02, 2012, 03:19:32 PM
I know I'm not a judge, but I'd like to rate this game in a list.
Bad points are represented by "-"
Good points are represented by "+"

-Typos and errors... Typos and errors everywhere
-Terrible empty maps
-Awful story progression... Sorry, no story progression
-Slimes and Bats
-Nothing actually makes sense, like no clear indication as to whether Jenifer's there or not.
-No skills, making battles morbidly dull
-The antagonist doesn't really do anything except throw things at Alex to turn him evil.
-The Battle Network doesn't do anything
-If you go sideways in your house you end up facing south in a different direction
+At least I can move
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: D&P3 on April 02, 2012, 03:30:09 PM
Best review EVER ;D

Hope you don't mind if I adapt everything you just said into my own review.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Gracie on April 02, 2012, 03:31:18 PM
Best review EVER ;D

Hope you don't mind if I adapt everything you just said into my own review.

Also DP3, I wouldn't judge a GIAW on RTP graphics, I guarantee everyone else used the RTP too.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: D&P3 on April 02, 2012, 03:35:43 PM
I didn't...

Oh I see what you mean, I didn't retract my RTP statement in regards to visuals...
No I only judge on the RTP Music being used, it is quite boring to listen to if every game is using it, whereas graphics don't get as boring that quickly.

No game I'm judging will be affected by using RTP graphics.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Acolyte on April 02, 2012, 08:42:23 PM
Also, you can't judge a game based on how many custom scripts they have. You can do a lot with eventing.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: bluntsword on April 02, 2012, 08:49:48 PM
Played through your game.  A little time learning the program (as I understand it this is your first game?) and some help with grammar and English and you'll have a viable game on your hands.  I THINK you've got a good idea, though because the wording is hard to understand, I'm still trying to grasp the plot. 

Get some help, as well as some guidance, and you'll have a good game...

...wait for it...

...in the future.

 8)
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Lethrface on April 02, 2012, 08:53:03 PM
I just did a lets-play of the game...

Not going to lie, I was not easy on it.

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL32AE26CB5ACD8F0F&feature=view_all
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: tSwitch on April 02, 2012, 09:39:01 PM
I didn't...

Oh I see what you mean, I didn't retract my RTP statement in regards to visuals...
No I only judge on the RTP Music being used, it is quite boring to listen to if every game is using it, whereas graphics don't get as boring that quickly.

No game I'm judging will be affected by using RTP graphics.

The point is not everyone can make music, art, or scripts, so rather good games could be made with the RTP.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: skaraflame on April 02, 2012, 10:46:41 PM
I don't think Witchtooth uses too much original resources and that is an incredible game.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: DoctorTodd on April 02, 2012, 11:16:36 PM
I just did a lets-play of the game...

Not going to lie, I was not easy on it.

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL32AE26CB5ACD8F0F&feature=view_all
You don't know how much I laughed at these.....
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: mobychan on April 02, 2012, 11:27:17 PM
We actually just checked the spellcheckplus site he used to check his grammar.

It's seems to be actually quite good, if you know how to use it...
It's not correcting your text but giving you advise on mistakes that seem to be in your text:

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-_i5mVW_vf2w/T3o1F8RjazI/AAAAAAAAALY/9SGLjKRHhR0/s912/Spellcheck.png)

You should of course also correct your sentences afterwards ;)
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: bluntsword on April 02, 2012, 11:45:37 PM
So our friend just didn't take the advice?
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Illumination™ on April 03, 2012, 12:09:12 AM
So our friend just didn't take the advice?

I assume the tip didn't use enough !'s for him.  :mad:
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on April 03, 2012, 12:36:31 AM
I didn't...

Oh I see what you mean, I didn't retract my RTP statement in regards to visuals...
No I only judge on the RTP Music being used, it is quite boring to listen to if every game is using it, whereas graphics don't get as boring that quickly.

No game I'm judging will be affected by using RTP graphics.

The point is not everyone can make music, art, or scripts, so rather good games could be made with the RTP.
yeah just like the aveyond series they use RTP on their maps, characters ,etc.. and look how the game become...
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on April 03, 2012, 01:46:59 AM
Quote
Reading a newspaper, someone is wanted… I actually don’t know who that is, but apparently my character does.
you didn't get this point lol...
but if you really do don't get it compare those two picture.
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi861.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fab180%2Fjomarcenter%2Flol001.png&hash=123b834544121ac3a92f6cda5b50013b02fb15f3)
now what do you notice in those two picture so you will get why alex know who is wanted in the newspaper.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on April 03, 2012, 03:27:11 AM
I know I'm not a judge, but I'd like to rate this game in a list.
Bad points are represented by "-"
Good points are represented by "+"

-Typos and errors... Typos and errors everywhere
-Terrible empty maps
-Awful story progression... Sorry, no story progression
-Slimes and Bats
-Nothing actually makes sense, like no clear indication as to whether Jenifer's there or not.
-No skills, making battles morbidly dull
-The antagonist doesn't really do anything except throw things at Alex to turn him evil.
-The Battle Network doesn't do anything
-If you go sideways in your house you end up facing south in a different direction
+At least I can move
well if you don't get it that guy (which his name is reveled on version 0.2 in tower of fire) he is really trying to killed jenifer/jade.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: strike on April 03, 2012, 03:30:59 AM
dude what the hell is your first language. you'd be better off using google translate directly from your native tongue. you would make more sense.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: pacdiggity on April 03, 2012, 03:40:25 AM
Why can't Jenifer/Jade pick a name and stay with it? .-.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on April 03, 2012, 04:55:58 AM
Why can't Jenifer/Jade pick a name and stay with it? .-.
alright i will make a vote...
here the link to the vote page.
http://jomarcenter-future-helper.wikia.com/wiki/Voting:_Jenifer/jade
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: D&P3 on April 03, 2012, 06:32:36 AM
Quote
Reading a newspaper, someone is wanted… I actually don’t know who that is, but apparently my character does.
you didn't get this point lol...
but if you really do don't get it compare those two picture.
Spoiler for Image Space:
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi861.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fab180%2Fjomarcenter%2Flol001.png&hash=123b834544121ac3a92f6cda5b50013b02fb15f3)
now what do you notice in those two picture so you will get why alex know who is wanted in the newspaper.
I should like to think that I figured that out after she *attempted* to kill me.


And just to clarify (since some people seem to be getting the wrong impression), the default for everything is fine, it's about how you use it.

Quite a few GIAW entries I've played were mostly using the RTP Music, this is fine as they've used them in conjunction to the area the player was in.
THIS game specifically does not do that, the BGM changes in nearly every door that I enter, and that gets rather irritating. Using custom BGM does not affect my judgment of it, I just prefer custom over the RTP.

Default scripts I do not have a problem with either, it's the default battle system that I have a problem with, it's terrible, and a simple custom script which barely does anything (e.g gives a better HUD) is much better than the default scripts on their own. Again, no game has been affected if it used the original battle system by itself; it's just a personal preference of mine.

I actually don't care one bit about default RTP graphics being used. In fact the majority of the time, I don't see a difference between the default tilesets and custom. I'm not artistic like some of you, so this stuff I normally don't notice.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on April 03, 2012, 07:06:29 AM
Quote
Reading a newspaper, someone is wanted… I actually don’t know who that is, but apparently my character does.
you didn't get this point lol...
but if you really do don't get it compare those two picture.
Spoiler for Image Space:
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi861.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fab180%2Fjomarcenter%2Flol001.png&hash=123b834544121ac3a92f6cda5b50013b02fb15f3)
now what do you notice in those two picture so you will get why alex know who is wanted in the newspaper.
I should like to think that I figured that out after she *attempted* to kill me.


And just to clarify (since some people seem to be getting the wrong impression), the default for everything is fine, it's about how you use it.

Quite a few GIAW entries I've played were mostly using the RTP Music, this is fine as they've used them in conjunction to the area the player was in.
THIS game specifically does not do that, the BGM changes in nearly every door that I enter, and that gets rather irritating. Using custom BGM does not affect my judgment of it, I just prefer custom over the RTP.

Default scripts I do not have a problem with either, it's the default battle system that I have a problem with, it's terrible, and a simple custom script which barely does anything (e.g gives a better HUD) is much better than the default scripts on their own. Again, no game has been affected if it used the original battle system by itself; it's just a personal preference of mine.

I actually don't care one bit about default RTP graphics being used. In fact the majority of the time, I don't see a difference between the default tilesets and custom. I'm not artistic like some of you, so this stuff I normally don't notice.
well i already found a useful scripts online and it allow to use commercial and non-commercial
his username is yanfly and here his list of useful script site http://yanflychannel.wordpress.com (that a lot of scripts since ace had released)
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: pacdiggity on April 03, 2012, 07:10:38 AM
were did you find this yanfly dude? he seems prety good
i wish i knew how script as good
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on April 03, 2012, 07:16:38 AM
were did you find this yanfly dude? he seems prety good
i wish i knew how script as good
just randomly found him via rpgmaker.net while searching for script.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: pacdiggity on April 03, 2012, 07:23:08 AM
actuly doesnt seem very good he almost bad as modern_algerbra
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on April 03, 2012, 07:28:00 AM
actuly doesnt seem very good he almost bad as modern_algerbra
because the file is under .rb?
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: pacdiggity on April 03, 2012, 07:34:01 AM
no it because just the script are bad
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: skaraflame on April 03, 2012, 09:39:55 AM
1. Evil 4 says that his five year plan is all over because his frickin stupid monsters all died. That's not having a plan, that's being a crap Pokemon trainer.

2. AGAIN WITH THE WIKI. Can't you let people discuss EVERYTHING here?

3. Why the hell did the quote and reply Trihan's video here? Shouldn't you really post the comment ON the video?

4. Stop comparing this damn empty game to the Aveyond series. It's like comparing Wheelspin on Wii to Grand Theft Auto IV.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on April 03, 2012, 10:04:17 AM
1. Evil 4 says that his five year plan is all over because his frickin stupid monsters all died. That's not having a plan, that's being a crap Pokemon trainer.

2. AGAIN WITH THE WIKI. Can't you let people discuss EVERYTHING here?

3. Why the hell did the quote and reply Trihan's video here? Shouldn't you really post the comment ON the video?

4. Stop comparing this damn empty game to the Aveyond series. It's like comparing Wheelspin on Wii to Grand Theft Auto IV.
i will give you hint. as you all notice the newspaper right? now who was kidnapped? you don't know right? well the person who was kidnapped was 5 year ago. which is part of the 5 year plans.
that why i told anyone to post theories on the wiki so that if your theories became true you will be know to the community a little more.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: mobychan on April 03, 2012, 10:05:39 AM
just curious...
but say, jomarcenter, how old are you?
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on April 03, 2012, 10:06:52 AM
just curious...
but say, jomarcenter, how old are you?
do you know privacy?
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Esmeralda on April 03, 2012, 10:08:38 AM
Actually, I second that question :)

Or, rather, I think I found the answer to that already (http://forums.bukkit.org/members/jomarcenter.90599539/) :=:
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: mobychan on April 03, 2012, 10:11:05 AM
It doesn't make any sense, that Alex doesn't remember anything about it.
If it was 5 years ago, he was at least 12 (assumed he's about 17 now).
He should at least remember beeing taken against his will, even if the fake mother looks exactly like his real mother
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on April 03, 2012, 10:24:45 AM
version 0.2 had a ton of new feature here is one of the sample.
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi861.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fab180%2Fjomarcenter%2Fpreviewnewscript001.png&hash=db2ee7d618e1072c9083fec0f6ce1d4a6c0b232d)
i changed the save/load screen using one of yanfly scripts ( http://yanflychannel.wordpress.com/rmvxa/menu-scripts/ace-save-engine/ ) .
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: skaraflame on April 03, 2012, 10:43:02 AM
Oh god multiple save files. Why? At least my game has two endings (sort of). Future Helper is just one empty slime-bat spamming mess.
And lol privacy. I'm 16, that's not private.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on April 03, 2012, 10:45:33 AM
Oh god multiple save files. Why? At least my game has two endings (sort of). Future Helper is just one empty slime-bat spamming mess.
and also added new hard to beat monster (but blinding bats stay {to cause a new meme. lolz})...
and also the game have two endings..
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: skaraflame on April 03, 2012, 10:58:22 AM
Oh god multiple save files. Why? At least my game has two endings (sort of). Future Helper is just one empty slime-bat spamming mess.
and also added new hard to beat monster (but blinding bats stay {to cause a new meme. lolz})...
and also the game have two endings..
You can't create a meme on purpose. At best it'll be an RMRK joke, or a joke wherever else you decide to poison the public with this "game".

1. Make the bats less frequent
2. That field where the demo ends needs a lower encounter rate. Every 3 steps or something stupid
3. Before you carry on with "making" your "game", you REALLY need to make sure we know what's going on and improve your maps drastically. Playing the "game" hurts.
And yes, I have the most recent version.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on April 03, 2012, 11:09:23 AM
Alex is in the future because of the Helper union... and the real-hologram is look like it real lolz...
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi861.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fab180%2Fjomarcenter%2Fpreview021.png&hash=e07f627f88be4ada84a1885a53353af9cd83bd73)
but who is the escapee from year 3XXX
well 0.2 will released soon to beta.. is there anyone who want to join the 0.2 beta testing...
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: skaraflame on April 03, 2012, 11:17:51 AM
I didn't get a word of that Jomar. I'm tempted to hire a translator so people know what you're on about.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Esmeralda on April 03, 2012, 11:18:18 AM
When will JC servers be onlien i want to try battle network!!
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on April 03, 2012, 11:27:17 AM
I didn't get a word of that Jomar. I'm tempted to hire a translator so people know what you're on about.
well i just make it dramatic in this cut-scene but here is the full word
"But what would happen if he was... *play dramatic sound* An escape prisoner from this year."

and also server will be online very soon as soon as i found the following
-a stable online server script...
-a script that can update certain data on the game file...
-a script to prevent error after the game file had been updated...
-a script that can register and login user
-a script to have admin ,moderator ,etc...
-a script to make online in-game chat
-a server...
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: skaraflame on April 03, 2012, 11:28:28 AM
I didn't get a word of that Jomar. I'm tempted to hire a translator so people know what you're on about.
well i just make it dramatic in this cut-scene but here is the full word
"But what would happen if he was... *play dramatic sound* An escape prisoner from this year."
Still don't get it. I don't know who they're talking about, this means nothing to me.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on April 03, 2012, 11:31:23 AM
I didn't get a word of that Jomar. I'm tempted to hire a translator so people know what you're on about.
well i just make it dramatic in this cut-scene but here is the full word
"But what would happen if he was... *play dramatic sound* An escape prisoner from this year."
Still don't get it. I don't know who they're talking about, this means nothing to me.
here a hint... "at the scene that someone who is trying to kill you... He is the one their are talking about... (a.k.a. that guy was a prisoner from the future)
just wait for version 0.2 to be released since all the answer to your question lies in there...
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: skaraflame on April 03, 2012, 11:43:46 AM
That's not really a hint, that's just telling me that Evil 5 is a prisoner from the future, who probably got imprisoned for something he did in the past.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: D&P3 on April 03, 2012, 11:44:25 AM
Spoiler Alert!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on April 03, 2012, 11:54:43 AM
Spoiler Alert!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
you really spoiled it...  :mad: :mad: :mad:
and also i cannot think what name will i use on evil 5 it there any suggestion...
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: skaraflame on April 03, 2012, 11:59:23 AM
Dude, here's a tip. Before you carry on making your "game", plan things first.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: pacdiggity on April 03, 2012, 12:01:59 PM
Spoiler Alert!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
you really spoiled it...  :mad: :mad: :mad:
and also i cannot think what name will i use on evil 5 it there any suggestion...

you shood make it skaraflame beacause hes being evil!!! to you!!!
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: mobychan on April 03, 2012, 12:13:36 PM
And the Evil Organisation should be called Pacman
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on April 03, 2012, 12:37:25 PM
character name vote is officially over the winner is...
Spoiler for:
Jenifer

and also be serious...

and also if version 0.2 is out good luck getting understand the faerie native language here one of their native language...
Quote
kahishi nihian siowsad dajcn reodm
please take note that i randomly type on the keyboard...
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: pacdiggity on April 03, 2012, 12:45:54 PM
we r being serius i think its you who needs to be serius... you keep awesumly pranking forems!!!
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: mobychan on April 03, 2012, 12:51:52 PM
What do you mean beeing serious?
You're the one "accidentally forgetting" every serious post made.
Everybody started giving advice, so you may stop beeing this...
don't know how to call you beeing this sure of what you're doing...

I mean, did you ever play any game made with RPG Maker?
Or any game, available to public (commercial or not)?

There's nothing making sense in your game.
Should we start listing?
you could start reading my post about alex beeing the one kidnapped 5 years ago.
also, the Future helper were founded in year 192 (your text is saying that) but they clearly startet before this.

I could continue this forever

Just start reading every post someone made about your game and start thinking about what they say and include/change it in your game.
It would clearly improve it a bit.
but to make it actually good...
I think you don't have the potential, because you ignore every "review" or "critique" you're getting.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: skaraflame on April 03, 2012, 01:17:20 PM
...Oh christ the game now has Jomar's Grammar language and Faerie language...
Dude, make it so when you get a certain item, they speak in English, like a translator.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: skaraflame on April 03, 2012, 01:28:33 PM
What do you mean beeing serious?
You're the one "accidentally forgetting" every serious post made.
Everybody started giving advice, so you may stop beeing this...
don't know how to call you beeing this sure of what you're doing...

I mean, did you ever play any game made with RPG Maker?
Or any game, available to public (commercial or not)?

There's nothing making sense in your game.
Should we start listing?
you could start reading my post about alex beeing the one kidnapped 5 years ago.
also, the Future helper were founded in year 192 (your text is saying that) but they clearly startet before this.

I could continue this forever

Just start reading every post someone made about your game and start thinking about what they say and include/change it in your game.
It would clearly improve it a bit.
but to make it actually good...
I think you don't have the potential, because you ignore every "review" or "critique" you're getting.
This couldn't be closer to the truth. Everything said in this post is 100% spot on.

And I'm betting that Jenifer is your mum from the past or some crazy shit.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: D&P3 on April 03, 2012, 01:32:07 PM
I think we all know what Jomarcenter's next response is gonna be:

"Please post your theories in the wiki".
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: skaraflame on April 03, 2012, 01:36:19 PM
I think we all know what Jomarcenter's next response is gonna be:

"Please post your theories in the wiki".
Absolutely. He'll completely ignore everything else like he always does.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on April 03, 2012, 01:51:18 PM
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Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: D&P3 on April 03, 2012, 01:59:02 PM
You have other things to focus on besides that.

I'm normally somebody who can get through a good plot even if all the information is thrown at me at once.

The fact that I couldn't understand very much of what was going on is reflected by the way you create your game.

You seriously need to work on more than just how you present the story of the game.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: mobychan on April 03, 2012, 03:35:14 PM
i'm not ignoring your comment...

Oh, you totally are ignoring them

Quote
I read the first chapter. The story didn't really started off that interesting, unfortunately to say. I think you tried to introduce too many stuffs at once and the chapter felt too short, jarring, and anticlimactic.

You would need to start the story off slowly and try not to introduce too many important plot points early on. Subtle attention getter of some sort is needed at the start and while you have a lot of stuffs to choose from, the method you chose isn't the best one.

Just keep on trying!

this is another comment by vortex of pastel forums.. you may see the post here http://www.pastelforum.com/topic.php?id=3625

Quote
I like it, but I agree with -ak-. It is too much information in a very short space. If thre needs to be that much plot, it would be better to extend the chapters and write more "unimportant" plot to fill spaces between the important events.

check the bold on what i'm currently trying to do...
i been trying to introduce the plot little by little...

You're still working on something like this, after it was suggestet 2 months ago?
We read the whole thread, and also there you're kinda forcing them to fill YOUR wiki with info, they don't have.
I think you just have absolutely no idea what to do with your story and want to use the theorie postet you like the most...
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Lethrface on April 03, 2012, 03:43:06 PM
I think Jomar didn't like my let's plays.  Got one single dislike on the first video.  Quite sad, actually but meh I think I can move on past the sadness...

Look, Jomar, I have to agree with everyone else here.  Your game is just bad.  There is no way you can defend yourself on that; it is bad no matter what you say.  The big issue that everyone has with it is obviously that your story makes no sense.  It almost seems like you started it with no idea what you wanted to do and just threw events in there and was like "I need an excuse for a fight with an enemy...hmmm.  I know!  This guy is a pokemon trainer and will throw enemies out there...looks like the weakest enemies are slimes and bats so we'll use them!"  Seriously, you put very little effort into this and it seems you are making it uglier with every update and aren't even fixing your grammar or spelling like people suggested.  If you really do have a team of people helping with that, it's time to fire them because they are as bad as you are.. 

For the love of god, stop adding to it and fix what is already there before moving forward...
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: mobychan on April 03, 2012, 03:53:54 PM
actually, after what we read...

this is what he postet over at pastelforum, when someone asked what he posted there(also 2 months ago):
Quote
it just an story that can be download...
and it not a game or a interactive story(but i will make one in the future...)
and the project it took me 5 year to think and 1 day to make it...!!!

you know...
We worked on the GIAW with an idea we had when we entered the contest.
And I think it's much better understandable than what you have done here...
and you had 5 years to think about it!

And to add something:
If you'd work a bit on your english skills before trying to do an english game, you could do something more understandable.
And I'm not just saying this because you don't speak english as your first language.
Actually, my boyfriend and I are German.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Esmeralda on April 03, 2012, 04:05:16 PM
In his defense, if he's actually 13 his skills in english are quote good. English is my third language and if I or anyone else whose primary language isn't english had had internet at 13 we'd be just as bad off, if not worse :) It makes his game funny, not bad.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: bluntsword on April 03, 2012, 04:10:40 PM
What languages do you speak Skanker?

Jomarcenter -
It might as easy as actually writing out your plot from start to finish.  Not every detail, just the big points.  Then add in as you go along.  Make it sure it all makes sense written out and then go back to your game and tweak.

Please man, these guys aren't trying to kill your game making aspirations, they're trying to help.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: D&P3 on April 03, 2012, 04:19:14 PM
Despite my non-positive comments however, I DO think that this game has some potential. If you get all those spelling and grammar errors fixed and pay more attention on what you’re creating rather than rushing through.
Apparently I need to make it more clear that I wish for his game to get better if he wants me to provide a more positive response to his game.

Which doesn't seem to be happening because the amount of neglect we are getting is contributing to how much my care factor for this game is dropping.

Not that it was extremely high beforehand, mind you.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: skaraflame on April 03, 2012, 04:20:07 PM
I think Jomar didn't like my let's plays.  Got one single dislike on the first video.  Quite sad, actually but meh I think I can move on past the sadness...

Look, Jomar, I have to agree with everyone else here.  Your game is just bad.  There is no way you can defend yourself on that; it is bad no matter what you say.  The big issue that everyone has with it is obviously that your story makes no sense.  It almost seems like you started it with no idea what you wanted to do and just threw events in there and was like "I need an excuse for a fight with an enemy...hmmm.  I know!  This guy is a pokemon trainer and will throw enemies out there...looks like the weakest enemies are slimes and bats so we'll use them!"  Seriously, you put very little effort into this and it seems you are making it uglier with every update and aren't even fixing your grammar or spelling like people suggested.  If you really do have a team of people helping with that, it's time to fire them because they are as bad as you are.. 

For the love of god, stop adding to it and fix what is already there before moving forward...
Lol I saw that, kinda pathetic.

But yeah, this entire post is just... Yeah. Genius.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Esmeralda on April 03, 2012, 04:21:13 PM
What languages do you speak Skanker?

Fluently; Finnish, Swedish and English. Add a moderate or poor understanding of a dozen other languages.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Rief on April 03, 2012, 04:30:07 PM
Well, we can only help if he stops ignoring us. It seems to me that he doesn't really want help, just OUR ideas for HIS game. "Theories", as he calls it.
Oh, and he seems deef about negative critique, he only wants positive ones.

And for me, as in my personal case, i am from Germany (bei den Schwaben) and my native language is-
tadadada!
-german!
Second language is english and i started learning english with about ten or eleven, and my english with thirteen was by far better.
Because i WANTED to speak english and put effort in it.
If he would listen to our advices he could also be much better at english, but he seems to think that he speaks perfectly, as you see no improvement or whatsoever.

He just keeps saying "in the next version, in the next!".
So, next Version is out there and what do you see?
Yep, more stupid fu**ing tents in the city with the best Technology in all the World, which has way too many People with its population of 6.

Also, these...
Are they houses or some strange, crazy beings from the Bizarro-Dimension?
When i was thirteen, my mapping skills surely where bad too, i just started making games with RM2k, but at least they had some logic to them...
At least the houses were not way too small on the outside and way too big at the inside...

Well, i could go on and on, but for now, let's stop here.(.., as jomar would say)

Oh, btw, i am the second part of the team that made the Magical Red Riding Hood game for GIAW, and mobychans fiancé.
So, if she or i talk about "we", that is legitimate, because we sit next to each other most of the time.
If a single person refers to itself as "we", there are following possibilities:

-Royalty
-Schizophrenic
-Plain dumbness

So then, i think...
"Prince" jomarcenter is it now?
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: bluntsword on April 03, 2012, 04:31:54 PM
Being an American I routinely feel like a jerk anyway.  Seeing your ability to speak multiple languages makes me feel like I live in a bubble with KFC and American flag carrying eagles. 

*wishes he was more world savvy*
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Zylos on April 03, 2012, 04:36:02 PM
While I'm in this thread, I'll implore Mobychan, Rief, D&P3, and Skaraflame to take a quick look at the community board for a particular thread that might help enlighten them.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: pacdiggity on April 03, 2012, 04:37:30 PM
This thread is still going. I just thought I would point that out.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: skaraflame on April 03, 2012, 05:02:54 PM
Ok, my grammar was pretty bad until I was 15. I first acquired RMVX and RMXP when I was 13. When I was 14 I started making Masamune Exploration: The Spirit Ship.
http://rpgmaker.net/games/1851/

I worked on correcting the grammar, the maps you see there weren't the final versions of the maps, and I got better at story progression. I was also a nob and never listened to anyone.

My point is, age is no excuse for the inability to improve.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Esmeralda on April 03, 2012, 05:07:56 PM
You don't improve in a day though, next year we can all come back and praise how his english has gotten better. Much like you corrected the grammar in your game :)
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: skaraflame on April 03, 2012, 05:16:51 PM
I didn't improve in a day, no, but I at least took the bad comments on board, despite being a dick about them.
So yeah, it's really easy to improve if you just listen and don't be an arse about it.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Rief on April 03, 2012, 05:39:15 PM
Sure, he can't have perfect grammar in one day, but well, he could start by using capitals at the beginning of sentences and names, this, you CAN learn in one day.
Also, periods and exclamation marks, if he needs three years to learn that he has only to make one instead of three, then he should really start to think about himself.

There are enough things that he could improve in just one day, just by listening to others who know what they are talking about.

Okay, he is a starter. We all were, we all made crap.
BUT!
If he just starts with practicing, like making a little game instead of an epic new Final Fantasy or Dragon Quest, as he wishes it was, which we all could play, tell him what was good, what was bad, taking our advices instead of thinking he is the best game maker out there, then, only then he could improve.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Esmeralda on April 03, 2012, 06:06:20 PM
I didn't improve in a day, no, but I at least took the bad comments on board, despite being a dick about them.
So yeah, it's really easy to improve if you just listen and don't be an arse about it.

But he's not being an arse ;o he might ignore things but he's hardly being mean about it. I haven't seen him say a single mean thing to anyone.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on April 04, 2012, 01:13:25 AM
well since i'm worst on grammar and spelling i was thinking to make the next version community fixes (which the community fix all the bugs and error...)

here is the incomplete version 0.2 file which the maps and other stuff is incomplete...
but you can see i fix some of the maps but you can fix it. if you want...
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?1b3qh6mznbb9d4z
the community can fix any bugs and grammar if they find it...
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: strike on April 04, 2012, 03:07:20 AM
no, we aren't fixing your shit game.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: skaraflame on April 04, 2012, 08:51:10 AM
1. It's easy to find, it's everywhere.
2. Mate, no, we are not fixing your broken, unplayable trainwreck of a game. You fix it yourself, it's your game. Don't be f**king lazy.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on April 07, 2012, 01:54:37 AM
version 0.2 pre-released is now available to download.
http://rpgmaker.net/games/3926/
the pre-released only contain chapter 1.
please try to start a new game to see improvement.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Rief on April 07, 2012, 09:15:30 AM
WTF, pre-release?
You know that this would mean a Full Version that is released to a bunch of special people before the official public release?
And whats with your Versionnumbers?
if Version 0.1 includes chapter 1, and v0.1b includes chapter 1 with bugfixes and such, v0.2 should at least have the new chapter Oo
But, oh well, maybe you just don't know what should happen in chapter 2, da hell, it seems you don't even know what should happen in chapter 1 even so you released that already Oo
I don't even know why I give a f*ck anymore...
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: skaraflame on April 07, 2012, 11:02:16 AM
Oh no, the previous version have some of chapter 2. This means that the game ends after 5 minutes when "it look like your mother is fake"
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Capua Aelita on April 07, 2012, 11:57:49 AM
I don't know what you guys are talking about. This game is awesome. ;)
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: tSwitch on April 10, 2012, 03:36:58 AM
The topic has been split into The Basher Bashing Bash (http://rmrk.net/index.php/topic,45695.0.html), please keep posts here related to Future Helper.

~The Administration
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on April 23, 2012, 12:52:39 PM
since my trial is expired.
i will had to paused the development and i cannot give you the latest build with changes in maps and everything.
and also soon i will get the full version soon...
since i'm not in a hurry from now i can make the game without problems and it will added a ton of time to build it.
so if i resume production i will remake the whole games. right from the start.
currently the remake version will removed a lot of feature.
and the notable feature is the global net since it give me a ton of bugs when testing the result is corruption of game file(luckily i got 20 backup) and blue screen of death.(i cannot give you the codes for your own safety)

so production is on hitus until further notice.

-jomarcenter game development.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: D&P3 on April 23, 2012, 01:30:24 PM
What was the global net supposed to do in the first place?

I thought it was supposed to be an internet connected battle system between players of the game.
But then I subtracted that thought after seeing the way the game was developed and assumed that it was an in-game battle system against virtual monsters (Yes, virtual monsters in a virtual world, who would've thought ::)).

Anyway... Fixed
Quote from: Jomarcenter
Since my trial of VXA has expired I will have to temporarily pause the development of my future helpers game, and I am unable to give you the latest build with most recent changes in maps and such.
I will endeavour to get the full version of VXA soon, so that I may continue with this project.
Since I am no longer burdened by the necessity of completing as much as possible before my trial runs out; my next build of the game will feature more gorgeous maps and beautiful eventing.
So if I so desire to continue with the development of this game (among all my other crazy ideas that I have come up with over the course of the past few weeks), then I shall have to restart the project from the beginning.
The remade version will have a lot of features removed, most notably is the Global net feature since it gave me a lot of bugs and even somehow manged to corrupt my game, luckily I'm a smart boy and kept backups of my game which saved me from having to rebuild the game completely from scratch (even after I got the blue screen of death).
I refuse to give you the code that destroyed my game for your own safety, please understand, your safety is important to me.

- Jomarcenter Game Development.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: skaraflame on April 23, 2012, 06:08:19 PM
since my trial is expired.
i will had to paused the development and i cannot give you the latest build with changes in maps and everything.
and also soon i will get the full version soon...
since i'm not in a hurry from now i can make the game without problems and it will added a ton of time to build it.
so if i resume production i will remake the whole games. right from the start.
currently the remake version will removed a lot of feature.
and the notable feature is the global net since it give me a ton of bugs when testing the result is corruption of game file(luckily i got 20 backup) and blue screen of death.(i cannot give you the codes for your own safety)

so production is on hitus until further notice.

-jomarcenter game development.
No more Future Helper for a while then?
FANTASTIC!!
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Lethrface on April 23, 2012, 07:10:26 PM
since my trial is expired.
i will had to paused the development and i cannot give you the latest build with changes in maps and everything.
and also soon i will get the full version soon...
since i'm not in a hurry from now i can make the game without problems and it will added a ton of time to build it.
so if i resume production i will remake the whole games. right from the start.
currently the remake version will removed a lot of feature.
and the notable feature is the global net since it give me a ton of bugs when testing the result is corruption of game file(luckily i got 20 backup) and blue screen of death.(i cannot give you the codes for your own safety)

so production is on hitus until further notice.

-jomarcenter game development.

You're full of shit.  You never had any code much less any code that will result in a corruption of a game file or a blue screen of death. 
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: D&P3 on April 23, 2012, 09:18:44 PM
But he cares about your safety ;9
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: skaraflame on April 23, 2012, 09:28:21 PM
He does. He cares about our safety.
Know what? I can't be sarcastic anymore. Jomarcenter, just stop this horrible horrible game. I beg you.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Lethrface on April 24, 2012, 01:51:26 AM
He does. He cares about our safety.
Know what? I can't be sarcastic anymore. Jomarcenter, just stop this horrible horrible game. I beg you.

I can't bring myself to say that.  What I can bring myself to say is: buy the program, learn how it works, rewrite your story, change the title to something more fitting, start over, don't lie about having servers and online functionality, don't pretend to be a team if you're working solo...it's more impressive when someone can make a good game by their self than a bad game with a team.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on April 24, 2012, 02:56:28 AM
great news
someone donated to jomarcenter a paid full version of rpg maker vx ace.
so production is resumed in a very slow and very productive way instead of speedy production.
more great games at jomarcenter soon...

-jomarcenter
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Zylos on April 24, 2012, 04:04:25 AM
...uh, you don't donate programs. I imagine you could purchase a license for someone else, but a giving "free program" probably means it's a hacked version. Also, stop signing your name below your posts please.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on April 24, 2012, 04:19:00 AM
...uh, you don't donate programs. I imagine you could purchase a license for someone else, but a giving "free program" probably means it's a hacked version. Also, stop signing your name below your posts please.
it not a hacked version, someone just purchase it for me, he also use my pc just to do it.

Spoiler for hint:
hint
i lied, i just brought it.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Zylos on April 24, 2012, 04:31:25 AM
Why on earth say that someone donated it to you then? Also, aren't you 13? Where are you getting the money for it?

Well, whatever, I need to leave well enough alone. You have fun.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Rief on April 24, 2012, 07:44:59 AM
...uh, you don't donate programs. I imagine you could purchase a license for someone else, but a giving "free program" probably means it's a hacked version. Also, stop signing your name below your posts please.
it not a hacked version, someone just purchase it for me, he also use my pc just to do it.

Spoiler for hint:
hint
i lied, i just brought it.

By that, you mean you got a keygen and used it so you have a free full version, right?
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: D&P3 on April 24, 2012, 07:49:38 AM
So some random person decided to buy a program costing $3,817 PHP
and cannot be named, that's a shame.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: pacdiggity on April 24, 2012, 12:00:32 PM
If Skaraflame is saying your game is shit, you should probably rethink what you're doing or find a new hobby.

No offence to Skara, but you kind of have a history.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: D&P3 on April 24, 2012, 12:04:49 PM
On the plus side, he isn't charging people to play his game, unlike a certain other game we all know about.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: pacdiggity on April 24, 2012, 12:07:17 PM
Yeah, but Aveyond has been around for years. I don't even know why you'd mention it.

...
:V ?
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: D&P3 on April 24, 2012, 12:19:18 PM
Because Aveyond deserves some money, whereas This (http://rmrk.net/index.php/topic,45472.0.html) does not.

At the very least, I won't shit on a game that isn't commercial (no matter how bad it is).
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: pacdiggity on April 24, 2012, 12:27:22 PM
Because Aveyond deserves some money

Aveyond is an RPG Maker game that is not by Reives.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: chewey on April 24, 2012, 01:26:33 PM
...uh, you don't donate programs. I imagine you could purchase a license for someone else, but a giving "free program" probably means it's a hacked version. Also, stop signing your name below your posts please.
I have no idea why you are taking issue with him using the word donate - it isn't like he used the word incorrectly. It may sound a little strange (I think it's totally fine, actually), but it's clear his English skills aren't perfect so I really don't see why it matters. Should I pick on you for this bizarre quoting of free program in your post?

Cos I have no idea why you did that.

Spoiler for:
WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOUR BRAIN?!
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Zylos on April 24, 2012, 03:51:01 PM
I have no idea why you're taking issue with me for my issue of the word donate. The reason I idly questioned it was because the first image I got from him suddenly saying that he got it for free (after weeks of trying to convince us to give him a free version) was like a guy giving away free candy from a beat up old white van:

"Hey. Hey kid. You want to use the program for free?"  :rtroll:


The fact that he, a thirteen year old, is now saying that he bought it himself makes me question it even more, but I guess it's none of our business. Just an amusing train of thought.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Rief on April 24, 2012, 08:08:40 PM
Well, which one of us had no credit card when he was thirteen?
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Mushu on April 24, 2012, 09:38:52 PM
Well, which one of us had no credit card when he was thirteen?
I got a credit card a couple months ago, not to mention I got my debit card a year ago. :P
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: skaraflame on April 24, 2012, 10:09:57 PM
Soo... More Future Helper then? DAMMIT. I THOUGHT I WAS FREE.
Seriously, it's a horrible game.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Mushu on April 24, 2012, 10:30:36 PM
Soo... More Future Helper then? DAMMIT. I THOUGHT I WAS FREE.
Seriously, it's a horrible game.
It's useless to just say their game is horrible, at the very least you should say why it's horrible and tell them what they could work on.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: chewey on April 24, 2012, 10:36:56 PM
I have no idea why you're taking issue with me for my issue of the word donate. The reason I idly questioned it was because the first image I got from him suddenly saying that he got it for free (after weeks of trying to convince us to give him a free version) was like a guy giving away free candy from a beat up old white van:

"Hey. Hey kid. You want to use the program for free?"  :rtroll:


The fact that he, a thirteen year old, is now saying that he bought it himself makes me question it even more, but I guess it's none of our business. Just an amusing train of thought.
Yeah, whatever. The point is you implied he used the word donate incorrectly. Then you put some phat quotes around free program, which didn't really make any sense. You could have said "Yo dude you probably just pirated it" without surrounding it with shit that don't make sense, dig?

I really don't care if he pirated the program. I can understand why he would be wary to admit it to a crowd of hostile people, though.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: skaraflame on April 24, 2012, 10:39:58 PM
Soo... More Future Helper then? DAMMIT. I THOUGHT I WAS FREE.
Seriously, it's a horrible game.
It's useless to just say their game is horrible, at the very least you should say why it's horrible and tell them what they could work on.
Why bother? We've all done it already. Several times.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Mushu on April 24, 2012, 10:42:10 PM
Why bother? We've all done it already. Several times.
Well, you still care enough to keep posting in this thread right?
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Lethrface on April 24, 2012, 11:02:38 PM
...uh, you don't donate programs. I imagine you could purchase a license for someone else, but a giving "free program" probably means it's a hacked version. Also, stop signing your name below your posts please.
it not a hacked version, someone just purchase it for me, he also use my pc just to do it.

Spoiler for hint:
hint
i lied, i just brought it.

By that, you mean you got a keygen and used it so you have a free full version, right?

As far as I know, there is no keygen for it due to it's verification process.  The original RMXP used to have a keygen and so did VX (i think) but after an update or a rerelease of the trial software, I do believe they changed their verification process.  I think the only way to crack it is the just manually modify the EXE and release it (but you know... not that I support that or anything lol).

Because Aveyond deserves some money, whereas This (http://rmrk.net/index.php/topic,45472.0.html) does not.

At the very least, I won't shit on a game that isn't commercial (no matter how bad it is).

I disagree about Aveyond deserving money but I don't speak for the masses.  I just wouldn't want to spend my money on it.

Regardless of anything, I pretty much agree with most of what you guys said.

Futurehelper is terrible.

Jomar, just start over and maybe make something totally different.  If you want to make a "universe" type of thing where you make a few games based around that one universe, just make sure that one game has enough of those elements to derive other games off of it and make them GOOD or else nobody will want to play them except just to see how bad they are. 
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on April 25, 2012, 12:12:40 AM
just you all wait for few month since i going to make the game more fun (since now i have more time from now and i don't need to speed it all up again)
because the cause of the problem is called "in a hurry" situation. so it will took a few month to change the maps and all of the other things. just don't make fun of the game.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Lethrface on April 25, 2012, 12:33:25 AM
just you all wait for few month since i going to make the game more fun (since now i have more time from now and i don't need to speed it all up again)
because the cause of the problem is called "in a hurry" situation. so it will took a few month to change the maps and all of the other things. just don't make fun of the game.

While you're at it, take more time when writing your posts so we can understand what the fuck you are saying....

One more thing.  If you don't want your game made fun of, don't release it to the public.  By doing so, you are making yourself susceptible to the opinions of everyone and if it is a bad game, it will get made fun of.  It's just a fact of life.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: chewey on April 25, 2012, 01:03:36 AM
I can understand him just fine. Have some more understanding for somebody speaking a second language, my man.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on April 25, 2012, 05:17:40 AM
changes in version 0.3 remake
since i got a full version of rpg maker vx ace i have more time to changes what wrong with everything.

possible changes

main changes

Spoiler for:
- big changes in intro. (no more text based intro)
- name changes.
- chapter 1 changes.
- character room changes.
- new maps.
- chapter 2 and 3 added.
- complete grammar and spelling fix.
-cut scene improved.

maps

Spoiler for:
- alex (fake?) house get a new makeover.
- lat st. and marketplace had been separated map.
- central city square now get a new makeover.
- future helper base get a new makeover.
- added roque city. (note: this is its true name it not a spelling error)
- added faith city. (note: this is its true name it not a spelling error)
- alex's real hometown added. (note: part of the intro only!!!)

feature/misc.

--removed

Spoiler for:
-global net removed.

--added

Spoiler for:
- sub mission.
- transformation.
- battle system changes.
- central city get a new makeover.
- n-pad system.

some changes are kept secret

livestream on April 25
www.livestream.com/jomarcenter
-thank you
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Acolyte on April 25, 2012, 05:33:01 AM
I have no idea why you're taking issue with me for my issue of the word donate. The reason I idly questioned it was because the first image I got from him suddenly saying that he got it for free (after weeks of trying to convince us to give him a free version) was like a guy giving away free candy from a beat up old white van:

"Hey. Hey kid. You want to use the program for free?"  :rtroll:


The fact that he, a thirteen year old, is now saying that he bought it himself makes me question it even more, but I guess it's none of our business. Just an amusing train of thought.
Yeah, whatever. The point is you implied he used the word donate incorrectly. Then you put some phat quotes around free program, which didn't really make any sense. You could have said "Yo dude you probably just pirated it" without surrounding it with shit that don't make sense, dig?

I really don't care if he pirated the program. I can understand why he would be wary to admit it to a crowd of hostile people, though.

Oh, I get it! Chewey's joking again! AHAHAHAHA YOU'RE SO FUNNY, CHEWEY! Where would RMRK be without your humor?  ;8
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: mobychan on April 25, 2012, 06:44:03 AM
changes in version 0.3 remake
since i got a full version of rpg maker vx ace i have more time to changes what wrong with everything.

possible changes

main changes

Spoiler for:
- big changes in intro. (no more text based intro)
- name changes.
- chapter 1 changes.
- character room changes.
- new maps.
- chapter 2 and 3 added.
- complete grammar and spelling fix.
-cut scene improved.

maps

Spoiler for:
- alex (fake?) house get a new makeover.
- lat st. and marketplace had been separated map.
- central city square now get a new makeover.
- future helper base get a new makeover.
- added roque city. (note: this is its true name it not a spelling error)
- added faith city. (note: this is its true name it not a spelling error)
- alex's real hometown added. (note: part of the intro only!!!)

feature/misc.

--removed

Spoiler for:
-global net removed.

--added

Spoiler for:
- sub mission.
- transformation.
- battle system changes.
- central city get a new makeover.
- n-pad system.

some changes are kept secret

livestream on April 25
www.livestream.com/jomarcenter
-thank you


So you'll change everything...
Just delete the project and start a new one. It's easier.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Rief on April 25, 2012, 06:52:01 AM
just you all wait for few month since i going to make the game more fun (since now i have more time from now and i don't need to speed it all up again)
because the cause of the problem is called "in a hurry" situation. so it will took a few month to change the maps and all of the other things. just don't make fun of the game.

No, jomar, just no!
The crappiness of your Game comes from EVERYTHING this game is about! You cannot blame time for it. I will say it clearly, the whole idea you have is just shit. At least that what we saw.
I will say it again and again, LEARN ENGLISH BEFORE YOU MAKE AN ENGLISH GAME!

And no, i won't accept the excuse that english is your second language. With me it is the same, but my english was way better when i was 13. Why? Cause i wanted to learn it and did something for it!
I played several Games in english, watched Movies and such in english, that helped me more than the stupid school-english (I don't know how it is in the phillipines, but in germany, the english you learn at school is basically just learning how to say "This is John. John has a house. He lives in this house. John has a dog.")

Maybe your game could be fun, but not in a few months.
Oh, and about your "don't make fun of my game", you, in my eyes, make fun of everyone uf us who tries to make a decent game by making such a shitty game AND (and here is the point) believing that it is a masterpiece everyone wants to play.

Period.
Three times if you wish...
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: chewey on April 25, 2012, 07:09:42 AM
I have no idea why you're taking issue with me for my issue of the word donate. The reason I idly questioned it was because the first image I got from him suddenly saying that he got it for free (after weeks of trying to convince us to give him a free version) was like a guy giving away free candy from a beat up old white van:

"Hey. Hey kid. You want to use the program for free?"  :rtroll:


The fact that he, a thirteen year old, is now saying that he bought it himself makes me question it even more, but I guess it's none of our business. Just an amusing train of thought.
Yeah, whatever. The point is you implied he used the word donate incorrectly. Then you put some phat quotes around free program, which didn't really make any sense. You could have said "Yo dude you probably just pirated it" without surrounding it with shit that don't make sense, dig?

I really don't care if he pirated the program. I can understand why he would be wary to admit it to a crowd of hostile people, though.

Oh, I get it! Chewey's joking again! AHAHAHAHA YOU'RE SO FUNNY, CHEWEY! Where would RMRK be without your humor?  ;8
Are you mad or something? You should chill out.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Acolyte on April 25, 2012, 07:30:37 AM
Nope, not mad. Just appreciating your wacky sense of humor.  ;8
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: chewey on April 25, 2012, 07:35:05 AM
You're acting strange. Something tells me you're not being sincere...
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on April 25, 2012, 08:04:35 AM
changes in version 0.3 remake
since i got a full version of rpg maker vx ace i have more time to changes what wrong with everything.

possible changes

main changes

Spoiler for:
- big changes in intro. (no more text based intro)
- name changes.
- chapter 1 changes.
- character room changes.
- new maps.
- chapter 2 and 3 added.
- complete grammar and spelling fix.
-cut scene improved.

maps

Spoiler for:
- alex (fake?) house get a new makeover.
- lat st. and marketplace had been separated map.
- central city square now get a new makeover.
- future helper base get a new makeover.
- added roque city. (note: this is its true name it not a spelling error)
- added faith city. (note: this is its true name it not a spelling error)
- alex's real hometown added. (note: part of the intro only!!!)

feature/misc.

--removed

Spoiler for:
-global net removed.

--added

Spoiler for:
- sub mission.
- transformation.
- battle system changes.
- central city get a new makeover.
- n-pad system.

some changes are kept secret

livestream on April 25
www.livestream.com/jomarcenter
-thank you


So you'll change everything...
Just delete the project and start a new one. It's easier.
that what i'm trying to do i just started a new one.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Rief on April 25, 2012, 08:35:52 AM
Jomar, you know what your game is missing?

Spoiler for:
Non-Existence
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on April 25, 2012, 09:24:56 AM
updates.

here is some screen shot on the intro section of the game

jomarcenter game present screen
Spoiler for intro scene:
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Frpgmaker.net%2Fmedia%2Fcontent%2Fgames%2F3926%2Fscreenshots%2Fnew_intro_fhst_002.png&hash=e133da62bb37fdebdbf02d25c2ef9c65cf218d94)
Spoiler for future helper intro logo:
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Frpgmaker.net%2Fmedia%2Fcontent%2Fgames%2F3926%2Fscreenshots%2Fintro_logo.png&hash=1ff83de978e44da3138d082ff66cc588895e56bf)
seven tower/angele kingdom
Spoiler for:
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Frpgmaker.net%2Fmedia%2Fcontent%2Fgames%2F3926%2Fscreenshots%2Fangele_kingdom.png&hash=d58036c15700029ab49968d5de3b78dd0078796e)

those picture are part of the intro scene for the game.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: D&P3 on April 25, 2012, 09:36:51 AM
I think that looks pretty nice :)
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on April 25, 2012, 10:15:47 AM
i'm going to try new installation system than the current install from the program itself.
i'm going to use install creator from click team
http://www.clickteam.com/website/usa/install-creator.html

i'm going to test this program by making a install system in it.
i'm going to use it on the old version 0.2 if it work on other computer.
and also anyone can help out testing the program installer file.
just pm me if you want to try out other installing method and i will sent you the file for you to test.
so that the install will look like a professional installer.
and also if you satisfied the result you can also use it in your game and later i will add a tutorial on how to use install creator on rpg maker games.
if there any problem just sent me a pm if what is the problem and i will fix it.
and it safe since i been using click team's game factory 2, so i was thinking it is safe.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: D&P3 on April 25, 2012, 10:27:58 AM
I don't think you really need a tester for something like that, but I'm willing to test your installer if you feel like you really need it.

On your maps, I noticed a few oversights that you should look at.

You should be able to figure out the problems with them.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: DoctorTodd on April 25, 2012, 11:23:03 AM
It should work fine, I use the Clickteam installer for my games.  :)
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Gracie on April 25, 2012, 05:08:18 PM
You're acting strange. Something tells me you're not being sincere...
I agree. You came off as really sarcastic there Aco O-o
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Acolyte on April 25, 2012, 07:43:29 PM
Sarcasm? Me? Why, I would never. :V
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: pacdiggity on April 25, 2012, 08:46:58 PM
Yeah guys, Aco's the queen of srz. She's like almost living with the king of sincerity and not-joking-ness.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: chewey on April 25, 2012, 09:30:37 PM
Is that why she's so upset? Women are weird.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Acolyte on April 25, 2012, 10:15:54 PM
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F27.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_lu7hzpMqxv1r5jtugo1_400.gif&hash=7d47028c45e906386f5fdd8803e8a3252ac539e4)
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: yuyu! on April 25, 2012, 11:00:32 PM
DIDNEY

WORL

WHIRL

??!?
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on April 25, 2012, 11:16:18 PM
now it happening again. *sigh*
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: skaraflame on April 26, 2012, 01:51:42 AM
Let's hope it stays this way.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Acolyte on April 26, 2012, 01:56:08 AM
Hey now, I wasn't intentionally trying to derail the thread. Jomar, I'm sorry. Please continue with any development updates you may have.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: skaraflame on April 26, 2012, 10:12:46 AM
We'd all love this terrible game to continue.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Acolyte on April 26, 2012, 08:37:59 PM
Skara, everyone starts out terribly. You should know this especially. He looks like he's starting to improve a bit. Let him.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Lethrface on April 26, 2012, 08:55:49 PM
Skara, everyone starts out terribly. You should know this especially. He looks like he's starting to improve a bit. Let him.

^truth.  His world map already looks a hell of a lot better than his maps have been.  That's one thing at least.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on April 27, 2012, 02:27:23 AM
here is the new mapping

alex's house
Spoiler for:
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Frpgmaker.net%2Fmedia%2Fcontent%2Fgames%2F3926%2Fscreenshots%2Falex_housse_renew.png&hash=6bb13bfdb4b8ac3f34afb3b1e8d5b72c44f8d450)
this is the changes in alex's house mapping.
and later i will released some other maps images that you may like on.

and since the previous version i notice that the "I don't know why i got all? these clothes at least I'm rich!!!" quote it now turning into a meme.
so i going to submit this quote as a meme in know your meme if anyone want to.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Lethrface on April 27, 2012, 02:48:01 AM
It looks much better but it still looks like you have too much space per room  You should really cut down on the size of your rooms.  They could probably be cut down to half the size to be quite honest. 
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on April 27, 2012, 03:45:34 AM
the "I don't know why i got all? these clothes at least I'm rich!!!"  quote just ended up as a meme on know your meme.
check it out!
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/i-dont-know-why-i-got-all-these-clothes-at-least-im-rich (http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/i-dont-know-why-i-got-all-these-clothes-at-least-im-rich)
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: modern algebra on April 27, 2012, 03:51:56 AM
I think "ended up" is poor word choice, as it implies that you didn't write the entry yourself.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Zylos on April 27, 2012, 03:57:58 AM
According to the dictionary, a meme is "an idea, behavior, style, or usage that spreads from person to person within a culture". In other words, it's something that grows popular from the act of multiple people spreading it within a group. You uploading something you created yourself, editing it yourself, and laughing at it yourself does not even remotely make it a meme. Heck, RMRK laughing and repeating "we're all dommed!" could be seen as more of a meme than what you're trying to do, and that was more to make fun of your poor grammar.

I'm trying to be nice here because I know you're young, but please settle yourself down and focus more on improving your game creation abilities and creating a good game before trying to push and promote your game through silly outlets.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Lethrface on April 27, 2012, 04:48:06 AM
According to the dictionary, a meme is "an idea, behavior, style, or usage that spreads from person to person within a culture". In other words, it's something that grows popular from the act of multiple people spreading it within a group. You uploading something you created yourself, editing it yourself, and laughing at it yourself does not even remotely make it a meme. Heck, RMRK laughing and repeating "we're all dommed!" could be seen as more of a meme than what you're trying to do, and that was more to make fun of your poor grammar.

I'm trying to be nice here because I know you're young, but please settle yourself down and focus more on improving your game creation abilities and creating a good game before trying to push and promote your game through silly outlets.

Seriously.  Quoted for truth.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Rief on April 27, 2012, 05:19:02 AM
According to the dictionary, a meme is "an idea, behavior, style, or usage that spreads from person to person within a culture". In other words, it's something that grows popular from the act of multiple people spreading it within a group. You uploading something you created yourself, editing it yourself, and laughing at it yourself does not even remotely make it a meme. Heck, RMRK laughing and repeating "we're all dommed!" could be seen as more of a meme than what you're trying to do, and that was more to make fun of your poor grammar.

I'm trying to be nice here because I know you're young, but please settle yourself down and focus more on improving your game creation abilities and creating a good game before trying to push and promote your game through silly outlets.

signed.
How can he be so extremely full of himself?

Well, his mapping got better, that is true, but that doesn't mean that it is good, it still is horrible, it's just less horrible then before.
But, jomar, you do have improved, even if it's just a little. Anyway, it is still too early to make a game as grand as you planned this game to be.

Oh, btw, is the seven tower a special tower? "Future Helper and the seven Tower" does, in my opinion, not imply that there are seven towers but one, which is called the "Seven Tower".
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Holkeye on April 27, 2012, 05:32:48 AM
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdl.dropbox.com%2Fu%2F1050151%2Fdumb.jpg&hash=d19d7ce09bc249d8d2e93e2dc4aa29b46a41e77d)
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on April 27, 2012, 06:12:12 AM
According to the dictionary, a meme is "an idea, behavior, style, or usage that spreads from person to person within a culture". In other words, it's something that grows popular from the act of multiple people spreading it within a group. You uploading something you created yourself, editing it yourself, and laughing at it yourself does not even remotely make it a meme. Heck, RMRK laughing and repeating "we're all dommed!" could be seen as more of a meme than what you're trying to do, and that was more to make fun of your poor grammar.

I'm trying to be nice here because I know you're young, but please settle yourself down and focus more on improving your game creation abilities and creating a good game before trying to push and promote your game through silly outlets.

signed.
How can he be so extremely full of himself?

Well, his mapping got better, that is true, but that doesn't mean that it is good, it still is horrible, it's just less horrible then before.
But, jomar, you do have improved, even if it's just a little. Anyway, it is still too early to make a game as grand as you planned this game to be.

Oh, btw, is the seven tower a special tower? "Future Helper and the seven Tower" does, in my opinion, not imply that there are seven towers but one, which is called the "Seven Tower".
so you don't understand why is called the seven tower.
here a hint
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Frpgmaker.net%2Fmedia%2Fcontent%2Fgames%2F3926%2Fscreenshots%2Fangele_kingdom.png&hash=d58036c15700029ab49968d5de3b78dd0078796e)
how many towers you see in the image?

and it planned as a series. because after this i'm going to make future helper science & magic: family reunion war which is part of the future helper & future helper science & magic series.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Zylos on April 27, 2012, 06:17:04 AM
I believe she was referring to the fact that your title lacks a plural form for "tower", thus making it sound like there is only one single tower which goes by the name "Seven".

Also, for reference. Your maps are improving, but you still need a lot of work. Compare this quick fifteen minute mockup I made based on your latest screenshot to what you've got now of Alex's house:

(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FEQhmb.png&hash=df53c33477c581adccede99e21a7488051c3a1e0)


Now, I'm not much of a mapper, I absolutely loath most of the VX tilesets, and didn't even finish filling out what details I wanted to add in. I don't even have the slightest idea what's supposed to be where, I'm only basing the mockup on the map you showed us. But, I think everyone here would agree that my mockup's mapping here is superior to your mapping, no boasting intended. Why do you think that may be? What differences do you see between mine and yours? What do you think you can do to improve yours?

For starters, add some symmetry. It doesn't ever have to be exact, but look how uneven yours is. You've got walls jutting waaaay out of position, and rooms startlingly larger than other ones despite being in the same hallway with a staircase that's clearly supposed to be centered. Organize your blueprint so that it makes more sense of an actual house someone would live in. Next, cut down on size to be a bit more practical. Hell, even the rooms in mine are a bit too spacious, especially the bedroom. Who has a bedroom the size of a living room? Once you've cut it down to be a more realistic size, fill up the blank spaces with some detail, as much as would seem appropriate if you were to actually be in that room. Do whatever you can to make sure the room doesn't feel empty, but without going overboard and adding so much that it looks like Enterbrain vomited its RTP onto your map. Thirdly, watch where your walls are. If you have a ceiling tile, make sure you include a wall tile to go with it, or else it'll just look weird.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on April 27, 2012, 06:22:43 AM
I believe she was referring to the fact that your title lacks a plural form for "tower", thus making it sound like there is only one single tower which goes by the name "Seven".

Also, for reference. Your maps are improving, but you still need a lot of work. Compare this quick fifteen minute mockup I made based on your latest screenshot to what you've got now of Alex's house:

(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FEQhmb.png&hash=df53c33477c581adccede99e21a7488051c3a1e0)


Now, I'm not much of a mapper, I absolutely loath most of the VX tilesets, and didn't even finish filling out what details I wanted to add in. I don't even have the slightest idea what's supposed to be where, I'm only basing the mockup on the map you showed us. But, I think everyone here would agree that my mockup's mapping here is superior to your mapping, no boasting intended. Why do you think that may be? What differences do you see between mine and yours? What do you think you can do to improve yours?

For starters, add some symmetry. It doesn't ever have to be exact, but look how uneven yours is. You've got walls jutting waaaay out of position, and rooms startlingly larger than other ones despite being in the same hallway with a staircase that's clearly supposed to be centered. Organize your blueprint so that it makes more sense of an actual house someone would live in. Next, cut down on size to be a bit more practical. Hell, even the rooms in mine are a bit too spacious, especially the bedroom. Who has a bedroom the size of a living room? Once you've cut it down to be a more realistic size, fill up the blank spaces with some detail, as much as would seem appropriate if you were to actually be in that room. Do whatever you can to make sure the room doesn't feel empty, but without going overboard and adding so much that it looks like Enterbrain vomited its RTP onto your map. Thirdly, watch where your walls are. If you have a ceiling tile, make sure you include a wall tile to go with it, or else it'll just look weird.
thank for the help and also i was thinking using that map version, can you upload the map file to somewhere and pm me. at least you give me an idea for other maps.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Rief on April 27, 2012, 06:55:11 AM
According to the dictionary, a meme is "an idea, behavior, style, or usage that spreads from person to person within a culture". In other words, it's something that grows popular from the act of multiple people spreading it within a group. You uploading something you created yourself, editing it yourself, and laughing at it yourself does not even remotely make it a meme. Heck, RMRK laughing and repeating "we're all dommed!" could be seen as more of a meme than what you're trying to do, and that was more to make fun of your poor grammar.

I'm trying to be nice here because I know you're young, but please settle yourself down and focus more on improving your game creation abilities and creating a good game before trying to push and promote your game through silly outlets.

signed.
How can he be so extremely full of himself?

Well, his mapping got better, that is true, but that doesn't mean that it is good, it still is horrible, it's just less horrible then before.
But, jomar, you do have improved, even if it's just a little. Anyway, it is still too early to make a game as grand as you planned this game to be.

Oh, btw, is the seven tower a special tower? "Future Helper and the seven Tower" does, in my opinion, not imply that there are seven towers but one, which is called the "Seven Tower".
so you don't understand why is called the seven tower.
here a hint
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Frpgmaker.net%2Fmedia%2Fcontent%2Fgames%2F3926%2Fscreenshots%2Fangele_kingdom.png&hash=d58036c15700029ab49968d5de3b78dd0078796e)
how many towers you see in the image?

and it planned as a series. because after this i'm going to make future helper science & magic: family reunion war which is part of the future helper & future helper science & magic series.

Am i a future helper when i can see into the future? Cause i saw it coming that you won't understand what i mean...
Mysterical...

Okay, i counted, now i know, that is SO OBVIOUS! It is called seven tower cause there are six towers, wow, why couldn't i think of THAT???!!!
Unbelievable!

I meant it exact like zylos was posting, and it would make perfect sense if there is only one tower named "Seven Tower", that name does not imply that there are seven.
E.g. in Pandoras Tower they call them the "13 Towers", but it is more like there is only one Tower, with thirteen towerlike buildings ontop of that one tower.

Oh, and Zylos, btw, i just looked and found out that i am male XD
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Acolyte on April 27, 2012, 06:58:29 AM
What the hell are you even talking about? For someone complaining about a guy's English, you seem to have a pretty bad grasp of it yourself.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: haloOfTheSun on April 27, 2012, 07:02:07 AM
what be English is you are???
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on April 27, 2012, 07:04:01 AM
According to the dictionary, a meme is "an idea, behavior, style, or usage that spreads from person to person within a culture". In other words, it's something that grows popular from the act of multiple people spreading it within a group. You uploading something you created yourself, editing it yourself, and laughing at it yourself does not even remotely make it a meme. Heck, RMRK laughing and repeating "we're all dommed!" could be seen as more of a meme than what you're trying to do, and that was more to make fun of your poor grammar.

I'm trying to be nice here because I know you're young, but please settle yourself down and focus more on improving your game creation abilities and creating a good game before trying to push and promote your game through silly outlets.

signed.
How can he be so extremely full of himself?

Well, his mapping got better, that is true, but that doesn't mean that it is good, it still is horrible, it's just less horrible then before.
But, jomar, you do have improved, even if it's just a little. Anyway, it is still too early to make a game as grand as you planned this game to be.

Oh, btw, is the seven tower a special tower? "Future Helper and the seven Tower" does, in my opinion, not imply that there are seven towers but one, which is called the "Seven Tower".
so you don't understand why is called the seven tower.
here a hint
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Frpgmaker.net%2Fmedia%2Fcontent%2Fgames%2F3926%2Fscreenshots%2Fangele_kingdom.png&hash=d58036c15700029ab49968d5de3b78dd0078796e)
how many towers you see in the image?

and it planned as a series. because after this i'm going to make future helper science & magic: family reunion war which is part of the future helper & future helper science & magic series.

Am i a future helper when i can see into the future? Cause i saw it coming that you won't understand what i mean...
Mysterical...

Okay, i counted, now i know, that is SO OBVIOUS! It is called seven tower cause there are six towers, wow, why couldn't i think of THAT???!!!
Unbelievable!

I meant it exact like zylos was posting, and it would make perfect sense if there is only one tower named "Seven Tower", that name does not imply that there are seven.
E.g. in Pandoras Tower they call them the "13 Towers", but it is more like there is only one Tower, with thirteen towerlike buildings ontop of that one tower.

Oh, and Zylos, btw, i just looked and found out that i am male XD
there is 6 tower on the outside and there is 1 tower on the inside (look at the middle). so you count all the tower that make seven!!!
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Lethrface on April 27, 2012, 07:32:10 AM
there is 6 tower on the outside and there is 1 tower on the inside (look at the middle). so you count all the tower that make seven!!!
That doesn't look like a tower.  I actually assumed that the tower was in the clouds on the floating island.

What the hell are you even talking about? For someone complaining about a guy's English, you seem to have a pretty bad grasp of it yourself.

So I'm not the only one who found that to be ironic?
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Karo Rushe on April 27, 2012, 07:34:32 AM
Umm, no, That one in the middle didn't probably give that 'I'm the Seven Tower', You might want to take note on that. I actually thought it was the flying island.

there is 6 tower on the outside and there is 1 tower on the inside (look at the middle). so you count all the tower that make seven!!!
That doesn't look like a tower.  I actually assumed that the tower was in the clouds on the floating island.

Argh! You beat me to it  :mad:
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: pacdiggity on April 27, 2012, 08:18:35 AM
there are six towers

...
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on April 27, 2012, 08:23:55 AM
Umm, no, That one in the middle didn't probably give that 'I'm the Seven Tower', You might want to take note on that. I actually thought it was the flying island.

there is 6 tower on the outside and there is 1 tower on the inside (look at the middle). so you count all the tower that make seven!!!
That doesn't look like a tower.  I actually assumed that the tower was in the clouds on the floating island.

Argh! You beat me to it  :mad:
sooner or later i will tell you what in that floating island soon..
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on April 27, 2012, 10:44:42 AM
updates here is some of the screen shot.

before-main menu intro scene
Spoiler for:
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Frpgmaker.net%2Fmedia%2Fcontent%2Fgames%2F3926%2Fscreenshots%2Fpreview_03_1.png&hash=82a1fab82df2a7853e7ee6e26252ed0cb4b3ea76)
this is take place in year 3XXX before He go back to year 192 to Fix what he had done which is the case the future helper and the seven towers event started.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Rief on April 27, 2012, 11:19:53 AM
A carpet in a cave?
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on April 27, 2012, 11:23:30 AM
A carpet in a cave?
i cannot find a ripped carpet in the tileset ya know.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: mobychan on April 27, 2012, 11:50:20 AM
Ripped or not, if this room doesn't belong to a castle or something like that it's strange...
May I ask, what effect you want to create with it and/or where one comes from when entering there?
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Esmeralda on April 27, 2012, 11:59:12 AM
It's perfectly reasonable to place a carpet in a cave if you play to congregate there. It'll keep your feet clean and provide comfortable grounding. If jomar wanted he could put a carpet in a volcano; there are no rules regarding where you're allowed to place carpets. I once placed a carpet on a beach.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: mobychan on April 27, 2012, 12:01:20 PM
Sure, but in my opinion it's easier to understand for everybody else, if there's an explanation of some sort.
But do as you want.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on April 27, 2012, 12:04:41 PM
sooner or later i will uploading some concept art as a bonus package for the game. (a.k.a. collector edition)
so check on the future helper files when version 0.3 released.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Rief on April 27, 2012, 12:18:19 PM
Please post some of this Art here, i'm really interested in your artistic skills (and i mean it like i say it, wothout any sarcasm, maybe he is very good at drawing, who knows?)

And about the carpet: sure, it CAN be there, but it looks very strange to have a carpet in a cave. But, with the right explanation, a carpet can be everywhere. It just seems out of place in that screenshot.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Zylos on April 27, 2012, 12:26:36 PM
Again though, I'd rather see the full, finished game as fixed and polished as possible before any "collector's editions". You can worry about advertising your game when you actually have something, preferably something worth our time.

Also no, I'm not sending you the map I made because the whole point of making it was to try to help you LEARN to make one like it on your own. I want you to show me that you can take some criticism and improve yourself as well as your game.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Lethrface on April 27, 2012, 02:59:07 PM
Umm, no, That one in the middle didn't probably give that 'I'm the Seven Tower', You might want to take note on that. I actually thought it was the flying island.

there is 6 tower on the outside and there is 1 tower on the inside (look at the middle). so you count all the tower that make seven!!!
That doesn't look like a tower.  I actually assumed that the tower was in the clouds on the floating island.

Argh! You beat me to it  :mad:
sooner or later i will tell you what in that floating island soon..

I don't care what is in the clouds.  The point I was making is that the tower in the middle looks nothing like a tower.  It looks like a big building or maybe multiple buildings if you take a quick glance at it.  To me, its like comparing an office building to a tower.

Really, some of the stuff you show us or say you plan on showing us is probably better left alone and just keep it secret until you release the full game.  We don't need a progress report every day telling us what you are doing with screenshots.  In fact, concept art is probably the only thing you should be showing off until you have your maps and grammar polished up.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Rief on April 27, 2012, 04:21:01 PM
Correct me if i am wrong, but aren't these towers supposed to be hidden? I remember something from your game like "we found the first tower", so i thought they were secret, but they are all over the place.
Has it a reason that all of them are in Angele Kingdom?

For example: You could put the Tower that is on top of the water under the water. Then it's hard to reach and actually hidden.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Mushu on April 27, 2012, 04:23:47 PM
Correct me if i am wrong, but aren't these towers supposed to be hidden? I remember something from your game like "we found the first tower", so i thought they were secret, but they are all over the place.
Has it a reason that all of them are in Angele Kingdom?

For example: You could put the Tower that is on top of the water under the water. Then it's hard to reach and actually hidden.
If I were him, I would keep the title screen the same (just for looks) then put them in different areas of the world, that's if it is the title screen anyway.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Lethrface on April 27, 2012, 04:27:36 PM
I'm liking the suggestions but I think the most important thing is to flesh out his story better so that when he does change their locations, their locations will make sense.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Tezuka on April 27, 2012, 09:08:10 PM
Future's Savior: The Seven Towers of Time

In the year 192BF (Before Future), is a Kingdom known as Angelé, which also serves as the center of the Seven Towers of Time. A city called Central, seen as the base for technological advancement, lives a young boy name Alexander, who lived with his then-sickly mother. After trying to fight her illness for over a year, she finally meets the last thread of her life. On her deathbed, she tells Alex a secret she has been hiding from him; she is not Alex's real mother.

His mother tells him about his true family, how his mother was a brave warrior, which once saved the world from destruction and sealing the evil in the seven towers, with the power of the magical crystals. Just as she draws her last breath, her final words seal his fate:

"The Towers are weakening...the evil that was once sealed will penetrate its prison...and bring devastation to the world..."

As Alex begins to try and process this new information, his "mother" slowly closes her eyes, finally succumbing to her illness.

Alex knows what he has to do, but he knows he cannot do it alone.

The next morning, he visits the City's local pub to seek mercenaries, where he finds three more warriors up to the task. During his visit, he also hears rumours about a secret organization known as "Future's Savior", apparently helping the world become a better place behind the scenes. With his curiosity peeked, Alex begins to try and find more information on the organization, to see if they can help prevent the impending doom which looms over the world.

Will his quest be a success? Who are Future's Saviour? What will happen in the Seven Towers of Time?

u jus got prank lo
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Karo Rushe on April 27, 2012, 10:32:37 PM
Spoiler for:
Future's Savior: The Seven Towers of Time

In the year 192BF (Before Future), is a Kingdom known as Angelé, which also serves as the center of the Seven Towers of Time. A city called Central, seen as the base for technological advancement, lives a young boy name Alexander, who lived with his then-sickly mother. After trying to fight her illness for over a year, she finally meets the last thread of her life. On her deathbed, she tells Alex a secret she has been hiding from him; she is not Alex's real mother.

His mother tells him about his true family, how his mother was a brave warrior, which once saved the world from destruction and sealing the evil in the seven towers, with the power of the magical crystals. Just as she draws her last breath, her final words seal his fate:

"The Towers are weakening...the evil that was once sealed will penetrate its prison...and bring devastation to the world..."

As Alex begins to try and process this new information, his "mother" slowly closes her eyes, finally succumbing to her illness.

Alex knows what he has to do, but he knows he cannot do it alone.

The next morning, he visits the City's local pub to seek mercenaries, where he finds three more warriors up to the task. During his visit, he also hears rumours about a secret organization known as "Future's Savior", apparently helping the world become a better place behind the scenes. With his curiosity peeked, Alex begins to try and find more information on the organization, to see if they can help prevent the impending doom which looms over the world.

Will his quest be a success? Who are Future's Saviour? What will happen in the Seven Towers of Time?

u jus got prank lo
Congrats, I actually got excited to actually play this and say "FUND IT" . . .
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on April 28, 2012, 11:16:54 AM
Correct me if i am wrong, but aren't these towers supposed to be hidden? I remember something from your game like "we found the first tower", so i thought they were secret, but they are all over the place.
Has it a reason that all of them are in Angele Kingdom?

For example: You could put the Tower that is on top of the water under the water. Then it's hard to reach and actually hidden.

spoiler alert.
Spoiler for:
well the tower was shown but the location of the seven crystal is hidden...
spoiler alert also.
Spoiler for:
and also the floating island is a very secret location which in the later part of the game you will see what inside.
another one omg
Spoiler for:
the seven tower is composed of light, dark, fire, wind, air, water, and life but they are already a time traveling like thing called the time orb as seen in the intro
and some part of your story-line/theories are wrong by the way...
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: D&P3 on April 28, 2012, 11:23:21 AM
Only that last part was a spoiler.
Everything else should be included in your story plot
(I'm talking about your story section you should've included in the first post in this thread).
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on April 28, 2012, 12:18:22 PM
sooner or later i will released a preview on version 0.3 (with and without rtp package)
with rtp will use a different installation method instead of the other one.
and without rtp will only use the default installation method.
and it can be update-able using with rtp but i recommended without rtp for better download time than with rtp.
without rtp will be available to download first (since i have a slow internet connection)
and later with rtp....

the version 0.3 will only contain the refurbished chapter 1 and the 2 intro (before and after main menu)...

thank you
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: skaraflame on April 28, 2012, 02:28:30 PM
Only that last part was a spoiler.
Everything else should be included in your story plot
(I'm talking about your story section you should've included in the first post in this thread).
None of it was spoiler ._.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Lethrface on April 28, 2012, 02:41:02 PM
sooner or later i will released a preview on version 0.3 (with and without rtp package)
with rtp will use a different installation method instead of the other one.
and without rtp will only use the default installation method.
and it can be update-able using with rtp but i recommended without rtp for better download time than with rtp.
without rtp will be available to download first (since i have a slow internet connection)
and later with rtp....

the version 0.3 will only contain the refurbished chapter 1 and the 2 intro (before and after main menu)...

thank you

Please don't use an installer for the non-rtp one.  Just use winrar and zip the folder and give us that.  You don't have to try to be professional with your previews.  We have already beaten chapter 1 before.  If you are going to release another demo, give us more reason to play other than giving us just chapter 1.  To be honest we probably won't be too nice if it still suffers from some of the same problems as it did before so you might want to get some testers (at least one that has exceptional knowledge of grammar) and let them play it before you release a demo of any sort. 

I think if you spent as much time working on your game as you do hyping it here and trying to start new memes, you would have a lot accomplished.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: D&P3 on April 28, 2012, 02:46:17 PM
Nah I was unaware of the types of the towers. That should remain a spoiler, reminds me of golden sun a little bit. Where you need an adept of that type to get in.


Now for a nice suggestion for your story Jomarcenter (because the more you reveal, the less I like your game [It just sounds really bad to me])

Make your towers in a time-travelling loop, they've already got an time travelling orb inside them (or at least that's how I read it), so make them travel through time at random intervals so that you can only access one tower whenever it returns to your timezone and only give a certain amount of time to be able to enter it and continue the main story quest.

Since your game allows players to do other quests besides the main ones, this would work with your game and it gives a nice middle finger to the player if they didn't decide to do the main story quest when it was available because they have to wait for it to return.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on April 29, 2012, 12:59:53 AM
i got good news and bad news.
the good news is the game is ready to released but the bad news is i (maybe ?) got a computer virus and i don't know where it came from.
but i will give you updates if something happen.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Lethrface on April 29, 2012, 01:01:41 AM
the good news is the game is ready to released

So much for taking your time.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Rief on April 29, 2012, 06:27:02 AM
i got good news and bad news.
the good news is the game is ready to released but the bad news is i (maybe ?) got a computer virus and i don't know where it came from.
but i will give you updates if something happen.

The game can't be finished, you haven't told us here how it ends.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on April 30, 2012, 12:47:05 AM
alright everything is back to normal and it just a false alarm hehe....
but the version 0.3 release is delayed and need beta tester... so if anyone of you want to join just ask me.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on April 30, 2012, 06:34:11 AM
concept art time:
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Frpgmaker.net%2Fmedia%2Fcontent%2Fgames%2F3926%2Fscreenshots%2Fcnecept_are_future_helper_and_the_seven_tower.jpg&hash=e7899891ab3dd4562da4fccecf40b721da297cfd)

this is one of the old logo of the future helper and the seven tower using just a pencil and grade A colored pencil
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Mushu on April 30, 2012, 06:36:33 AM
That's impressive.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on April 30, 2012, 06:39:41 AM
That's impressive.
yeah but is isn't end up in the final logo...
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Rief on April 30, 2012, 07:12:07 AM
AT, NH and DE?
Future Helper at seven alex' adventure nh tower de?
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on April 30, 2012, 07:17:53 AM
AT, NH and DE?
Future Helper at seven alex' adventure nh tower de?

A T N H D E
is spell "and the"
and also it  called
future helper and the seven tower
i just put alex adventure in the middle.
and it a logo with a puzzle lolz...
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: AbsoluteIce on April 30, 2012, 07:24:10 AM
concept art time:
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Frpgmaker.net%2Fmedia%2Fcontent%2Fgames%2F3926%2Fscreenshots%2Fcnecept_are_future_helper_and_the_seven_tower.jpg&hash=e7899891ab3dd4562da4fccecf40b721da297cfd)

this is one of the old logo of the future helper and the seven tower using just a pencil and grade A colored pencil
Wat.
Just.. Wat.  :o
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Rief on April 30, 2012, 07:24:29 AM
A logo with a puzzle? Now that won't work Oo
If i see a Logo, i wanna see a logo, i don't wanna think about how to spell the title on the logo Oo

Also, don't be so proud of yourself, you are not as good as you think you are. I won't say that the logo is shit, but seriously, it cannot be called good, not even okay, it just fails.
And that can also be said about your game. It could be a good game if you would make it properly, but thats all you will accomplish, a somewhat good game, nothing more, no big hit, no "weapon against sopa".
Seriously, no one that has to do with sopa and such will ever hear about your game, and even if they did, they won't care.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on April 30, 2012, 07:31:14 AM
A logo with a puzzle? Now that won't work Oo
If i see a Logo, i wanna see a logo, i don't wanna think about how to spell the title on the logo Oo

Also, don't be so proud of yourself, you are not as good as you think you are. I won't say that the logo is shit, but seriously, it cannot be called good, not even okay, it just fails.
And that can also be said about your game. It could be a good game if you would make it properly, but thats all you will accomplish, a somewhat good game, nothing more, no big hit, no "weapon against sopa".
Seriously, no one that has to do with sopa and such will ever hear about your game, and even if they did, they won't care.

just you wait now i already fix everything on that game... do you want me to put you to beta to prove it to ya.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Rief on April 30, 2012, 07:42:48 AM
Heh, nice try, i won't fall for that.
To fix every error in your Game you would need months.
But well, show us some screenshots, show us your mapping and texts.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: D&P3 on April 30, 2012, 08:15:50 AM
Now for a nice suggestion for your story Jomarcenter (because the more you reveal, the less I like your game [It just sounds really bad to me])

Make your towers in a time-travelling loop, they've already got an time travelling orb inside them (or at least that's how I read it), so make them travel through time at random intervals so that you can only access one tower whenever it returns to your timezone and only give a certain amount of time to be able to enter it and continue the main story quest.

Since your game allows players to do other quests besides the main ones, this would work with your game and it gives a nice middle finger to the player if they didn't decide to do the main story quest when it was available because they have to wait for it to return.
So we're just going to ignore this then?
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on April 30, 2012, 09:02:59 AM
Heh, nice try, i won't fall for that.
To fix every error in your Game you would need months.
But well, show us some screenshots, show us your mapping and texts.
here proof
http://rpgmaker.net/games/3926/images/
check out on the released image.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: D&P3 on April 30, 2012, 09:09:08 AM
This just made my day.

(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg4host.net%2Fupload%2F301108464f9e569e2b698.JPG&hash=7222dbf4c8a51a6fe41f57e19482892c557d3838)
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on April 30, 2012, 09:25:41 AM
rmrk.com special beta testing is now open.
i need beta tester to test the newest feature and also some biggest changes in the game
now here is the fix.
1. game story-line is now understandable
2. English is now freaking fix
3. now with added intro (before and after main menu)
4. bugs fix.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: mobychan on April 30, 2012, 10:11:13 AM
@DP3: I guess I'm not allowed to view your images Oo
when I use my boyfriend PC it works fine XD
strange thing...

But, somehow he is right, isn't he (or is it a she?)
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: D&P3 on April 30, 2012, 10:37:01 AM
I use img4host.net (http://img4host.net) to upload images like that.
Believe it or not it is hosted in Germany, so I don't know why you'd get any restriction to it.


Now for a nice suggestion for your story Jomarcenter (because the more you reveal, the less I like your game [It just sounds really bad to me])

Make your towers in a time-travelling loop, they've already got an time travelling orb inside them (or at least that's how I read it), so make them travel through time at random intervals so that you can only access one tower whenever it returns to your timezone and only give a certain amount of time to be able to enter it and continue the main story quest.

Since your game allows players to do other quests besides the main ones, this would work with your game and it gives a nice middle finger to the player if they didn't decide to do the main story quest when it was available because they have to wait for it to return.
So we're just going to ignore this then?
Jomar are you going to use this or are you going to continue to ignore me?
In which case I'm going to give that idea to a friend.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on April 30, 2012, 10:45:13 AM
I use img4host.net (http://img4host.net) to upload images like that.
Believe it or not it is hosted in Germany, so I don't know why you'd get any restriction to it.


Now for a nice suggestion for your story Jomarcenter (because the more you reveal, the less I like your game [It just sounds really bad to me])

Make your towers in a time-travelling loop, they've already got an time travelling orb inside them (or at least that's how I read it), so make them travel through time at random intervals so that you can only access one tower whenever it returns to your timezone and only give a certain amount of time to be able to enter it and continue the main story quest.

Since your game allows players to do other quests besides the main ones, this would work with your game and it gives a nice middle finger to the player if they didn't decide to do the main story quest when it was available because they have to wait for it to return.
So we're just going to ignore this then?
Jomar are you going to use this or are you going to continue to ignore me?
In which case I'm going to give that idea to a friend.
do you want me spill out some spoiler or not...
edit: you don't even know the freaking whole story-line is yet...
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: mobychan on April 30, 2012, 10:50:48 AM
@DP3:
Just give it to your friend, I guess this meens he doesn't need your "little" idea and has some much greater stuff for us XD
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: D&P3 on April 30, 2012, 10:51:35 AM
Jomar -

I honestly don't care.

I gave you an idea for your game, it is not a spoiler in any regard. The spoilers you HAVE shown aren't spoilers either.

I just want to know if you are going to use the idea that I gave you, I don't want credit, I don't even care if you use it.
But if you don't, then I've got someone who I actually like that I would like to give that idea to (since they're doing a similar style game to yours (Only with a good bloody story behind it)).
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Tezuka on April 30, 2012, 11:15:04 AM
You gave him a good idea and I re-wrote it entirely. He ignored both of them.

No hope.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: AbsoluteIce on April 30, 2012, 11:29:35 AM
You gave him a good idea and I re-wrote it entirely. He ignored both of them.

No hope.
Hmm..
I really wonder what'll happen to this 'Future Helpers' project.  ???
Will it be a success, or will it be the worst game of the year?
...Nobody knows.

Spoiler for:
Most probably it'll be the worst game of the year/lifetime of the RPG Maker series.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on April 30, 2012, 11:32:28 AM
Jomar -

I honestly don't care.

I gave you an idea for your game, it is not a spoiler in any regard. The spoilers you HAVE shown aren't spoilers either.

I just want to know if you are going to use the idea that I gave you, I don't want credit, I don't even care if you use it.
But if you don't, then I've got someone who I actually like that I would like to give that idea to (since they're doing a similar style game to yours (Only with a good bloody story behind it)).
i already got a plot for the next future helper game... i maybe add your idea if possible.
ok! because the seven tower series already had a time travel idea in it... but it will be use only a few part of the plot.
i also re-read the whole seven tower plot and some of my friend cried a little to the story.

edit: oh yeah starting may 1 i will work on another future helper game set in year 3XXX... and it filled with friction war...
but it won't effect on this game.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: AbsoluteIce on April 30, 2012, 11:55:32 AM
Jomar -

I honestly don't care.

I gave you an idea for your game, it is not a spoiler in any regard. The spoilers you HAVE shown aren't spoilers either.

I just want to know if you are going to use the idea that I gave you, I don't want credit, I don't even care if you use it.
But if you don't, then I've got someone who I actually like that I would like to give that idea to (since they're doing a similar style game to yours (Only with a good bloody story behind it)).
i already got a plot for the next future helper game... i maybe add your idea if possible.
ok! because the seven tower series already had a time travel idea in it... but it will be use only a few part of the plot.
i also re-read the whole seven tower plot and some of my friend cried a little to the story.

edit: oh yeah starting may 1 i will work on another future helper game set in year 3XXX... and it filled with friction war...
but it won't effect on this game.
Dude, before you start thinking of another project..
Why not refirbush and finish this one first and make it as nicely looking as possible?  ???

Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: D&P3 on April 30, 2012, 11:56:50 AM
What about Lifeless (http://rmrk.net/index.php/topic,45762.msg519251.html)?
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: AbsoluteIce on April 30, 2012, 12:01:58 PM
What about Lifeless (http://rmrk.net/index.php/topic,45762.msg519251.html)?
BRUGHRHUHVUFVFJVNJVNFVM.
He has so many projects that my head is about to EXPLODE!
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on April 30, 2012, 12:02:49 PM
What about Lifeless (http://rmrk.net/index.php/topic,45762.msg519251.html)?
i also going to work on that too... (muti-tasking)
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: D&P3 on April 30, 2012, 12:03:07 PM
What about Lifeless (http://rmrk.net/index.php/topic,45762.msg519251.html)?
BRUGHRHUHVUFVFJVNJVNFVM.
He has so many projects that my head is about to EXPLODE!
:zrage:
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: AbsoluteIce on April 30, 2012, 12:05:32 PM
What about Lifeless (http://rmrk.net/index.php/topic,45762.msg519251.html)?
i also going to work on that too... (muti-tasking)
Seriously dude.
If you really do make that fictional war project..
You'll have 3 projects that you have to 'Multi-Task'.
Seriously, dude, I suggest you focus on ONE GAME AT A TIME.
Hell, look at me. I couldn't even finish my old project. Lol.  :V
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Esmeralda on April 30, 2012, 12:29:13 PM
Sign me up for beta tester :)
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on April 30, 2012, 12:33:30 PM
Sign me up for beta tester :)
your now being register. i will pm you the files.

Quote
Seriously dude.
If you really do make that fictional war project..
You'll have 3 projects that you have to 'Multi-Task'.
Seriously, dude, I suggest you focus on ONE GAME AT A TIME.
Hell, look at me. I couldn't even finish my old project. Lol.
no there is 4 project i have to deal with, and it a community project too...
project link: http://www.pastelforum.com/topic.php?id=3680 (to admin or moderator if this link is not allow in the rules just remove it, since i just helping the other developer out)
were making a flash escape game... and it also look like they need help as well...
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: skaraflame on April 30, 2012, 12:55:07 PM
I've watched on the sidelines enough. It's time for me to get mad. When I get mad on the internet, I'm like the Hulk + Stephen Fry.

1. Jomarcenter, you don't even have a friggin game yet, things can be changed around to support D&P3's frankly amazing idea.

2. LISTEN TO OUR IDEAS. When we suggest something, it's to make your terrible garbage better.

3. Work on one title. This "game" is horrible enough as it is, if you start working on other things, it'll somehow make it much worse.

4. That is not concept art, that is pure pure crap. You shouldn't be impressed, you should be embarrassed and take some art lessons or some shit.

5. I gather this project isn't a joke, which seriously worries me. There is someone in the world who can genuinely make something this horrible AND take it seriously. Do NOT develop this into a series. Wait about 3-4 years then make a one-off game. When I was 13 I wanted to turn my terrible game "Masamune" into a series and developed the first two games in the series at once. The idea of the second one WAS better, but I stopped to practice. Now I'm developing one standalone game.

DO NOT IGNORE THIS POST. READ IT, LISTEN TO IT, TAKE IT INTO CONSIDERATION.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on April 30, 2012, 12:59:15 PM
I've watched on the sidelines enough. It's time for me to get mad. When I get mad on the internet, I'm like the Hulk + Stephen Fry.

1. Jomarcenter, you don't even have a friggin game yet, things can be changed around to support D&P3's frankly amazing idea.

2. LISTEN TO OUR IDEAS. When we suggest something, it's to make your terrible garbage better.

3. Work on one title. This "game" is horrible enough as it is, if you start working on other things, it'll somehow make it much worse.

4. That is not concept art, that is pure pure crap. You shouldn't be impressed, you should be embarrassed and take some art lessons or some shit.

5. I gather this project isn't a joke, which seriously worries me. There is someone in the world who can genuinely make something this horrible AND take it seriously. Do NOT develop this into a series. Wait about 3-4 years then make a one-off game. When I was 13 I wanted to turn my terrible game "Masamune" into a series and developed the first two games in the series at once. The idea of the second one WAS better, but I stopped to practice. Now I'm developing one standalone game.

DO NOT IGNORE THIS POST. READ IT, LISTEN TO IT, TAKE IT INTO CONSIDERATION.
just you wait for the game to be freaking released you don't even know what is happening here...
wait for a while until the version 0.3 released and then you can talk like that...
i taken every post seriously and also secretlyput it into a game if i want to...
and other project are being pending... not yet been working on...
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Esmeralda on April 30, 2012, 01:11:41 PM
It's his game, not yours. Let him roam free :gracie:
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: skaraflame on April 30, 2012, 01:15:43 PM
I've watched on the sidelines enough. It's time for me to get mad. When I get mad on the internet, I'm like the Hulk + Stephen Fry.

1. Jomarcenter, you don't even have a friggin game yet, things can be changed around to support D&P3's frankly amazing idea.

2. LISTEN TO OUR IDEAS. When we suggest something, it's to make your terrible garbage better.

3. Work on one title. This "game" is horrible enough as it is, if you start working on other things, it'll somehow make it much worse.

4. That is not concept art, that is pure pure crap. You shouldn't be impressed, you should be embarrassed and take some art lessons or some shit.

5. I gather this project isn't a joke, which seriously worries me. There is someone in the world who can genuinely make something this horrible AND take it seriously. Do NOT develop this into a series. Wait about 3-4 years then make a one-off game. When I was 13 I wanted to turn my terrible game "Masamune" into a series and developed the first two games in the series at once. The idea of the second one WAS better, but I stopped to practice. Now I'm developing one standalone game.

DO NOT IGNORE THIS POST. READ IT, LISTEN TO IT, TAKE IT INTO CONSIDERATION.
just you wait for the game to be freaking released you don't even know what is happening here...
wait for a while until the version 0.3 released and then you can talk like that...
i taken every post seriously and also secretlyput it into a game if i want to...
and other project are being pending... not yet been working on...
I imagine 0.3 will be amazing. It HAS taken you nearly two weeks to do -_-
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Mushu on April 30, 2012, 02:45:42 PM
   I think jomar is missing a sense of self-polishing. A great thing to help you in your game is to play games in similar format(gameboy games and other rpg maker games) and see what qualities you should take out of them. It always seems like a good idea at first to rush ahead because you might forget to add something or because you want to prove that you can make an entire game quickly, but it totally kills it. If you get ideas, write them down. If your on a map and it doesn't look right(or there's not much in it), make it smaller or spend a lot more time on it. Quite frankly though, you don't listen to people, so all the advice in the world won't help you.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Lethrface on April 30, 2012, 04:29:34 PM
This kid needs one of his parents to monitor his activities on the computer because his posts are getting to be ridiculous now.  I'm all for the "ignore him and let him fade into the darkness of obscurity" approach because seeing each of his posts have pissed me off, especially seeing this ungrateful post:

just you wait for the game to be freaking released you don't even know what is happening here...
wait for a while until the version 0.3 released and then you can talk like that...
i taken every post seriously and also secretlyput it into a game if i want to...
and other project are being pending... not yet been working on...

Look, you spoiled little brat.  If you are going to use any other people's ideas, the proper thing to do is to answer them and also THANK them, not ignore them and "secretly" put their ideas to use.  If you don't want everyone to know, you could simply PM them using the forum's private message system.  I also read your post about how "every big is fix" and your english is "fix" but frankly, this is impossible unless you got someone else to do all of your dialog because your English is still terrible.  For regular conversation, this wouldn't be such a big problem but you are making a GAME and it is a game that you are putting out there for everyone to see.  Everyone learns second languages by speaking it and writing it but your English leaves something to be desired so writing it off as "freaking fix" is a failure just like your game will be if you don't start treating people with a little more respect. 

If you were my child, I would have whooped your ass and grounded you from the computer by now with how you treat some of the people who are actually trying to give you constructive criticism like D&P3...

Do you want people to not make fun of your game?  Cancel the piece of shit or don't release it until it is actually good...
Do you want people to not make fun of you?  Deal with it because people are assholes and there is always one troll...
Do you want people to show you respect?  Learn to show some respect yourself, boy.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: AbsoluteIce on April 30, 2012, 04:40:03 PM
This kid needs one of his parents to monitor his activities on the computer because his posts are getting to be ridiculous now.  I'm all for the "ignore him and let him fade into the darkness of obscurity" approach because seeing each of his posts have pissed me off, especially seeing this ungrateful post:

just you wait for the game to be freaking released you don't even know what is happening here...
wait for a while until the version 0.3 released and then you can talk like that...
i taken every post seriously and also secretlyput it into a game if i want to...
and other project are being pending... not yet been working on...

Look, you spoiled little brat.  If you are going to use any other people's ideas, the proper thing to do is to answer them and also THANK them, not ignore them and "secretly" put their ideas to use.  If you don't want everyone to know, you could simply PM them using the forum's private message system.  I also read your post about how "every big is fix" and your english is "fix" but frankly, this is impossible unless you got someone else to do all of your dialog because your English is still terrible.  For regular conversation, this wouldn't be such a big problem but you are making a GAME and it is a game that you are putting out there for everyone to see.  Everyone learns second languages by speaking it and writing it but your English leaves something to be desired so writing it off as "freaking fix" is a failure just like your game will be if you don't start treating people with a little more respect. 

If you were my child, I would have whooped your ass and grounded you from the computer by now with how you treat some of the people who are actually trying to give you constructive criticism like D&P3...

Do you want people to not make fun of your game?  Cancel the piece of shit or don't release it until it is actually good...
Do you want people to not make fun of you?  Deal with it because people are assholes and there is always one troll...
Do you want people to show you respect?  Learn to show some respect yourself, boy.
:rdetermined: supporting this statement all the way.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Lethrface on April 30, 2012, 04:53:12 PM
:rdetermined: supporting this statement all the way.

 :rfuckyeah:
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Esmeralda on April 30, 2012, 05:05:57 PM
 ::)
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: firerain on April 30, 2012, 05:42:04 PM
can we like

ignore this
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Acolyte on April 30, 2012, 06:07:44 PM
Now for a nice suggestion for your story Jomarcenter (because the more you reveal, the less I like your game [It just sounds really bad to me])

Make your towers in a time-travelling loop, they've already got an time travelling orb inside them (or at least that's how I read it), so make them travel through time at random intervals so that you can only access one tower whenever it returns to your timezone and only give a certain amount of time to be able to enter it and continue the main story quest.

Since your game allows players to do other quests besides the main ones, this would work with your game and it gives a nice middle finger to the player if they didn't decide to do the main story quest when it was available because they have to wait for it to return.
So we're just going to ignore this then?

Just throwing it out there, I don't see what everyone thinks is so great about this idea. It's not even a storyline. It's a gameplay element, and a fairly bad one at that. You should never give "the middle finger" to the player for wanting to do sidequests.

And while I agree that Jomar really needs to improve his story, he's not exactly obligated to take every joe-shmoe's story piece.
 
I agree with firerain. I'm sick of seeing this in my unread posts, and it's always the same handful of people repeating the same thing with the same answers given. If his game is bad, don't play it. If he doesn't take your advice, don't waste your time. This whole trying to hammer it into his head no matter how long it takes thing is really stupid. Honestly, don't you people have better things to do? There are plenty of other horrible games out there you can make fun of. This isn't even the worst one I've seen.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Countdown on April 30, 2012, 06:38:09 PM
Quote
It always seems like a good idea at first to rush ahead because you might forget to add something or because you want to prove that you can make an entire game quickly, but it totally kills it.

That statement may not be entirely true. While I mostly agree with it, I have friends who have rushed through a game to get the main story done. I played their beta's and they were kinda cruddy, but while I was beta testing the main storyline, my friends went through and polished it, added sidequests, improved mapping and made it just an all-around better game. That's my argument for that statement.

Maybe Jormacenter is doing that (I highly doubt it).

Anyway, there's always the exception to the rule.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Rief on April 30, 2012, 06:42:54 PM
You gave him a good idea and I re-wrote it entirely. He ignored both of them.

No hope.


Hmm..
I really wonder what'll happen to this 'Future Helpers' project.  ???
Will it be a success, or will it be the worst game of the year?
...Nobody knows.

Spoiler for:
Most probably it'll be the worst game of the year/lifetime of the RPG Maker series.
Well, making the worst game ever is also some kind of success...
Jomar -

I honestly don't care.

I gave you an idea for your game, it is not a spoiler in any regard. The spoilers you HAVE shown aren't spoilers either.

I just want to know if you are going to use the idea that I gave you, I don't want credit, I don't even care if you use it.
But if you don't, then I've got someone who I actually like that I would like to give that idea to (since they're doing a similar style game to yours (Only with a good bloody story behind it)).
i already got a plot for the next future helper game... i maybe add your idea if possible.
ok! because the seven tower series already had a time travel idea in it... but it will be use only a few part of the plot.
i also re-read the whole seven tower plot and some of my friend cried a little to the story.

edit: oh yeah starting may 1 i will work on another future helper game set in year 3XXX... and it filled with friction war...
but it won't effect on this game.

Oh, i believe you that he cried, i would too, but i think you got the reason why he cried wrong...
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: D&P3 on April 30, 2012, 06:45:25 PM
Now for a nice suggestion for your story Jomarcenter (because the more you reveal, the less I like your game [It just sounds really bad to me])

Make your towers in a time-travelling loop, they've already got an time travelling orb inside them (or at least that's how I read it), so make them travel through time at random intervals so that you can only access one tower whenever it returns to your timezone and only give a certain amount of time to be able to enter it and continue the main story quest.

Since your game allows players to do other quests besides the main ones, this would work with your game and it gives a nice middle finger to the player if they didn't decide to do the main story quest when it was available because they have to wait for it to return.
So we're just going to ignore this then?

Just throwing it out there, I don't see what everyone thinks is so great about this idea. It's not even a storyline. It's a gameplay element, and a fairly bad one at that. You should never give "the middle finger" to the player for wanting to do sidequests.

And while I agree that Jomar really needs to improve his story, he's not exactly obligated to take every joe-shmoe's story piece.
 
I agree with firerain. I'm sick of seeing this in my unread posts, and it's always the same handful of people repeating the same thing with the same answers given. If his game is bad, don't play it. If he doesn't take your advice, don't waste your time. This whole trying to hammer it into his head no matter how long it takes thing is really stupid. Honestly, don't you people have better things to do? There are plenty of other horrible games out there you can make fun of. This isn't even the worst one I've seen.
In any case, I think that it's a nice idea; It's intended to show a further effect of a storyline element which states that there are time crystals in the towers, and the idea behind a time-loop (like I suggested) would be to emphasize the amount of how disoriented they have become.
So it was actually a gameplay and story element.

But be that as it may, I never forced it on him nor told him his story would suck without it (although it may or may not be better without it). I simply suggested it and then asked if he was going to use it (not caring whether he would or not).
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Lethrface on April 30, 2012, 07:06:34 PM
I agree that we should probably just ignore this but there is one thing you posted that I disagree with.

And while I agree that Jomar really needs to improve his story, he's not exactly obligated to take every joe-shmoe's story piece.

I think you are missing the point, really.  Nobody is saying that he needs to take the ideas.  Everyone is posting suggestions and the big thing that people are getting annoyed with is that people who are actually giving constructive criticism are getting ignored and not even a "thanks" or "no thanks" and when he does give a reply, it sounds ungrateful. 

But yeah, I will just quote myself here so I don't have to re-type it.

I'm all for the "ignore him and let him fade into the darkness of obscurity" approach because seeing each of his posts have pissed me off
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: skaraflame on April 30, 2012, 08:31:17 PM
Spoiler for:
This kid needs one of his parents to monitor his activities on the computer because his posts are getting to be ridiculous now.  I'm all for the "ignore him and let him fade into the darkness of obscurity" approach because seeing each of his posts have pissed me off, especially seeing this ungrateful post:

just you wait for the game to be freaking released you don't even know what is happening here...
wait for a while until the version 0.3 released and then you can talk like that...
i taken every post seriously and also secretlyput it into a game if i want to...
and other project are being pending... not yet been working on...

Look, you spoiled little brat.  If you are going to use any other people's ideas, the proper thing to do is to answer them and also THANK them, not ignore them and "secretly" put their ideas to use.  If you don't want everyone to know, you could simply PM them using the forum's private message system.  I also read your post about how "every big is fix" and your english is "fix" but frankly, this is impossible unless you got someone else to do all of your dialog because your English is still terrible.  For regular conversation, this wouldn't be such a big problem but you are making a GAME and it is a game that you are putting out there for everyone to see.  Everyone learns second languages by speaking it and writing it but your English leaves something to be desired so writing it off as "freaking fix" is a failure just like your game will be if you don't start treating people with a little more respect. 

If you were my child, I would have whooped your ass and grounded you from the computer by now with how you treat some of the people who are actually trying to give you constructive criticism like D&P3...

Do you want people to not make fun of your game?  Cancel the piece of shit or don't release it until it is actually good...
Do you want people to not make fun of you?  Deal with it because people are assholes and there is always one troll...
Spoiler for:
You gave him a good idea and I re-wrote it entirely. He ignored both of them.

No hope.


Hmm..
I really wonder what'll happen to this 'Future Helpers' project.  ???
Will it be a success, or will it be the worst game of the year?
...Nobody knows.

Spoiler for:
Most probably it'll be the worst game of the year/lifetime of the RPG Maker series.
Well, making the worst game ever is also some kind of success...
Jomar -

I honestly don't care.

I gave you an idea for your game, it is not a spoiler in any regard. The spoilers you HAVE shown aren't spoilers either.

I just want to know if you are going to use the idea that I gave you, I don't want credit, I don't even care if you use it.
But if you don't, then I've got someone who I actually like that I would like to give that idea to (since they're doing a similar style game to yours (Only with a good bloody story behind it)).
i already got a plot for the next future helper game... i maybe add your idea if possible.
ok! because the seven tower series already had a time travel idea in it... but it will be use only a few part of the plot.
i also re-read the whole seven tower plot and some of my friend cried a little to the story.

edit: oh yeah starting may 1 i will work on another future helper game set in year 3XXX... and it filled with friction war...
but it won't effect on this game.

Oh, i believe you that he cried, i would too, but i think you got the reason why he cried wrong...
[/quote]
Do you want people to show you respect?  Learn to show some respect yourself, boy.
[/quote]

Ok, amen to both these quotes. I believe I have nothing more to say except for, Jomar at least listen to people and stop being so immature.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: firerain on April 30, 2012, 10:43:50 PM
everyone shut up and let this die
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on May 01, 2012, 02:46:28 AM
it not my fault why i'm like this, is all of you cause this rage war...
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Rief on May 01, 2012, 06:06:27 AM
So it's our fault that you are stupid like hell?
It's our fault that you ignore our ideas?
It's our fault that you cannot say thanks if someone is willing to help you(which almost everyone did at some point)?
It's our fault that you won't even try to learn english?
It's our fault that you live in a world with a pink sky where you are the king that creates one hell of a game?
It's our fault that you have no mapping-skills?
It's our fault that the story YOU wrote does'nt make much sense?

I could go on and on, but my cat just took a shit, and that is much more interesting than you and your stupid "game"(It hurts to call it a game).
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on May 01, 2012, 07:31:25 AM
So it's our fault that you are stupid like hell?
It's our fault that you ignore our ideas?
It's our fault that you cannot say thanks if someone is willing to help you(which almost everyone did at some point)?
It's our fault that you won't even try to learn english?
It's our fault that you live in a world with a pink sky where you are the king that creates one hell of a game?
It's our fault that you have no mapping-skills?
It's our fault that the story YOU wrote does'nt make much sense?

I could go on and on, but my cat just took a shit, and that is much more interesting than you and your stupid "game"(It hurts to call it a game).
i'm doing best as i can and all of the sudden all of you started flame war about the story-line which i'm trying to fix...
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Rief on May 01, 2012, 07:42:49 AM
If that is the best you can do, stop doing it.
Seriously, there is absolutely no improvement.
And you are so damn impudent towards us.

Polish your story, polish your characters, polish your personality, polish your english and THEN come back.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: firerain on May 01, 2012, 07:49:51 AM
rief shut up and stop posting in here jesus
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: modern algebra on May 01, 2012, 08:19:41 AM
I'm going to lock this topic for a couple days.

While I would normally characterize most of the posts in this topic as constructive, the non-responsiveness of the recipient tends to drain whatever constructive elements there might be from the posts. Criticism is only constructive if the recipient possesses the requisite maturity to respond positively to it, and I think it is or ought to be clear to everyone that jomarcenter is very young and does not yet possess that maturity. It is incredibly difficult to see why people keep posting here and I am inclined to think that the sustained criticism is not motivated by the purest of intentions.

I am sure that jomarcenter is doing whatever he can to improve his game, so just let jomarcenter make his game in peace; you don't have to like it, you don't have to play it, and I'd prefer that you stop paying attention to it if the primary attribute which attracts you to the project is how bad you perceive it to be. You would not upbraid a child for not colouring within the lines; I ask that you extend the same courtesy to jomarcenter for whatever failures you may perceive in his game.

Please don't take from this post or action any desire to curtail constructive criticism. I appreciate that you all are willing to take time out of your day to try and help other members improve. However, that is not what is happening in this thread, and I ask that you please direct your attention and your charity to members who will benefit from both.

That is why I am temporarily locking this topic until everyone gets it out of their system. If you feel this action is unfair or unwarranted, then you may PM me or any other moderator to talk about it. Once it is unlocked, I expect that only those who have a genuine interest in the game and respect for the maturity level of its creator will continue to post.


@jomarcenter - This moderation is not directed against you and you have done nothing wrong. I am sorry for the lock, but it is only temporary. I will unlock it in a day or two once everything has calmed down and you will be able to continue to post updates in this thread. I look forward to seeing what you come up with. If I forget to unlock it, please PM me.


EDIT::

Alright, I've now unlocked it again.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on May 05, 2012, 10:12:44 AM
announcement:
since i'm joining the 64 digit competition
i can announced the new future helper series game called
Future helper: science & magic: family reunion war
but it won't affect the current production of future helper and the seven tower
and also i already read the rules and found a loop holes so i can released any update and give to beta tester if i want to...
also the beta tester of the seven tower series also a beta tester for the science and magic series...
so updates for both game will be done here also and 64 digit websites...
so to other people here want to join the competition with me just ask me... (you have 20 of may to ask me)

here is some of the possible feature of the fh: science & magic family reunion war...
-new main character (alex temporary removed)
-same locations (except new cities never seen in the seven tower event)
-time line: 3XXX-4XXX
-and also since the family reunion war series of the game i may separate by part...
-very long story
-drama, romance, comedy, love, etc...
-and many more

and also here is some updates for future helper and the seven towers
-the game is now ready to released in a few days.

thank you
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: mobychan on May 05, 2012, 10:46:39 AM
I'd not rely on loop holes in the rules.
Last time you were disqualified because you thought it wouldn't be found Oo


-same locations (except new cities never seen in the seven tower event)
I'd recommend not using the same maps for these locations (I don't know if you wanted to), because it's many years after the events with alex and locations change, keep some important points, and maybe the "style" of the roads but otherwise i'd change much, because of the amount of years that passed


-time line: 3XXX-4XXX
So there are multiple maincharacters?
I mean it's quite a big range (given the possiblility that it could be 3000-4999)
if it's only one maincharacter traveling through time in that range, I'd not call it "time line". it's not a time line anyway, a time line is something like this:
Spoiler for timeline Image:
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rootz.de%2Fwp-content%2Fgallery%2Fallgemein%2Ftimeline_webframeworks.jpg&hash=179f5648d349ef5ce0717d26b3861d3a1d29932a)

What you mean, I think, is the time range


-and also since the family reunion war series of the game i may separate by part...
What do you mean by this?


-very long story
You should not only focus on making a "long" story, but also make sure it's fun, understandable, the surroundings match.
did you think about who could help you with your english/grammar?
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on May 05, 2012, 11:00:56 AM
I'd not rely on loop holes in the rules.
Last time you were disqualified because you thought it wouldn't be found Oo


-same locations (except new cities never seen in the seven tower event)
I'd recommend not using the same maps for these locations (I don't know if you wanted to), because it's many years after the events with alex and locations change, keep some important points, and maybe the "style" of the roads but otherwise i'd change much, because of the amount of years that passed


-time line: 3XXX-4XXX
So there are multiple maincharacters?
I mean it's quite a big range (given the possiblility that it could be 3000-4999)
if it's only one maincharacter traveling through time in that range, I'd not call it "time line". it's not a time line anyway, a time line is something like this:
Spoiler for timeline Image:
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rootz.de%2Fwp-content%2Fgallery%2Fallgemein%2Ftimeline_webframeworks.jpg&hash=179f5648d349ef5ce0717d26b3861d3a1d29932a)

What you mean, I think, is the time range


-and also since the family reunion war series of the game i may separate by part...
What do you mean by this?


-very long story
You should not only focus on making a "long" story, but also make sure it's fun, understandable, the surroundings match.
did you think about who could help you with your english/grammar?
question and answer
Q:So there are multiple maincharacters?
A:no at a certain point of time someone found the fountain of youth (which it will reviled in the other future helper games)
Q:You should not only focus on making a "long" story, but also make sure it's fun, understandable, the surroundings match.
yes it will be fun, understandable, and a ton of dramatic cut-scenes...
Q:did you think about who could help you with your english/grammar?
A: well someone already going to help me with that problem...
Q:What do you mean by this?
A:well that family reunion war (a.k.a. science vs magic...) no one will win or lose except when something good had happen...


Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: mobychan on May 05, 2012, 11:09:56 AM
I'd not rely on loop holes in the rules.
Last time you were disqualified because you thought it wouldn't be found Oo


-same locations (except new cities never seen in the seven tower event)
I'd recommend not using the same maps for these locations (I don't know if you wanted to), because it's many years after the events with alex and locations change, keep some important points, and maybe the "style" of the roads but otherwise i'd change much, because of the amount of years that passed

What's with these?

And you still didn't explain the "parts" stuff.
Will there be different games featuring different Maincharacters?
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on May 05, 2012, 11:14:39 AM
I'd not rely on loop holes in the rules.
Last time you were disqualified because you thought it wouldn't be found Oo


-same locations (except new cities never seen in the seven tower event)
I'd recommend not using the same maps for these locations (I don't know if you wanted to), because it's many years after the events with alex and locations change, keep some important points, and maybe the "style" of the roads but otherwise i'd change much, because of the amount of years that passed

What's with these?

And you still didn't explain the "parts" stuff.
Will there be different games featuring different Maincharacters?
because of very long story i have to separate the game like book 1, book 2,book 3, etc...(just like legend of heroes, since their story is very long they have to separate by chapter)
and still no one is making a script that can also transfer save data from one game to another...
and the same location part use same city name with huge improvement since year 192(central city is still up since year 192)
but i will use different maps but same name of the cities with new location...


I'd not rely on loop holes in the rules.
Last time you were disqualified because you thought it wouldn't be found Oo

and the loop hole part
they didn't say if we can or cannot show our project to the public....
and do some beta testing and stuff so it safe...
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on May 06, 2012, 05:34:49 AM
Updates
Here is the logo for the new game
Spoiler for may contain bright colors:
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.wikia.com%2Fjomarcenter-future-helper%2Fimages%2Fa%2Fab%2FFuture_helper_science_and_magic_logo.png&hash=1770dd3998becc1d45081fcdc85976374b07ccd5)
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Mushu on May 06, 2012, 06:01:13 AM
I randomly 'burned' it in gimp. Makes it look like it would be a logo from Fallout or something. lol

(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FVZ5ef.png&hash=d75c525a43bced36e61505ca1173712e0a1dfd56)
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: mobychan on May 06, 2012, 06:49:43 AM
I must say the colors aren't very nice to look at, and I can only see something Science related, or do you see the bolt/lightning stuff in the background as "magic"?
I'd also recommend stylizing the flask or make it look more like a real one.
this one for example:
Spoiler for flask:
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.omikron-online.de%2Fcyberchem%2Fpreise%2Flabor%2Fgif%2Ferlenmey.gif&hash=43126a66bbeb000db404e3fc5a808859573a2650)
The one in your logo looks strange, give it some round edges or something, that would already help.
And think about a nice place to put the title and vary the colors like Mushu showed. (don't just take his version, try to make it yourself! It's a good excercise!)
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Illumination™ on May 06, 2012, 09:34:53 AM
Stop using paint and get a real program.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: mobychan on May 06, 2012, 09:37:51 AM
He actually said in another thread, that he uses Paint.net and has gimp already installed.
since he wasn't able to find a "tutorial" on how to combine images I think someone has to provide him with a "tutorial" for this as well...
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on May 06, 2012, 09:55:31 AM
He actually said in another thread, that he uses Paint.net and has gimp already installed.
since he wasn't able to find a "tutorial" on how to combine images I think someone has to provide him with a "tutorial" for this as well...
since gimp isn't complete like some other program... there is no curve tool or other necessary shape tools...
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: mobychan on May 06, 2012, 10:08:18 AM
I already told you to search yourself! (http://www.farcrydesign.com/tutorials/GIMP_tutorial.html)
It's possible, you see?
Don't be lazy and use GOOGLE (http://www.google.de)
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Rief on May 06, 2012, 10:08:54 AM
but paint is complete?
wow, now my whole body hurts from laughing XD

You can make very good graphics with gimp, if you can, that is. If you can't, DON'T DO IT!
seriusly, search for someone who will make you this logos.
And every image editing program is better than paint.

And please tell us what this logo is about, it doesn't make any sense. Is that really a flask?
what are these strange lines everywhere?
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on May 06, 2012, 10:15:08 AM
but paint is complete?
wow, now my whole body hurts from laughing XD

You can make very good graphics with gimp, if you can, that is. If you can't, DON'T DO IT!
seriusly, search for someone who will make you this logos.
And every image editing program is better than paint.

And please tell us what this logo is about, it doesn't make any sense. Is that really a flask?
what are these strange lines everywhere?
well the logo should be look like combined science & magic (which is why the game called science & magic family reunion war...)
and also i try to combine using both program paint.net and gimp and now the logo is now look like it getting a good effect.
and i check the tutorial and i got facepalm.. because i didn't know it could do that lolz...
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: mobychan on May 06, 2012, 10:20:05 AM
Try google before you say GIMP doesn't have these features!
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Rief on May 06, 2012, 10:22:44 AM
No, the logo looks like shit and has absolutly no effect besides making everyone want to puke at you^^

And where can i see magic? honestly, i can see nothing that looks magical in there...
oh...
wait...
haha, i am so stupid, of course there is magic^^
something this bad cannot be done without magic Oo

here an advise:
do you have elements in your game? make symbols for them and put these into the logo for the magic part.
and for the science part, well, it's hard to depict, but i think a flask(one that actually looks like one) is not a bad idea, it just looks inferior to magic, which it should'nt.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on May 06, 2012, 10:25:19 AM
done i now made the new logo
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages2.wikia.nocookie.net%2Fjomarcenter-future-helper%2Fimages%2Fthumb%2F5%2F51%2FScience_%2526_magic_logo_2.png%2F616px-Science_%2526_magic_logo_2.png&hash=ed4f9c2125d2c58d8190ca9c356c6c5a47fa8eab)
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: D&P3 on May 06, 2012, 10:29:16 AM
Bottom Half looks Cybernetic
Upper Half looks like UV Rays ???
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: mobychan on May 06, 2012, 10:30:39 AM
It's definitly better than before.
The "flask neck" should be shorter, it's kinda out of symetry.
And remove the Lines on it, it should be stilized, thats what a logo is usually like.
The colors are also still kinda "dark" (to call it right: Desaturared)
Bring some brighter colors in, and try to take Rief's advice, there's no clear indication that the lines in the back symbolize magic.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on May 06, 2012, 10:32:16 AM
Bottom Half looks Cybernetic
Upper Half looks like UV Rays ???

that is correct
the bottom half represent science
and the upper half represent magic...
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: mobychan on May 06, 2012, 10:34:16 AM
You mean UV Rays are magic Oo?
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on May 06, 2012, 10:38:28 AM
You mean UV Rays are magic Oo?
well the magic part of the logo isn't look like what i want in my sketch...
do you want to see the paper sketch?
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: D&P3 on May 06, 2012, 10:41:35 AM
The way this is going, you might as well :P
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on May 06, 2012, 11:26:19 AM
hey it there anyone know free alternative for adobe after effect?
because i want to see what people use other alternative before Google it (to avoid any virus attack on my PC)
can you recommend me one?
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: mobychan on May 06, 2012, 11:33:16 AM
HERE (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=alternative+for+adobe+after+effect)
There's no virus hiding in text, you don't have to worry.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Rief on May 06, 2012, 12:00:30 PM
Well, you get viruses as soon as you connect to the internet, so...

May i ask why you'll need such a program?
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on May 06, 2012, 12:05:38 PM
Well, you get viruses as soon as you connect to the internet, so...

May i ask why you'll need such a program?
well i cannot afford that adobe after effect(why they have to be so expensive like hell)... and some scene need to be use as a video... (and i will also create an end credits for the game using video than evening...)
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Rief on May 06, 2012, 12:12:14 PM
let me be clear:
you cannot speak or understand english very well(the point is, most programs are in english)
you cannot handle programs like paint.net and gimp cause they are too complex
you want to make videos, which are far more complex to handle than images

you really should overthink this.
what you could do is taking a videorecording software and record yourself while playing that scene you want as a video, do some minor cuts on it through windows movie maker and make your movies this way.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on May 06, 2012, 02:09:26 PM
here is some part of the storyline in a LORE in a minute kind of way...
*le storyline
Spoiler for:
once upon a time there is two family group called science & magic...
one time anrgon died in the year 3001 and some idiotic villain want to rage war against each other when he died.
but the only problem is kristine and sky who was a couple until the family broke their relationship...
sky think it not fair and try to set thing straight between the two family... but ended up battle and sabotage  between each other... Have fun...
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Rief on May 06, 2012, 02:25:46 PM
OMG, you said le instead of the, thats so funny cause it's french, ahahaha!

ok, now fr realz, about your story:
the families are called science and magic? thats really surprising, i thought that they would use science and magic, not that these would be familynames Oo
anrgon... how the hell do you spell that? pls, record a voicefile for this Oo
the villain wanna have a war with a dead man? i mean, you wrote he wants to rage war against anrgon AFTER he died, would'nt it make more sense if he wanted that before or is that his way of a 100% victory chance?
and the villains reason for this war is cause he is an idiot? (okay, makes sense in some kind of a way, but it's really lame)
and sky was a couple? a one person couple? (if you meant kristine and sky(by the way, both sound like female names, so are they?) are a couple, which i am sure is what you wanted to say, you should say "kristine and sky who were a couple")
how lame is there love if they let themselfs break up without a fight to the death?
and, for now the last question: why don't you write your own story? or at least don't make it so obvious that you wanna have your own little romeo and juliet.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Capua Aelita on May 06, 2012, 02:45:08 PM
I think that you're over-thinking your logo.

The bottom half is fine, but the top half could be something simple.
Try a fire logo or air.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: mobychan on May 06, 2012, 03:31:50 PM
The bottom half is fine, but the top half could be something simple.
Try a fire logo or air.

That would defeat the sense of having science and magic as in his title Oo
Or do you mean fire as symbol of magic?
doesn't make much sense to me Oo
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Capua Aelita on May 06, 2012, 03:38:48 PM
Something like this
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fnayleon.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2011%2F09%2Fmagic_fireball.jpg&hash=5ad41b0af4391368e47ccb5d0436b26895406553)

or this
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffc03.deviantart.net%2Ffs21%2Ff%2F2007%2F269%2Fc%2F3%2FFire_Magic_by_artistic_minds.jpg&hash=3a52dcd8868214c4fe7d21c553e02af5f10996a3)




Of course it should also be adapted to his style of drawing.
But the idea is still there :)
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Rief on May 06, 2012, 03:54:25 PM
No, it surely should'nt be adapted into his... "style"

yeah, that is fire, but it would say "fire and science". He, not WE, should find something that symbolises magic in a neutral way.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Capua Aelita on May 06, 2012, 04:02:16 PM
Well it was supposed to be just an example.

Essentially, he should have something which symbolizes the elements of magic.
You can't really show magic without seeing somebody do it.

And I don't think that having a person on the top and no one on the bottom would look good, so elemental symbols seem to be the best approach.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Mushu on May 06, 2012, 04:11:20 PM
I like it how it is. If I was going to add something, maybe a lightning storm in the back or a small fire logo right above the flask.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: AbsoluteIce on May 06, 2012, 04:43:23 PM
Jomarcenter, I got a proposition for ya'.
Spoiler for:
request a logo. I mean like, srsly.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Countdown on May 06, 2012, 09:33:04 PM
I'm still confused as to why he's looking for an alternative to After Effects? That program is for video. Shouldn't he be looking for something besides paint of Photoshop?

Anyway, there are a few boards around here that are logo shops. You should really request one, it would do your logo a lot of good.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: skaraflame on May 06, 2012, 09:49:37 PM
I've decided to be nice. Jomarcenter, if you want, you could tell me the story of the game and I could make it for you. If not, I will AT LEAST make a logo.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Countdown on May 06, 2012, 10:04:18 PM
I would volunteer, but next week is finals week and I'm swamped with finals, other projects, and moving out of my dorm room.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: skaraflame on May 06, 2012, 10:11:50 PM
Just read the story. Pissed myself laughing.

1. "idiotic villain who wants to rage war against eachother". How the FUCK does he propose to do that?

2. Anrgon? ANRGON? HOW is that pronounced? I just keep thinking Aragorn from Lord of the Rings and Aragog from Harry Potter.

3. Romeo and Juliet. Last names are science and magic? PISS off.

Changed my mind, I'm not even doing the logo.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: modern algebra on May 06, 2012, 10:44:00 PM
Did nobody read my post?  http://rmrk.net/index.php/topic,45560.msg521453.html#msg521453

Stop posting in this topic pretending you are only trying to help when it's clear that your only objective is to make fun of the game or its creator. I'm not that blind, and I'll ban the next person to do it. I've been pretty lenient so far since RMRK is a pretty lenient place, but this is obscene. I cannot imagine how you people derive so much pleasure from ridiculing children. It's sadistic.

To be clear, this post is particularly directed at skaraflame and Rief.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Countdown on May 06, 2012, 11:03:09 PM
Give me a week or two Jormacenter and I'll see if I can slap out a logo for you if you would like.

I'll give you a little bit of advice real fast. You are trying to crank out, what...three games right now? Two being in the same "Future Helper" series? Take a break and focus on creating one solid game for a while and when you have hit a wall with one, take a break and work on another, but don't try to make three games at once at the same time. It's not going to work. Trust me.

Also, you seem to be feeding the fire here by posting nonstop about what updates are out and what you've fixed and crud. I'd stop posting about all that and spend time actually making your game. Instead of mapping eight to ten different maps and filling them with nothing per day, slow down. Make one or two maps per day and put a lot of effort into them. Explore the screenshot thread and look at different examples of work from people. It worked for my friend and I, and it can work for you.

I can't help improve your story telling at all, and there have been some genuinely good story ideas for you posted in this thread. Take those into serious consideration instead of tossing them aside like you have been.

As unlikely I am to actually play your game, I'm still interested in seeing you succeed and make something that others will enjoy playing.

So seriously, consider my advice.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Illumination™ on May 06, 2012, 11:28:39 PM
Did nobody read my post?  http://rmrk.net/index.php/topic,45560.msg521453.html#msg521453

Stop posting in this topic pretending you are only trying to help when it's clear that your only objective is to make fun of the game or its creator. I'm not that blind, and I'll ban the next person to do it. I've been pretty lenient so far since RMRK is a pretty lenient place, but this is obscene. I cannot imagine how you people derive so much pleasure from ridiculing children. It's sadistic.

To be clear, this post is particularly directed at skaraflame and Rief.

Not taking any stance here, but how is this any different from all the other episodes with young people posting poor games or projects to then be played with or hated on? I can't remember exactly the usernames but I read tons of them, billybullshot or something and indeed Skaraflame himself I think.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: skaraflame on May 06, 2012, 11:38:03 PM
1. I don't derive pleasure. When it looks like I'm trying to help, I actually am.
2. It's not my objective, however I will admit that's how it looks.
3. I know that post wasn't directed at ONLY me, I just thought I'd clear that up.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: skaraflame on May 06, 2012, 11:41:05 PM
Did nobody read my post?  http://rmrk.net/index.php/topic,45560.msg521453.html#msg521453

Stop posting in this topic pretending you are only trying to help when it's clear that your only objective is to make fun of the game or its creator. I'm not that blind, and I'll ban the next person to do it. I've been pretty lenient so far since RMRK is a pretty lenient place, but this is obscene. I cannot imagine how you people derive so much pleasure from ridiculing children. It's sadistic.

To be clear, this post is particularly directed at skaraflame and Rief.

Not taking any stance here, but how is this any different from all the other episodes with young people posting poor games or projects to then be played with or hated on? I can't remember exactly the usernames but I read tons of them, billybullshot or something and indeed Skaraflame himself I think.
Yes. I do believe I got a lot of harsh criticism for Golden Trinity (which by the way I've nearly completed :P), but I can actually see it was a pretty abominable game, and if people were being nice about it, it would've given me the illusion that I actually did a good job on the game.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: modern algebra on May 06, 2012, 11:48:24 PM
Not taking any stance here, but how is this any different from all the other episodes with young people posting poor games or projects to then be played with or hated on? I can't remember exactly the usernames but I read tons of them, billybullshot or something and indeed Skaraflame himself I think.

I need links before I can comment with any specifics, as I do not recall either of those threads and would need to review them.

In any case, this isn't the common law, and we don't follow the doctrine of stare decisis. If there was misconduct by members or moderators in those threads and nothing was done, then we failed as moderators in that instance. That failure does not become a precedent that requires us to fail in all future situations where a member is being abused.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: strike on May 06, 2012, 11:51:29 PM
Did nobody read my post?  http://rmrk.net/index.php/topic,45560.msg521453.html#msg521453

Stop posting in this topic pretending you are only trying to help when it's clear that your only objective is to make fun of the game or its creator. I'm not that blind, and I'll ban the next person to do it. I've been pretty lenient so far since RMRK is a pretty lenient place, but this is obscene. I cannot imagine how you people derive so much pleasure from ridiculing children. It's sadistic.

To be clear, this post is particularly directed at skaraflame and Rief.

Not taking any stance here, but how is this any different from all the other episodes with young people posting poor games or projects to then be played with or hated on? I can't remember exactly the usernames but I read tons of them, billybullshot or something and indeed Skaraflame himself I think.
because in the case of 90% of those people they initially reacted very poorly to legit critiscim and then acted out and were douchebags in other threads. so we were dicks to them back.

jomar isn't being a dick and doesn't deserve people shitting on him constantly. call it hypocritical or whatever but don't act like you know how things went down before your time.

as for skara he at first didn't really aknowledge flaws in his game and was sort of court moron around other threads so he got hassled a bit but he has turned it around and at least tries to improve.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on May 06, 2012, 11:58:07 PM
Give me a week or two Jormacenter and I'll see if I can slap out a logo for you if you would like.

I'll give you a little bit of advice real fast. You are trying to crank out, what...three games right now? Two being in the same "Future Helper" series? Take a break and focus on creating one solid game for a while and when you have hit a wall with one, take a break and work on another, but don't try to make three games at once at the same time. It's not going to work. Trust me.

Also, you seem to be feeding the fire here by posting nonstop about what updates are out and what you've fixed and crud. I'd stop posting about all that and spend time actually making your game. Instead of mapping eight to ten different maps and filling them with nothing per day, slow down. Make one or two maps per day and put a lot of effort into them. Explore the screenshot thread and look at different examples of work from people. It worked for my friend and I, and it can work for you.

I can't help improve your story telling at all, and there have been some genuinely good story ideas for you posted in this thread. Take those into serious consideration instead of tossing them aside like you have been.

As unlikely I am to actually play your game, I'm still interested in seeing you succeed and make something that others will enjoy playing.

So seriously, consider my advice.
do you want me to add you to my team at the 64 digit competition that i'm entering...?

and do you know what modern siad before he temporary close the topic before...?
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: skaraflame on May 07, 2012, 12:52:54 AM
Give me a week or two Jormacenter and I'll see if I can slap out a logo for you if you would like.

I'll give you a little bit of advice real fast. You are trying to crank out, what...three games right now? Two being in the same "Future Helper" series? Take a break and focus on creating one solid game for a while and when you have hit a wall with one, take a break and work on another, but don't try to make three games at once at the same time. It's not going to work. Trust me.

Also, you seem to be feeding the fire here by posting nonstop about what updates are out and what you've fixed and crud. I'd stop posting about all that and spend time actually making your game. Instead of mapping eight to ten different maps and filling them with nothing per day, slow down. Make one or two maps per day and put a lot of effort into them. Explore the screenshot thread and look at different examples of work from people. It worked for my friend and I, and it can work for you.

I can't help improve your story telling at all, and there have been some genuinely good story ideas for you posted in this thread. Take those into serious consideration instead of tossing them aside like you have been.

As unlikely I am to actually play your game, I'm still interested in seeing you succeed and make something that others will enjoy playing.

So seriously, consider my advice.
do you want me to add you to my team at the 64 digit competition that i'm entering...?

and do you know what modern siad before he temporary close the topic before...?
So someone posts, and you think they want to be part of the team? NO LOGIC.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: strike on May 07, 2012, 12:54:59 AM
you realize that MA doesn't joke around right?
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: AbsoluteIce on May 07, 2012, 01:11:28 AM
Just read the story. Pissed myself laughing.

1. "idiotic villain who wants to rage war against eachother". How the FUCK does he propose to do that?

2. Anrgon? ANRGON? HOW is that pronounced? I just keep thinking Aragorn from Lord of the Rings and Aragog from Harry Potter.

3. Romeo and Juliet. Last names are science and magic? PISS off.

Changed my mind, I'm not even doing the logo.
Dear Skaraflame.
Why.. May I ask, Why are you giving advice but in a harsh and crude way?
I know that Jomarcenter may not be the best 'rpg maker' user, but he's not the worst.
Seriously, I just keep see-ing that you only post negative advice on the kid's thread. Never anything positive.
It's not that I hate you or anything Skaraflame, but I don't want this to go unjust. After all, he's just a 13 year old kid who's brain is still developing. Heck, I'm still a kid aswell. So please, forgive my rudeness and his aswell.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Lethrface on May 07, 2012, 01:23:48 AM
Give me a week or two Jormacenter and I'll see if I can slap out a logo for you if you would like.

I'll give you a little bit of advice real fast. You are trying to crank out, what...three games right now? Two being in the same "Future Helper" series? Take a break and focus on creating one solid game for a while and when you have hit a wall with one, take a break and work on another, but don't try to make three games at once at the same time. It's not going to work. Trust me.

Also, you seem to be feeding the fire here by posting nonstop about what updates are out and what you've fixed and crud. I'd stop posting about all that and spend time actually making your game. Instead of mapping eight to ten different maps and filling them with nothing per day, slow down. Make one or two maps per day and put a lot of effort into them. Explore the screenshot thread and look at different examples of work from people. It worked for my friend and I, and it can work for you.

I can't help improve your story telling at all, and there have been some genuinely good story ideas for you posted in this thread. Take those into serious consideration instead of tossing them aside like you have been.

As unlikely I am to actually play your game, I'm still interested in seeing you succeed and make something that others will enjoy playing.

So seriously, consider my advice.
do you want me to add you to my team at the 64 digit competition that i'm entering...?

and do you know what modern siad before he temporary close the topic before...?
So someone posts, and you think they want to be part of the team? NO LOGIC.

Best to let countdown answer for himself.  Everyone got warned once already and you keep pushing that line.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Countdown on May 07, 2012, 02:28:04 AM
Give me a week or two Jormacenter and I'll see if I can slap out a logo for you if you would like.

I'll give you a little bit of advice real fast. You are trying to crank out, what...three games right now? Two being in the same "Future Helper" series? Take a break and focus on creating one solid game for a while and when you have hit a wall with one, take a break and work on another, but don't try to make three games at once at the same time. It's not going to work. Trust me.

Also, you seem to be feeding the fire here by posting nonstop about what updates are out and what you've fixed and crud. I'd stop posting about all that and spend time actually making your game. Instead of mapping eight to ten different maps and filling them with nothing per day, slow down. Make one or two maps per day and put a lot of effort into them. Explore the screenshot thread and look at different examples of work from people. It worked for my friend and I, and it can work for you.

I can't help improve your story telling at all, and there have been some genuinely good story ideas for you posted in this thread. Take those into serious consideration instead of tossing them aside like you have been.

As unlikely I am to actually play your game, I'm still interested in seeing you succeed and make something that others will enjoy playing.

So seriously, consider my advice.
do you want me to add you to my team at the 64 digit competition that i'm entering...?

and do you know what modern siad before he temporary close the topic before...?
So someone posts, and you think they want to be part of the team? NO LOGIC.

Best to let countdown answer for himself.  Everyone got warned once already and you keep pushing that line.

I dunno if you're saying that I'm pushing that line. I don't feel like I am. I was just giving honest, genuine advice that Jormacenter definitely needs. As for do I want to be on the team. Thank you, but no thank you. I'm perfectly content watching from the sidelines. Just add credit to me if you use my logo.

Jormacenter, yes, I know what Modern said before he locked to topic...what's your point? Anyway, back to business. If you would, please PM me the details you want for ONE of your game's logos and I'll see if I can do it.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: modern algebra on May 07, 2012, 02:35:50 AM
@Countdown - you've not done anything wrong. Your post is a genuine attempt to help, and I wish that other people would take it as an example of the kind of criticism that might actually help jomarcenter improve, free from the abusive derision that infuses too many posts in this thread. Lethrface was speaking to skaraflame, who I've banned for one day as a result of that post.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on May 07, 2012, 10:24:24 AM
here is the spoiler-free screen shot for the seven tower game
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Frpgmaker.net%2Fmedia%2Fcontent%2Fgames%2F3926%2Fscreenshots%2Fpreview_001213.png&hash=18ba5e9aa9b192ca0247e88cdcfcdd638091425f)
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Frpgmaker.net%2Fmedia%2Fcontent%2Fgames%2F3926%2Fscreenshots%2Fpreview_1231.png&hash=c62c11c566a9144449898ee6bba483586a60d5a2)
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: mobychan on May 07, 2012, 11:17:34 AM
Some things about the colors:
They just don't work well together and look strange.
Especially the Red line in the first screenshot hurts when looking at it.
Try using a darker blue for the borders and a really dark blue(nearly black) for the lines
also try to avoid using that green, choose a darker one
and in the lower right corner you write N-PC not N-Pad, may I ask why?

regarding the 2. screenshot:
If you want to use a blue windowskin, stick to the default one or try mixing in some red and green in the current one, your current windowskin doesn't fit well with the RTP tiles thus seeming out of place because it's too bright
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on May 07, 2012, 11:44:58 AM
Some things about the colors:
They just don't work well together and look strange.
Especially the Red line in the first screenshot hurts when looking at it.
Try using a darker blue for the borders and a really dark blue(nearly black) for the lines
also try to avoid using that green, choose a darker one
and in the lower right corner you write N-PC not N-Pad, may I ask why?

regarding the 2. screenshot:
If you want to use a blue windowskin, stick to the default one or try mixing in some red and green in the current one, your current windowskin doesn't fit well with the RTP tiles thus seeming out of place because it's too bright

well the first photo is fix, while the second photo the window skin is editable through the option menu
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Frpgmaker.net%2Fmedia%2Fcontent%2Fgames%2F3926%2Fscreenshots%2Fpreview_292902910.png&hash=a85cb9f763132117442e255e5bbb82c438fb4e5c)

and the N-PC and the N-PAD are using the same Operating system so it look like the same and i forgot to change that lower right part of the N-pad screen...
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Illumination™ on May 07, 2012, 12:10:50 PM
Did nobody read my post?  http://rmrk.net/index.php/topic,45560.msg521453.html#msg521453

Stop posting in this topic pretending you are only trying to help when it's clear that your only objective is to make fun of the game or its creator. I'm not that blind, and I'll ban the next person to do it. I've been pretty lenient so far since RMRK is a pretty lenient place, but this is obscene. I cannot imagine how you people derive so much pleasure from ridiculing children. It's sadistic.

To be clear, this post is particularly directed at skaraflame and Rief.

Not taking any stance here, but how is this any different from all the other episodes with young people posting poor games or projects to then be played with or hated on? I can't remember exactly the usernames but I read tons of them, billybullshot or something and indeed Skaraflame himself I think.
because in the case of 90% of those people they initially reacted very poorly to legit critiscim and then acted out and were douchebags in other threads. so we were dicks to them back.

jomar isn't being a dick and doesn't deserve people shitting on him constantly. call it hypocritical or whatever but don't act like you know how things went down before your time.

as for skara he at first didn't really aknowledge flaws in his game and was sort of court moron around other threads so he got hassled a bit but he has turned it around and at least tries to improve.

It is a thread, written in text, and as a matter of fact, therefore me reading it now works in just the same way as the people reading the thread back then. You make no sense. I also said that I am not taking any stance or telling anyone they are wrong here, just pointing out something I find strange.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: mobychan on May 07, 2012, 12:22:16 PM
well the first photo is fix, while the second photo the window skin is editable through the option menu

Which script are you using for this?
maybe you can adjust the "start" values for the windowskin so it definitly looks nice(r) when starting the game

Also, how does the "new" screen look like?
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on May 07, 2012, 12:31:29 PM
well the first photo is fix, while the second photo the window skin is editable through the option menu

Which script are you using for this?
maybe you can adjust the "start" values for the windowskin so it definitly looks nice(r) when starting the game

Also, how does the "new" screen look like?
the script i use is one of yanfly's system option scripts link: http://yanflychannel.wordpress.com/rmvxa/menu-scripts/system-options/
well this is the new n-pad screen
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Frpgmaker.net%2Fmedia%2Fcontent%2Fgames%2F3926%2Fscreenshots%2Fnpad.png&hash=dcdd560b65bdc8baeebb4beac6d204c7d49721e3)
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: mobychan on May 07, 2012, 12:54:54 PM
definitly better
some further tips:
erase the line behind the N-Pad "heading", it's hard to read this way
Try to make the blue borders at the top and bottom darker than the center (or lighten up the center accordingly), attention is draw to the borders but I believe it should be the center where text will be displayed, or am I wrong?
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on May 07, 2012, 01:20:55 PM
definitly better
some further tips:
erase the line behind the N-Pad "heading", it's hard to read this way
Try to make the blue borders at the top and bottom darker than the center (or lighten up the center accordingly), attention is draw to the borders but I believe it should be the center where text will be displayed, or am I wrong?
now changing it...
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: sawworm on May 07, 2012, 04:22:05 PM
version 0.2 had a ton of new feature here is one of the sample.
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi861.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fab180%2Fjomarcenter%2Fpreviewnewscript001.png&hash=db2ee7d618e1072c9083fec0f6ce1d4a6c0b232d)
i changed the save/load screen using one of yanfly scripts ( http://yanflychannel.wordpress.com/rmvxa/menu-scripts/ace-save-engine/ ) .
Nice capital letters we got there.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Rief on May 07, 2012, 06:56:55 PM
well the first photo is fix, while the second photo the window skin is editable through the option menu

Which script are you using for this?
maybe you can adjust the "start" values for the windowskin so it definitly looks nice(r) when starting the game

Also, how does the "new" screen look like?
the script i use is one of yanfly's system option scripts link: http://yanflychannel.wordpress.com/rmvxa/menu-scripts/system-options/
well this is the new n-pad screen
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Frpgmaker.net%2Fmedia%2Fcontent%2Fgames%2F3926%2Fscreenshots%2Fnpad.png&hash=dcdd560b65bdc8baeebb4beac6d204c7d49721e3)

I think the colors are to simple. try giving them some flow, like the standard windowskin has.
also, why not implement changable backgrounds for the N-Pad?
by the way, what is the purpose of the N-Pad? what can it do?
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: DoctorTodd on May 07, 2012, 08:42:54 PM
Hey Jormarcenter, not to discourage your work but I could always make something for you.  :)
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Countdown on May 07, 2012, 09:09:09 PM
Hey Jormarcenter, not to discourage your work but I could always make something for you.  :)

I hope you're not talking about the logo, because I'm nearly done with it.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: DoctorTodd on May 07, 2012, 09:13:54 PM
No the N-pad. I went a head and made it just in case.  :)

Spoiler for :
No credit required.  :)
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdesmond.imageshack.us%2FHimg856%2Fscaled.php%3Fserver%3D856%26amp%3Bfilename%3Dforjormacenter.png%26amp%3Bres%3Dlanding&hash=babdece81995b67495213bed66c0e0cd23ef9dbd)
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Countdown on May 07, 2012, 09:48:31 PM
Here's the logo that I made. I decided halfway through that I didn't like the way that you (Jormacenter) designed it. It just didn't fit my taste. So I took some liberties with it. If you don't like it or want anything changed, I'll see what I can do.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: modern algebra on May 07, 2012, 10:00:46 PM
That looks pretty cool Countdown. I like the N-Pad you made too DoctorTodd
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on May 08, 2012, 01:19:08 AM
No the N-pad. I went a head and made it just in case.  :)

Spoiler for :
No credit required.  :)
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdesmond.imageshack.us%2FHimg856%2Fscaled.php%3Fserver%3D856%26amp%3Bfilename%3Dforjormacenter.png%26amp%3Bres%3Dlanding&hash=babdece81995b67495213bed66c0e0cd23ef9dbd)
wow it kinda look good...
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on May 08, 2012, 01:25:14 AM
well the first photo is fix, while the second photo the window skin is editable through the option menu

Which script are you using for this?
maybe you can adjust the "start" values for the windowskin so it definitly looks nice(r) when starting the game

Also, how does the "new" screen look like?
the script i use is one of yanfly's system option scripts link: http://yanflychannel.wordpress.com/rmvxa/menu-scripts/system-options/
well this is the new n-pad screen
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Frpgmaker.net%2Fmedia%2Fcontent%2Fgames%2F3926%2Fscreenshots%2Fnpad.png&hash=dcdd560b65bdc8baeebb4beac6d204c7d49721e3)

I think the colors are to simple. try giving them some flow, like the standard windowskin has.
also, why not implement changable backgrounds for the N-Pad?
by the way, what is the purpose of the N-Pad? what can it do?
well the n-pad is an intergalactic mobile device..
-dna transformation unit
-latest gps technology
-intergalactic contact system
-hologram v-pet
-realistic item projection unit
-important investigation system
-health system unit
-tracing system

and it also add-on friendly (so it can add more feature)
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on May 08, 2012, 01:26:51 AM
Here's the logo that I made. I decided halfway through that I didn't like the way that you (Jormacenter) designed it. It just didn't fit my taste. So I took some liberties with it. If you don't like it or want anything changed, I'll see what I can do.
the logo it looking good...
sorry for triple posting (because 2 of them it look long..
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: DoctorTodd on May 08, 2012, 01:28:34 AM
Also here's a version so the background may be changed.  :)
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on May 08, 2012, 01:31:27 AM
Also here's a version so the background may be changed.  :)
saving it to my pc...
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Countdown on May 08, 2012, 03:02:24 AM
I'm sorry, not to be rude. But I spend time making a logo and all I get is a "the logo it looking good..."? What exactly does that mean?
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on May 08, 2012, 03:08:02 AM
I'm sorry, not to be rude. But I spend time making a logo and all I get is a "the logo it looking good..."? What exactly does that mean?
means that the logo it now good enough for the game but can be improved...
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Mushu on May 08, 2012, 03:13:51 AM
Here's the logo that I made. I decided halfway through that I didn't like the way that you (Jormacenter) designed it. It just didn't fit my taste. So I took some liberties with it. If you don't like it or want anything changed, I'll see what I can do.
What editor do you use? Those are some nice effects.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: tSwitch on May 08, 2012, 03:24:27 AM
Here's the logo that I made. I decided halfway through that I didn't like the way that you (Jormacenter) designed it. It just didn't fit my taste. So I took some liberties with it. If you don't like it or want anything changed, I'll see what I can do.
What editor do you use? Those are some nice effects.

It looks like brushes to me.  So it could be Photoshop, or GIMP if they support brushes.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Zylos on May 08, 2012, 03:26:36 AM
GIMP does as well as Photoshop. No matter which program though, it looks more awesome than anything else in this project thread so far.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Countdown on May 08, 2012, 03:27:06 AM
Here's the logo that I made. I decided halfway through that I didn't like the way that you (Jormacenter) designed it. It just didn't fit my taste. So I took some liberties with it. If you don't like it or want anything changed, I'll see what I can do.
What editor do you use? Those are some nice effects.

Thank you! I use Photoshop CS5. It's the only editing program that I'm familiar with. I used a few flourish brushes then added some sparkles and blurred them then added a white drop shadow to them. The hardest part was getting the vial merge with the tower.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Mushu on May 08, 2012, 03:31:53 AM
GIMP does as well as Photoshop. No matter which program though, it looks more awesome than anything else in this project thread so far.
Unless I didn't dig deep enough in gimp, it has less special effects. I couldn't do any of the inner glare effects(was trying to for words) and the brushes for gimp are just dragging a set brush around, it doesn't do any sprouting or anything. I think I'ma go get photoshop. >_>
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Countdown on May 08, 2012, 03:33:17 AM
GIMP does as well as Photoshop. No matter which program though, it looks more awesome than anything else in this project thread so far.


Thank you very much. I appreciate the compliment.

EDIT: It was said that my logo is good but still needs to be worked on. Jormacenter, what do you mean? What's wrong with it? What is it that you don't like about it?
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on May 08, 2012, 04:18:50 AM
GIMP does as well as Photoshop. No matter which program though, it looks more awesome than anything else in this project thread so far.


Thank you very much. I appreciate the compliment.

EDIT: It was said that my logo is good but still needs to be worked on. Jormacenter, what do you mean? What's wrong with it? What is it that you don't like about it?
the logo is ready but you can improved a bit of it.. but you don't need to edit the logo since it now ready to use i just saying it now ready but you can add some detail effect...
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: skaraflame on May 08, 2012, 04:24:07 AM
1. I don't derive pleasure. When it looks like I'm trying to help, I actually am.
2. It's not my objective, however I will admit that's how it looks.
3. I know that post wasn't directed at ONLY me, I just thought I'd clear that up.
I do believe this was totally ignored.
At the end of the day, I'm sarcastic-as-fuck 24/7, and it's how the internet works.
I lol'd at my ban.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: yuyu! on May 08, 2012, 05:36:56 AM
Wow, that logo is amazing!! I can say the same thing for the N-Pad thingie! Great job, you two! :) I honestly don't think the logo needs more work, it's pretty detailed as it is. Typically logos don't need too much detail. :) But, hey? That's just my opinion~

Jomar, You're alright in my books. :P You seem to be learning a lot about RPG Maker, and certainly have a ton of enthusiasm for your game. Darn, I gotta respect you for moving onward with all this stuff around you.

You know I was just joking with the court thread stuff, right? ;o
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: yuyu! on May 08, 2012, 05:42:37 AM
I do believe this was totally ignored.
At the end of the day, I'm sarcastic-as-fuck 24/7, and it's how the internet works.
I lol'd at my ban.
:rfuckthat:
I think you should be more careful about egging people on in this thread... ;9
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Rief on May 08, 2012, 05:55:12 AM
GIMP does as well as Photoshop. No matter which program though, it looks more awesome than anything else in this project thread so far.


Thank you very much. I appreciate the compliment.

EDIT: It was said that my logo is good but still needs to be worked on. Jormacenter, what do you mean? What's wrong with it? What is it that you don't like about it?
the logo is ready but you can improved a bit of it.. but you don't need to edit the logo since it now ready to use i just saying it now ready but you can add some detail effect...

So, he should not edit it but he should edit it?

Well, i think the Logo is awesome. sure, you could "improve" it, or more change it a little so that it fits other tastes. But i think there is no need to change it, as it looks damn good like this and hits right what jomarcenter wants.
On the other hand, it has too much detail for a logo, but thats just for my taste.

So, jomar, if you use that logo and people see it, they await a really good game, be sure to accomplish that.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: haloOfTheSun on May 08, 2012, 06:13:43 AM
I do believe this was totally ignored.
At the end of the day, I'm sarcastic-as-fuck 24/7, and it's how the internet works.
I lol'd at my ban.
:rfuckthat:
I think you should be more careful about egging people on in this thread... ;9

It's okay, he already got banned for a month.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Lethrface on May 08, 2012, 06:52:01 AM
1. I don't derive pleasure. When it looks like I'm trying to help, I actually am.
2. It's not my objective, however I will admit that's how it looks.
3. I know that post wasn't directed at ONLY me, I just thought I'd clear that up.
I do believe this was totally ignored.
At the end of the day, I'm sarcastic-as-fuck 24/7, and it's how the internet works.
I lol'd at my ban.
Alright man, you've gone from dumb to total retard.  Nobody missed your point but you were totally asking for the ban because you just wont shut the hell up.


On the note of the logo, really good job Countdown.  The only problem that I personally have about the detail of the logo is the fact that unless someone joins Jomar in working on the game, it will not fit the art style of the rest of the game.

I do believe this was totally ignored.
At the end of the day, I'm sarcastic-as-fuck 24/7, and it's how the internet works.
I lol'd at my ban.
:rfuckthat:
I think you should be more careful about egging people on in this thread... ;9

It's okay, he already got banned for a month.

Totally should have tried to post this sooner instead of leaving my browser open in this reply for as long as I did because I wouldn't have typed what I did toward him had I seen that lol...regardless, I will keep it for the giggles.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: mobychan on May 08, 2012, 08:29:22 AM
On the note of the logo, really good job Countdown.  The only problem that I personally have about the detail of the logo is the fact that unless someone joins Jomar in working on the game, it will not fit the art style of the rest of the game.

I like the logo too ^^
It's very good, but as you said: it will be really difficult for jomar to match the expectations it rises.
Also jomar:
If you don't know what could be improved (and I have to admit I doubt you do) you shouldn't say that it can.
He told you to tell him if you want something changed, then tell him or don't say it can be improved Oo

Also:
"Thank you very much I'll gladly use it" ;) (or something along the line)
After all he worked hard for your game and wants to know if you're going to use it!
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Esmeralda on May 08, 2012, 08:33:10 AM
The new logo isn't as colorful as the old one :(
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: mobychan on May 08, 2012, 08:59:33 AM
But more fitting for the serious story jomar plans, I think, after all it's a family war.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on May 08, 2012, 11:19:43 AM
But more fitting for the serious story jomar plans, I think, after all it's a family war.
well i will have to wait until the title (the name of the game) is added to the logo and i will see if it now ready to use...
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: mobychan on May 08, 2012, 11:22:29 AM
Then you should tell him that you want the text on it Oo
He can't guess what you are thinking Oo
Or try doing at least that yourself...
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on May 08, 2012, 02:03:54 PM
Then you should tell him that you want the text on it Oo
He can't guess what you are thinking Oo
Or try doing at least that yourself...
well he already pm me about the title i just waiting for the reply...
and i kinda like to revisit my old game that i created using stencyl (yeah my other game got an award...) and add new levels
the game called shoot the ball robot (it got 4th place on the top 5 newgrounds submission as of jan 15 2012)
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Capua Aelita on May 08, 2012, 03:30:31 PM
I'm sorry Jomar but I don't believe that your game won any awards for excelling in anything.

Please provide proof if I am wrong.
Also I don't think that logo that countdown made will look very good for your game. Same goes for Todds window.

There art looks pretty nice, and unless you somehow get them to work on all the artwork for your game, it's just going to look inconsistent and very unpretty.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Zylos on May 08, 2012, 03:33:24 PM
I think he meant his Stencyl flash game on Newgrounds, which if I recall right is pretty much just one of the example projects that came with Stencyl but with some... "Jomarcentering" done to it to tone it down.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Countdown on May 08, 2012, 04:41:11 PM
So what (in everybody here's opinion) should be done to make the logo fit more of Jorma's style?

And I really appreciate the compliments. I've never really gotten compliments for my art before.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: mobychan on May 08, 2012, 04:47:37 PM
It should be the other way round:
Jomar should try aiming for better art, not just some colors put on a screen in paint (or whatever he uses).

@Jomar: How about reading Tutorials and trying some effects on your other images (eg the "newspaper" one?) to make them look more like "art" / make them show that there's work behind it
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Lethrface on May 08, 2012, 05:01:25 PM
I'm sorry Jomar but I don't believe that your game won any awards for excelling in anything.
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/588041

His flash game. He got a daily 4th place.  Most of his games seem to be incomplete for the most part.  I won't even say why I think he got that.

I'm seeing a trend there, Jomarcenter.  You really do seem to have troubles finishing a game or just completely half-assing a project.  I strongly encourage you to drop one of your three current games and finish one.  One of your games on there has been there since 2010 and none of the problems with it were worked out and then the next one was made in may of last year and all it has is a couple introduction levels that explain some things.  If that is any indication of your drive to complete a game, I think some of the people's CONSTRUCTIVE criticism telling you to finish one project at a time may have merit. 

At the very least, take the 64 digits competition seriously and don't get too distracted with it because you have three months to make something good and you have a lot of improving to do on your skills with graphics and, your english and mastery with RPG Maker if that is what you plan on using because there are a lot of people there that are entering and can make some really impressive games and you will need to take that drive that you seem to be spreading across 4 or 5 different games and apply it to that one game or you won't even see the top 50.

At the very least take what I am saying into consideration.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on May 08, 2012, 11:55:16 PM
i have to work on the version 0.3 on future helper and the seven tower first so back at rmn will not spamming the comment with random fake skills detail...
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on May 09, 2012, 12:58:24 PM
link to version 0.3 download
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?wjd2v55y1onuwnj
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: mobychan on May 10, 2012, 01:58:14 PM
Which game do you want to focus on now, Jomar?
I'd recommend the contest one and therefor put "the seven towers" aside for now.

So, Jomar, if you really want my help, here's an advise:
Try to write down most part of your story.
There's no need for sidequest and stuff, just the plain story that's happening.
Then I'll help you correct Spelling/Grammar and logic mistakes and help you on developing it a bit.
From there you can start thinking about all locations, and start mapping.
remember: you can always go back later to change stuff, but you should always do your best
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Rief on May 10, 2012, 06:59:17 PM
Which game do you want to focus on now, Jomar?
I'd recommend the contest one and therefor put "the seven towers" aside for now.

So, Jomar, if you really want my help, here's an advise:
Try to write down most part of your story.
There's no need for sidequest and stuff, just the plain story that's happening.
Then I'll help you correct Spelling/Grammar and logic mistakes and help you on developing it a bit.
From there you can start thinking about all locations, and start mapping.
remember: you can always go back later to change stuff, but you should always do your best
Same goes for me, i see it as a challenge to make something really cool out of your game, i mean, the idea is really not bad.

And one advise: STOP bashing versions Oo
We don't need a new Version every week, make one, let's say, every half a year, for now.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Lethrface on May 10, 2012, 07:13:05 PM
agreed
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on May 12, 2012, 05:03:07 AM
Which game do you want to focus on now, Jomar?
I'd recommend the contest one and therefor put "the seven towers" aside for now.

So, Jomar, if you really want my help, here's an advise:
Try to write down most part of your story.
There's no need for sidequest and stuff, just the plain story that's happening.
Then I'll help you correct Spelling/Grammar and logic mistakes and help you on developing it a bit.
From there you can start thinking about all locations, and start mapping.
remember: you can always go back later to change stuff, but you should always do your best
well i going to focus  on the contest since it won't have any effect on the seven tower (just only a few spoilers about seven tower in the other game since Alex really became memorial since he save the world from certain destruction... and since the other game having a very long story and plot twist i may have to compile them by part like book 1 is where the history of their family start and then book 2 is where the plan will start and book 3 and above i may work on them very soon) so my competition entry is book one for the game and after competition i can continue work on seven tower or making book 2 after...
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: mobychan on May 12, 2012, 05:59:44 AM
then think about how the story of all books should go, kinda like a red thread, so it's easier to plan the first one accodingly.
And I think how you want it to be separated, it will be about as short as your current Seven Tower "Demo", that's far to short for the contest, I think
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on May 12, 2012, 10:41:06 AM
now i got bad luck.. while i'm saving the game i got bsod and crash my pc... and the known cause of problem is google chrome running and cause the crash now i lost all data in the game but i have no back up on it(and i can only recovered only one file left in the save)...
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: mobychan on May 12, 2012, 10:44:18 AM
Don't let yourself be discouraged!
Start a new Project and let's begin ;)
Like I recommended, before doing much on the project itself, try focusing on the main part of the story and writing everything down (so I can help you with unclear passages that may come up)
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Lethrface on May 12, 2012, 10:45:31 AM
As for the BSOD, that doesn't sound like a problem in your game or in google chrome.  It sounds like a memory dump.  You should probably back up what you do have and get the computer looked at or upgrade your computer.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: mobychan on May 12, 2012, 11:29:21 AM
How many Tabs do you have open in Google Chrome?
It has a Process for each Tab so having many Tabs open at the same time could be a problem.
Try keeping it shut down while working and only start it when you have a backup of your work ^.-
That at least helps for now, but giving it to somebody to check it is a good idea ^^
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on May 12, 2012, 11:52:46 AM
How many Tabs do you have open in Google Chrome?
It has a Process for each Tab so having many Tabs open at the same time could be a problem.
Try keeping it shut down while working and only start it when you have a backup of your work ^.-
That at least helps for now, but giving it to somebody to check it is a good idea ^^
thank for the info...

and i already recovered/remake the map that i lost (only 9 maps was lost since i already made 9 maps before the corruption...)
and i really need some help with grammar and other stuff (which i can show you the game with you can edit it for direct editing and check)
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: mobychan on May 12, 2012, 11:56:18 AM
Ok, just send me the file when you got something ready ^^
I'll also look at all the maps and give you tips how to (if possible) improve them and other stuff I find ^^
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on May 12, 2012, 01:17:49 PM
Well my computer is totally screwed!!! i don't know what the hell had happen now... i been getting a errors a ton of them saying about cannot read data because of (random number that i don't understand) with (random number that i don't understand) because of (random number that i don't understand) but i started online backup of some of my file possible ready for format or something when someone going to check it...
and also backup all of the current future helper game files... so all hard work won't do something wrong...
(now i found out what cause it a virus that someone put it on in this pc!!!!)
and sometime it saying there a problem in explorer.exe
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: mobychan on May 12, 2012, 01:33:12 PM
Then the only thing I can do at the moment is wishing good luck that everything can be fixed fast ^^
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: D&P3 on May 12, 2012, 01:43:27 PM
You're gonna have to backup your game and then do a format of your whole PC.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: AbsoluteIce on May 12, 2012, 01:53:05 PM
Yeah.
I suggest you backup your data first, then format your computer.
Here's a guide for windows xp/vista/7 ;
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/313348 (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/313348)
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: D&P3 on May 12, 2012, 02:02:37 PM
That method is far more trouble than it's worth unless you know what you're doing.

Jomar should just copy/backup important things on an external device (USB, HDD, SD Card) and then just format the computer.

It's much more simplistic for someone like him :)
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on May 12, 2012, 02:06:20 PM
can anyone look up into this what i took in my pc
edit: and can anyone also look up about this error
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: mobychan on May 12, 2012, 02:13:40 PM
Is that DrWatson Program something you executed?
If it blocks you from making back ups/formatting try starting Windows in (how is it in english...) Safe Mode?
here's how to (http://www.pchell.com/support/safemode.shtml)

Edit: the second one is an error in some adresses used inside the code of a program, I think there's nothing we can do about that at the moment...
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: D&P3 on May 12, 2012, 02:40:49 PM
the second one is an error in some adresses used inside the code of a program, I think there's nothing we can do about that at the moment...
The program that is saying that is windows explorer.
Windows explorer is basically
Spoiler for this:
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg4host.net%2Fupload%2F121631544fae745a69ebd.JPG&hash=58d8d1f01edb9d9fe92a3da3a89d0f77e4f3fe64)


(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg4host.net%2Fupload%2F121633294fae74b9cdb14.JPG&hash=67d6fb6ebff968081ade30c37f4437ffdea10453)

and without it, you would be forced to use this to do things on your computer
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg4host.net%2Fupload%2F121637544fae75c2eab2e.JPG&hash=18cf23cb5e2a6a81a7dcb6e8f986a708d75bc14f)

explorer.exe comes with reserved slots on the RAM, so if it is complaining, that either means that you're using far too much memory (which is unlikely), your RAM or CPU is screwed, or you've got a virus which is infecting your computer on start-up.
Meaning that safe mode probably won't help it (but you should try just in case).

Your only hope is to format it.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on May 13, 2012, 12:42:11 AM
the second one is an error in some adresses used inside the code of a program, I think there's nothing we can do about that at the moment...
The program that is saying that is windows explorer.
Windows explorer is basically
Spoiler for this:
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg4host.net%2Fupload%2F121631544fae745a69ebd.JPG&hash=58d8d1f01edb9d9fe92a3da3a89d0f77e4f3fe64)


(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg4host.net%2Fupload%2F121633294fae74b9cdb14.JPG&hash=67d6fb6ebff968081ade30c37f4437ffdea10453)

and without it, you would be forced to use this to do things on your computer
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg4host.net%2Fupload%2F121637544fae75c2eab2e.JPG&hash=18cf23cb5e2a6a81a7dcb6e8f986a708d75bc14f)

explorer.exe comes with reserved slots on the RAM, so if it is complaining, that either means that you're using far too much memory (which is unlikely), your RAM or CPU is screwed, or you've got a virus which is infecting your computer on start-up.
Meaning that safe mode probably won't help it (but you should try just in case).

Your only hope is to format it.
well i don't know if it a virus or registry error... because when i try to update my anti-virus software also got screw when try to update... it give me a error when i try to update it...
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: D&P3 on May 13, 2012, 12:57:55 AM
Does it only give you an error when you try installing an anti-virus program?

Or does this happen randomly?



You should still format your PC.
If it still gives errors after that, then it's a hardware problem.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on May 13, 2012, 12:58:48 AM
Does it only give you an error when you try installing an anti-virus program?

Or does this happen randomly?
when i try to update my anti-virus software...
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: D&P3 on May 13, 2012, 01:00:28 AM
Does it happen when you DON'T try to do anything with your anti-virus?
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on May 13, 2012, 01:05:38 AM
Does it happen when you DON'T try to do anything with your anti-virus?
NO!!!
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: D&P3 on May 13, 2012, 01:12:59 AM
Let me get this straight.

Your computer runs just fine, it only breaks when you run an anti-virus program, which subsequently corrupted your game...

Are you trying more than one anti-virus program?
Try Avira AntiVir (http://download.cnet.com/Avira-Free-Antivirus/3000-2239_4-10322935.html?part=dl-&subj=dl&tag=button)
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on May 13, 2012, 01:32:04 AM
Does it happen when you DON'T try to do anything with your anti-virus?
update with this question...
now YES!!!
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Fall From Eden on May 13, 2012, 03:29:17 AM
Something tells me that your current OS setup is pretty hosed. Take the advice you've been given already: back up important files to an external device, then format the hard drive and reinstall the operating system. Hopefully that should fix things. If you still get a BSOD (which is usually a hardware problem these days anyway) or other memory-related problems with Explorer, you most likely have corrupted memory, in which case you can buy and install new memory (it's relatively cheap).

Good luck. :)
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on May 13, 2012, 06:25:18 AM
Something tells me that your current OS setup is pretty hosed. Take the advice you've been given already: back up important files to an external device, then format the hard drive and reinstall the operating system. Hopefully that should fix things. If you still get a BSOD (which is usually a hardware problem these days anyway) or other memory-related problems with Explorer, you most likely have corrupted memory, in which case you can buy and install new memory (it's relatively cheap).

Good luck. :)
Now it the hardware problem because the pc is totally dead...
Now the problem is wrost... Because my pc cannot boot now...
And I been hearing strange noise in my pc...
But the good news is I backup some of the files to the Internet...
Now the only way is to repair and replace or buy a new pc altogether...
I'm typing this in a phone... Just to get you informed...

I really got bad luck but then again the pc is getting old...
So all project is dead until further notice...
I don't know if the hard drive is recoverable because it contain a ton of irreplaceable files...
R.I.P.
Jomarcenter Pc
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Fall From Eden on May 13, 2012, 06:32:14 AM
For what it's worth, I doubt that the files themselves are unrecoverable, even if the operating system is. It's just a matter of accessing the files stored on the drive, which really isn't too hard. :)
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on May 13, 2012, 06:39:28 AM
For what it's worth, I doubt that the files themselves are unrecoverable, even if the operating system is. It's just a matter of accessing the files stored on the drive, which really isn't too hard. :)
Well im using dell xps m330 (laptop) and I don't know where my harddrive located is but the sound came from the bottom left of the pc.
But i hoped is it recoverable so I can recover the files...
Well the only thing to do is to think on what to do next since the pc is dead...
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Mushu on May 13, 2012, 06:44:06 AM
Give it a proper burial. 8)
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on May 13, 2012, 07:01:12 AM
Give it a proper burial. 8)
That not helping...

But thank for all of your help throughout the future helper production but I hoped that I could return back to work on the project. But I cannot since my Pc is dead...
So thank for all of help... I been planning to make it great and such...

Goodbye for now.
Jomarcenter
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: chewey on May 13, 2012, 07:33:16 AM
Now it the hardware problem because the pc is totally dead...
Now the problem is wrost... Because my pc cannot boot now...
And I been hearing strange noise in my pc...
But the good news is I backup some of the files to the Internet...
Now the only way is to repair and replace or buy a new pc altogether...
I'm typing this in a phone... Just to get you informed...

I really got bad luck but then again the pc is getting old...
So all project is dead until further notice...
I don't know if the hard drive is recoverable because it contain a ton of irreplaceable files...
R.I.P.
Jomarcenter Pc
If your computer doesn't turn on at all, that means your power supply died. Power supplies are sometimes on the bottom left of a computer.

Your hard drive should be fine, in any case. You can open up your case and take the hard drive out, which is pretty easy. You can put the hard drive in an external enclosure to use it as an external hard drive.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on May 13, 2012, 07:48:23 AM
Now it the hardware problem because the pc is totally dead...
Now the problem is wrost... Because my pc cannot boot now...
And I been hearing strange noise in my pc...
But the good news is I backup some of the files to the Internet...
Now the only way is to repair and replace or buy a new pc altogether...
I'm typing this in a phone... Just to get you informed...

I really got bad luck but then again the pc is getting old...
So all project is dead until further notice...
I don't know if the hard drive is recoverable because it contain a ton of irreplaceable files...
R.I.P.
Jomarcenter Pc
If your computer doesn't turn on at all, that means your power supply died. Power supplies are sometimes on the bottom left of a computer.

Your hard drive should be fine, in any case. You can open up your case and take the hard drive out, which is pretty easy. You can put the hard drive in an external enclosure to use it as an external hard drive.
well I'm using a dell xps m1330 laptop... But I will try to take the drive Off the laptop and see if there a different... The pc is still working (the light on the power button is lit up) but cannot boot and making strange sound!!!
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: chewey on May 13, 2012, 08:38:20 AM
You'll have to try and describe to me the sounds your computer is making. There's lots of reasons why a computer won't boot and one of them is your hard drive is dead. If it is a clicking noise coming from the front of your computer, that is your hard drive telling you it isn't working anymore.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on May 13, 2012, 09:02:24 AM
You'll have to try and describe to me the sounds your computer is making. There's lots of reasons why a computer won't boot and one of them is your hard drive is dead. If it is a clicking noise coming from the front of your computer, that is your hard drive telling you it isn't working anymore.
It kind like a clicking and clanking noise I herd... But it is possible for data recovery?
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: chewey on May 13, 2012, 10:28:40 AM
It's possible, but it's really expensive. It wouldn't be worth it, really.

If your hard drive is busted, that really sucks.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Rief on May 13, 2012, 10:39:31 AM
First, you should open a Thread on it's own for your problem, cause it's somewhat off-topic

Second, do you know someone that can help you? (NOT your Neighbour who is a "PC-Specialist")
It's allways easier to help when you actually see the real thing.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on May 13, 2012, 12:24:52 PM
First, you should open a Thread on it's own for your problem, cause it's somewhat off-topic

Second, do you know someone that can help you? (NOT your Neighbour who is a "PC-Specialist")
It's allways easier to help when you actually see the real thing.
Well I know someone pc specialist and I can go to ayosdito(it like Craigslist but it been localised) website to find some great information for pc repair in the country...
But I will buy new pc instead because pc repair prices here it like buying a new pc I have to buy new ds system than sent it to repair here since the price of repair and buying new one are the same but I don't know why all repair prices are up now... (but to be safe also since most of hardware sold here have a high chance of using unauthorised hardware)
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Rief on May 13, 2012, 05:43:19 PM
Okay, no offense, but i read that three times and i'm confused, i can't make out what you wanted to say...
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Gracie on May 13, 2012, 07:42:54 PM
Okay, no offense, but i read that three times and i'm confused, i can't make out what you wanted to say...

He wants to get a new PC since repairing his PC would cost the same. He got his DS repaired and it cost the same as buying a new one.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on May 21, 2012, 02:30:43 PM
Got a new hard drive and in the next few day hopefully everything will turn back to normal the only thing to do is install the new hard drive and then install windows xp.
And do the following
-download all daily online backup
-E-mail the following people
 -enterbrain/degica to renew my license code...(help me with this...)
 -other activation code renew...
-download a lot of drive (printer drive[which hp printer drive not included with my printer], etc...)
-and restoring lost/replaceable program (unreplaceable file forever gone)
-and other thing...
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: mobychan on May 21, 2012, 02:40:35 PM
Hey, welcome back ^^
looks like most of what you have to do is not that hard
about enterbrain/degica, try it at the official forum (here (http://forums.rpgmakerweb.com)) or the official License Support (Here (http://www.rpgmakerweb.com/support/sales)) I'm sure they can help you ^^

I'd recommend installing the old programs when you need them, since you often don't need everything that was installed (After my last re-installation I only installed about 1/4 of all the programs I had before XD)

Did you try getting on your old harddrive using a working windows (kinda like an external drive) or ask someone skilled with computer to try rescuing your files?
maybe there's still some stuff that can be recovered ^^
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on May 24, 2012, 01:37:38 AM
i'm back running a new hard drive and also using windows 7... and also the activation code is reusable so i don't need to e-mail rpgmakerweb just to get it renew...
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Fall From Eden on May 24, 2012, 01:48:11 AM
i'm back running a new hard drive and also using windows 7... and also the activation code is reusable so i don't need to e-mail rpgmakerweb just to get it renew...

Glad to hear that it all worked out.

Now try to focus. :P
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on May 24, 2012, 01:50:45 AM
i'm back running a new hard drive and also using windows 7... and also the activation code is reusable so i don't need to e-mail rpgmakerweb just to get it renew...

Glad to hear that it all worked out.

Now try to focus. :P
and also i'm going to download some online backup file
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on May 25, 2012, 10:27:50 AM
hey when does future helper science and magic family reunion war/future helper family reunion war logo will be complete i been waiting for 2 week from now...

thank in advance
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: mobychan on May 25, 2012, 10:32:57 AM
Um, jomar?
1. Who do you mean?
2. Does he/she know what you want for the logo?
3. Why do you need it in 2 weeks? (It's something that can wait until the final release Oo) if you really need it that bad, why not finish it yourself?

And btw: how about changing your Gender back?
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on May 25, 2012, 11:09:35 AM
And btw: how about changing your Gender back?
thank i didn't notice that...
and also i just waiting for it to complete...
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: mobychan on May 25, 2012, 11:22:30 AM
Does the person you want to complete your logo know that he/she has to?
And does he/she know what he should do?
Otherwise there won't be anything completed Oo
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on May 25, 2012, 12:08:42 PM
Does the person you want to complete your logo know that he/she has to?
And does he/she know what he should do?
Otherwise there won't be anything completed Oo
well since May 07, 2012 countdown pm me what the title of the game is so he could add the name to the logo...
right not i still don't have any response from him since that pm
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: mobychan on May 25, 2012, 01:39:53 PM
Then pm him and ask if he'll still do it, maybe he doesn't want to anymore?
It's not his "duty" to do it.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Lethrface on May 25, 2012, 02:33:34 PM
gimp tutorials
http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/
photoshop tutorials
http://designrfix.com/resources/adobe-photoshop-tutorials-beginners-advanced-tips

You aren't waiting on anyone to commence work on your project but yourself.  Go and learn something and finish it yourself if you are having to wait.  Having to do things myself is how I learned everything I know in photoshop and whatnot.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on May 27, 2012, 09:39:23 AM
No the N-pad. I went a head and made it just in case.  :)

Spoiler for :
No credit required.  :)
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdesmond.imageshack.us%2FHimg856%2Fscaled.php%3Fserver%3D856%26amp%3Bfilename%3Dforjormacenter.png%26amp%3Bres%3Dlanding&hash=babdece81995b67495213bed66c0e0cd23ef9dbd)
when i try to edit the pic (so that to add some window or anything) it getting slow on gimp while other file is faster on gimp 2.8 it there any problem with gimp or there the problem with the photo the photo is fast on other programs except on gimp...
but i will try other photo-editing software if there any different...
but if it does gimp 2.8 is the problem and not 2.6 i will also try to find ver. 2.6 of gimp in the net...

edit: gimp 2.8 is the problem (they say it stable but i say is not stable) and can anyone of you give me link to older version of gimp because i check the site and i cannot find the older versions

edit: also i got a book on how to use photoshop (how to make a cool picture) but it can still be the same as gimp right...

edit: and making a wallpaper theme for windows 7 for future helper and the seven towers (wait.... why am i wasting time making windows 7 theme for my game)
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: mobychan on May 30, 2012, 07:05:15 AM
when i try to edit the pic (so that to add some window or anything) it getting slow on gimp while other file is faster on gimp 2.8 it there any problem with gimp or there the problem with the photo the photo is fast on other programs except on gimp...
but i will try other photo-editing software if there any different...
but if it does gimp 2.8 is the problem and not 2.6 i will also try to find ver. 2.6 of gimp in the net...

edit: gimp 2.8 is the problem (they say it stable but i say is not stable) and can anyone of you give me link to older version of gimp because i check the site and i cannot find the older versions
It doesn't matter what you say Oo
I already used 2.8 and it worked for me, do you have all System Requirements?
maybe try this portable version:
here (http://www.chip.de/downloads/GIMP-Portable_28034522.html)
or learn german, there are plenty downloads for the German 2.6 version XD

edit: also i got a book on how to use photoshop (how to make a cool picture) but it can still be the same as gimp right...
It's kinda the same, but some menu options have different names.
but if you combine it with an Online Tutorial it could work out, depending on how good you can focus and search for the options yourself.

edit: and making a wallpaper theme for windows 7 for future helper and the seven towers (wait.... why am i wasting time making windows 7 theme for my game)
No, just no!
Learn using gimp BEFORE you do something this big.
nobody will use it anyway, and what is with you game(s)?
I thought you want to take part in a contest?
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Capua Aelita on May 30, 2012, 03:44:14 PM
This thread has become nothing but a help section for a kid who doesn't know right from left.

What's happening with the game? :)
I don't care about any problems with your computer. :-X
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on June 07, 2012, 11:09:01 AM
because i have school (and also a ton of homeworks...) so the game will be slow to produce than normally would...
but i already perfect a eventing on elevators.. and other eventing so i will also make a tutorial on how to make one
screen shot:
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi861.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fab180%2Fjomarcenter%2Felevator001.png&hash=138491199353addcedffdfe095c3a21102445173)
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: skaraflame on June 08, 2012, 12:49:46 AM
1. Tutorial? Fair enough, I guess dance class's from a corpse would be fine.
2. Slower than normal? So the whole thing might be finished in TWO hours?

Joking aside, apparently you're making pretty nice progress. Good luck.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Lethrface on June 08, 2012, 01:27:11 AM
1. Tutorial? Fair enough, I guess dance class's from a corpse would be fine.
2. Slower than normal? So the whole thing might be finished in TWO hours?

Joking aside, apparently you're making pretty nice progress. Good luck.

Weren't you previously banned for something similar to that post?
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Jules on June 08, 2012, 01:45:16 AM
Your elevator seems really large.  Maybe it should be a smaller?  I have no constructive criticism here cause I know nothing about it. It just seems unnaturally big to me .-.   


I like your colors :)
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: DoctorTodd on June 08, 2012, 01:49:31 AM
It's a huge improvement over your previous maps. My only recommendation is to add a control panel on the wall rather then using a person. Also is it an industrial elevator or is it just for people? If it's industrial I would change the floors. The reason I'm asking is because it seems pretty large.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: mobychan on June 08, 2012, 07:01:43 AM
One thing to add:
It should say "Second Floor" or at least "2nd Floor" and "Cancel" (Capital letters)

You tend to forget capitalizing.
Other than that, good work, but instead of doing a tutorial, do your own stuff first, it's not that complicated to do such a "system".
Most people won't have problems doing something like that.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on June 08, 2012, 08:10:40 AM
It's a huge improvement over your previous maps. My only recommendation is to add a control panel on the wall rather then using a person. Also is it an industrial elevator or is it just for people? If it's industrial I would change the floors. The reason I'm asking is because it seems pretty large.
well i'm looking for some art for some maps link: http://rmrk.net/index.php/topic,46183.0.html here my request topic... but it just a eventing test, i always do this before eventing in the game itself so i don't care how big is the elevator since it a eventing test but i will make 3X3 elevator size for my game... but it a very good improvement... well i also play non-rpg maker games so i could get some ideas for my game...
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: skaraflame on June 08, 2012, 08:07:25 PM
1. Tutorial? Fair enough, I guess dance class's from a corpse would be fine.
2. Slower than normal? So the whole thing might be finished in TWO hours?

Joking aside, apparently you're making pretty nice progress. Good luck.

Weren't you previously banned for something similar to that post?
Yes, but this time I don't mean it. I remember being in Jomarcenter's place, so I wanna help the guy.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on June 09, 2012, 11:11:38 AM
Logo updates!
Here is the logo for Future helper science and magic : Family reunion war
Spoiler for Logo:
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi861.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fab180%2Fjomarcenter%2FfUTUREHELPERFAMILYREUNIONWARLOGO1NONCLEAR.png&hash=3cd7ab61b93208a3e382bafd212a9dda968c42b6)
logo by countdown, edited by jomarcenter
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: AbsoluteIce on June 09, 2012, 11:21:31 AM
Logo updates!
Here is the logo for Future helper science and magic : Family reunion war
Spoiler for Logo:
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi861.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fab180%2Fjomarcenter%2FfUTUREHELPERFAMILYREUNIONWARLOGO1NONCLEAR.png&hash=3cd7ab61b93208a3e382bafd212a9dda968c42b6)
logo by countdown, edited by jomarcenter
Wow.. that logo..
I'm sorry if i'm blunt, but it sucks.
Give me a few minutes, i'll make one for ya'.  :V
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on June 09, 2012, 11:24:16 AM
1. Tutorial? Fair enough, I guess dance class's from a corpse would be fine.
2. Slower than normal? So the whole thing might be finished in TWO hours?

Joking aside, apparently you're making pretty nice progress. Good luck.

Weren't you previously banned for something similar to that post?
Yes, but this time I don't mean it. I remember being in Jomarcenter's place, so I wanna help the guy.
Alright help accepted!
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on June 09, 2012, 11:25:04 AM
Logo updates!
Here is the logo for Future helper science and magic : Family reunion war
Spoiler for Logo:
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi861.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fab180%2Fjomarcenter%2FfUTUREHELPERFAMILYREUNIONWARLOGO1NONCLEAR.png&hash=3cd7ab61b93208a3e382bafd212a9dda968c42b6)
logo by countdown, edited by jomarcenter
Wow.. that logo..
I'm sorry if i'm blunt, but it sucks.
Give me a few minutes, i'll make one for ya'.  :V
Help accepted also...
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: AbsoluteIce on June 09, 2012, 12:19:45 PM
Sorry jomar, but my photoshop program has been jamming in the past few minutes.
I'll finish it tomorrow  :)
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on June 09, 2012, 12:23:09 PM
Sorry jomar, but my photoshop program has been jamming in the past few minutes.
I'll finish it tomorrow  :)
Alright. I will wait for it.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: AbsoluteIce on June 10, 2012, 03:04:55 AM
Here, Jomar.
Sorry about how it looks all messed up.
You have too much text in your logo that even I didn't know where to put
them anymore.  :o
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Countdown on June 10, 2012, 04:48:20 AM
Great adaptation to my logo. Better than I could've done. I'm not all that fancy with text. Nice job!
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Esmeralda on June 10, 2012, 09:36:20 AM
What the hell is that red mess at the bottom? Fix that immediately, it's abhorrent and unreadable. Aside from that I'm sure jomar will enjoy it greatly.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: AbsoluteIce on June 10, 2012, 09:51:38 AM
What the hell is that red mess at the bottom? Fix that immediately, it's abhorrent and unreadable. Aside from that I'm sure jomar will enjoy it greatly.
Okie dokie.
Just changed the text font, nothing much.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: firerain on June 10, 2012, 11:49:35 AM
what the fuck am i looking at, jesus christ

3 different fonts, the only half-decent one is the 'Science & Magic' one
obnoxious and eye-gougingly ugly "Family Reunion War", makes me want to vomit
awful black background with photoshop brushes on top

lose all of the shit I just listed, keep the beaker/castle logo thing because that's actually good, stick to one font, DON'T MAKE STUPID COLOUR CHOICES. LEARN COLOUR BLENDING.

edit: realized Countdown made the original logo with the beaker/black background. ask him for the beaker because everything else is god awful.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: AbsoluteIce on June 10, 2012, 12:28:38 PM
what the fuck am i looking at, jesus christ

3 different fonts, the only half-decent one is the 'Science & Magic' one
obnoxious and eye-gougingly ugly "Family Reunion War", makes me want to vomit
awful black background with photoshop brushes on top

lose all of the shit I just listed, keep the beaker/castle logo thing because that's actually good, stick to one font, DON'T MAKE STUPID COLOUR CHOICES. LEARN COLOUR BLENDING.

edit: realized Countdown made the original logo with the beaker/black background. ask him for the beaker because everything else is god awful.
Well, the logo is up to Jomar.
If he likes it, he can use it. If he doesn't, then he can scrap it off and ask another user to make another one if he wishes.
I'm not really the best at using the fonts correctly, or color blending, so i'm quite sorry if my creation isn't as professional
or as good as yours.  :)
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on June 10, 2012, 12:49:01 PM
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Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Capua Aelita on June 10, 2012, 01:04:49 PM
make your own logo then you little ingrate
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: mobychan on June 10, 2012, 01:25:17 PM
Jomar be grateful or do it yourself Oo
And after Firerain said it's not that good you decided it "doesn't meet your standard"!? Oo
At least it looks better than your version Oo
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: AbsoluteIce on June 10, 2012, 01:30:57 PM
Chuckling behind the computer screen here.  ;D
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Countdown on June 10, 2012, 08:24:02 PM
He's not getting any more help from me if he's gonna be ungrateful for my work.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on June 11, 2012, 12:03:03 PM
He's not getting any more help from me if he's gonna be ungrateful for my work.
i'm not talking about the logo you created i'm talking about the logo that AbsoluteIce created using your since the "family reunion war" part of it wasn't very good at all.. but i kinda really like what you did there.. well im grateful about it...
make your own logo then you little ingrate
i already made a logo using countdown logo... check the previous post...
Jomar be grateful or do it yourself Oo
And after Firerain said it's not that good you decided it "doesn't meet your standard"!? Oo
At least it looks better than your version Oo
well i'm really grateful on everyone help also... since i'm nice you know....
------------
i like what countdown created...
but the logo that AbsoluteIce created wasn't very good but the "science & magic" part of it was good and also the "future helper" text was also good but the problem is that the "family reunion war" part of the logo...
sorry about that. but i do love everyone helping with the game...
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: AbsoluteIce on June 11, 2012, 03:27:40 PM
He's not getting any more help from me if he's gonna be ungrateful for my work.
i'm not talking about the logo you created i'm talking about the logo that AbsoluteIce created using your since the "family reunion war" part of it wasn't very good at all.. but i kinda really like what you did there.. well im grateful about it...
make your own logo then you little ingrate
i already made a logo using countdown logo... check the previous post...
Jomar be grateful or do it yourself Oo
And after Firerain said it's not that good you decided it "doesn't meet your standard"!? Oo
At least it looks better than your version Oo
well i'm really grateful on everyone help also... since i'm nice you know....
------------
i like what countdown created...
but the logo that AbsoluteIce created wasn't very good but the "science & magic" part of it was good and also the "future helper" text was also good but the problem is that the "family reunion war" part of the logo...
sorry about that. but i do love everyone helping with the game...
Well, you could've said 'thanks', even if it wasn't appealing to you.
  :rconflicted:

Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Lethrface on June 11, 2012, 03:53:57 PM
He's not getting any more help from me if he's gonna be ungrateful for my work.
i'm not talking about the logo you created i'm talking about the logo that AbsoluteIce created using your since the "family reunion war" part of it wasn't very good at all.. but i kinda really like what you did there.. well im grateful about it...
make your own logo then you little ingrate
i already made a logo using countdown logo... check the previous post...
Jomar be grateful or do it yourself Oo
And after Firerain said it's not that good you decided it "doesn't meet your standard"!? Oo
At least it looks better than your version Oo
well i'm really grateful on everyone help also... since i'm nice you know....
------------
i like what countdown created...
but the logo that AbsoluteIce created wasn't very good but the "science & magic" part of it was good and also the "future helper" text was also good but the problem is that the "family reunion war" part of the logo...
sorry about that. but i do love everyone helping with the game...

You need to stop assuming everyone realizes you are thankful and start saying it.  When someone gives you something, you act like a child who just got handed a shiny toy and are so mesmerized by it that you don't say a word to anyone but "shiny..." lol

AbsoluteIce's logo was soooo much better looking than what you made and and yet you have the balls to criticize it saying it doesn't live up to your standards...and I'm assuming every piece of crap you post lives up to your standards?  It may have not been good but yours was just someone elses work slapped right into the middle of a boring white background with a radial gradient or maybe even a soft-edged eraser and some boring text.  It was boring and typical of the usual art you make.

You know, the best way to at least appear grateful is "thanks for your help but it isn't what I am looking for.  What I need is for it to..." then list everything you need from it like the size and all the technical details.  As it looks like now, Countdown doesn't even want to help you anymore so unless you manage to apologize or whatever it takes to get his help, good luck getting the help you NEED.  It's time to go look up tutorials on how to do art in gimp or photoshop.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: skaraflame on June 11, 2012, 10:56:03 PM
What "standards"? An actual decent logo doesn't meet up to your standards?
Ok, I eat McDonalds all the time because a gourmet steak dinner doesn't meet my standards. I play ET on the Atari because Skyrim doesn't meet my standards.

Be grateful for the help you get Jomar, it'll do you the world of good.
Take other people's ideas into account.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on June 12, 2012, 01:39:09 AM
i apologize for anything that happen in the past post... please accept the apology on it...
i'm totally sorry on what happen... really...
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Acolyte on June 12, 2012, 03:48:59 AM
Uh, absoluteice was the one that just decided he needed to improve his logo, which, while simple, at least had an easy to read and straight forward layout compared with that garbled mess. The point of a logo is to be easily readable and memorable, not to jam as many textures and fonts into it as possible. Why should he thank him for something he didn't want or like?

Also, why do you guys keep giving him life critique? He obviously didn't get it the first hundred times. Repeating yourselves ad nauseum isn't improving the situation. 
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Countdown on June 12, 2012, 06:48:01 AM
AbsoluteIce only made the text on the logo.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Lethrface on June 12, 2012, 06:51:01 AM
Uh, absoluteice was the one that just decided he needed to improve his logo, which, while simple, at least had an easy to read and straight forward layout compared with that garbled mess. The point of a logo is to be easily readable and memorable, not to jam as many textures and fonts into it as possible. Why should he thank him for something he didn't want or like?

Also, why do you guys keep giving him life critique? He obviously didn't get it the first hundred times. Repeating yourselves ad nauseum isn't improving the situation.

No offense but I don't care how you view what I said.  I was simply telling him he needed to be polite about it.  I don't care how he worded it just as long as he respected the effort given.  He obviously got the hint and apologized for it and that is acceptable in my eyes and I'm sure AbsoluteIce and anyone else who has helped him appreciate the fact that he goes so far as to apologize.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Holkeye on June 12, 2012, 06:15:09 PM
No offense to you Lethrface, but I'm pretty sure that none of it has to do with you, so it doesn't matter if something is "acceptable in your eyes," and nobody "needed to be" anything for you.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on June 13, 2012, 09:01:11 AM
need help:
alright i was thinking since i will totally focus on the story how about some mission for the game right...
you know since global network is still under work (and also practice on how to use ruby programming) so people can provide mission/quest ideas and i will check that mission/quest and try to make that mission for it just type some information in the form below if you want... and also locations for the game will announce soon..
Quote
name of mission/quest:
event occur:
location:
story:
difficult that you want:
name of NPC involve:
name of future helper game:
script (as in story script not code script.:
date mission will available for download(for only if the mission is separated from the game {great for crossover idea}):

just fill out the detail and i will check if it good or not in the game and please take note that future helper must still be original work... but unless if you want that mission to be crossover of a certain game...
and also this is another way to advertise your own game too if you going to make that mission a crossover version of your game (only the game you created. i will not accept crossover idea that wasn't copyrighted/created by you.)

and thank for helping with the future helper project..
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Countdown on June 13, 2012, 05:13:56 PM
Why don't you finish the main quest before adding side quests?
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Esmeralda on June 13, 2012, 05:51:34 PM
Why don't you finish the main quest before adding side quests?

That isn't a healthy way to develop a project. You should juggle work.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: mobychan on June 13, 2012, 06:23:12 PM
but he should at least have a part of his mainquest planned. but what he has up to now isn't even a second of something resembling a main quest...
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Countdown on June 13, 2012, 06:34:33 PM
Why don't you finish the main quest before adding side quests?

That isn't a healthy way to develop a project. You should juggle work.

Maybe that's why I lose motivation half-way through a game...
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on June 14, 2012, 08:47:40 AM
well i need to have some idea for side quest... and if anyone want to make a side quest for the game will be quote until the main quest is complete... so i won't be wasting anymore time thinking some side quest...
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on June 14, 2012, 12:21:45 PM
and also Countdown could you please make me a separate logo for the two tribe called science and magic...
you could just use that logo you made and separate the tower and the flask to make two logo that i can put in a map and also a special logo for the n-pad system and other related thing i will put it on...
and also make it in this size (using the engine block size)
3X3 block
5X5 block
2X2 block
and also the big size version of the logo...


thank in advance...
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Countdown on June 14, 2012, 04:27:39 PM
Wut?
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on June 15, 2012, 08:35:40 AM
Wut?
can you make a logo that separate this logo top and bottom to make a whole 2 new logo
you know separate the tower top and the flash at the button and fill the missing half to make it look like a complete tower and flask...
(https://rmrk.net/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=45560.0;attach=26841;image)
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on June 16, 2012, 07:04:26 AM
poster art for future helper science and magic family reunion war...
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffc07.deviantart.net%2Ffs70%2Ff%2F2012%2F168%2F6%2F1%2Ffuture_helper_science_and_magic_poster_by_jomarcenter-d53rqn1.png&hash=5d8c15fba7290941c642547f618b31a8349eb46d)
logo design by countdown...
poster design by jomarcenter...
look like i'm improving my art..
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: mobychan on June 16, 2012, 07:52:23 AM
Sorry jomar, but that looks horrible.
you can't read the stuff that's supposed to say family reunion war and before making something like this you should move on with actually MAKING your project.
seeing the stuff you made up to now it doesn't look like it will be coming soon anyway...
and whats that red blubb supposed to be Oo?
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: skaraflame on June 16, 2012, 01:25:03 PM
Sorry jomar, but that looks horrible.
you can't read the stuff that's supposed to say family reunion war and before making something like this you should move on with actually MAKING your project.
seeing the stuff you made up to now it doesn't look like it will be coming soon anyway...
and whats that red blubb supposed to be Oo?
Blurred writing, horrible colours, 2012? Teh fuck?
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Lethrface on June 16, 2012, 01:49:30 PM
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.meh.ro%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2011%2F01%2Fmeh.ro6390.jpg&hash=33f5e21c2fdd5e4464ec85db23f50b61e801ddf4)

I think I get what you are trying to do.  I am assuming you are attempting some sort of viral marketting type of situation where people are wondering "oh boy what is the name of this going to be?"  The problem is it really isn't all that good.  The static needs to go.  There are other things that need to be done but frankly I can't think of anything to make it better aside from starting over on it.  Plus I'm running off of little sleep so my creativity is thrown out the window and replaced with pessimism of how my day will go.  If I can think of something better for you by this evening, I'll let you know. 
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: AbsoluteIce on June 16, 2012, 01:54:34 PM
Sorry jomar, but that looks horrible.
you can't read the stuff that's supposed to say family reunion war and before making something like this you should move on with actually MAKING your project.
seeing the stuff you made up to now it doesn't look like it will be coming soon anyway...
and whats that red blubb supposed to be Oo?
I think it's supposed to be ; 'Can you stop the music'.   :P
But yeah, I agree. Make your project progress a bit further before you go
all into arts and crafts. 
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: skaraflame on June 16, 2012, 03:26:26 PM
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Frpgmaker.net%2Fmedia%2Fcontent%2Fusers%2F22422%2Flocker%2FFuture_tower.PNG&hash=8ed11ddf58a66443d6c875fd0dea4a760f8875e5)
Leaked screenshot. I don't know what's going on...
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Esmeralda on June 16, 2012, 04:39:32 PM
I'm more stoked than ever, honestly! Do we have a release date?
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: firerain on June 16, 2012, 06:24:41 PM
dude that crayon tower is awesome
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: skaraflame on June 16, 2012, 06:34:41 PM
I'm more stoked than ever, honestly! Do we have a release date?
Hopefully not. He's making the sequel, and planning the third game.

Firerain, I agree, it only makes me want to shoot myself twice.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Esmeralda on June 16, 2012, 07:40:19 PM
Hopefully not? You're not even interested in this? It seems genuinely intriguing. I signed up for the beta ages ago but he never sent me anything to playtest.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: skaraflame on June 16, 2012, 09:47:20 PM
Hopefully not? You're not even interested in this? It seems genuinely intriguing. I signed up for the beta ages ago but he never sent me anything to playtest.
No, I can't say I am. I'm interest in Vacant Sky Awakening and the Zelda Project Engine. I only show interest in games developed by experienced people who know what they're doing. Jomar is making three games at once when he downloaded Ace half way through the last GIAW and started making a full game with the ambition of making the next Aveyond.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Esmeralda on June 17, 2012, 09:09:42 AM
I think you're playing RPG Maker games for the wrong reason
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Arrow on June 17, 2012, 09:15:57 AM
To my knowledge, this game is still all about one man's quest to successfully take a piss in a church pew.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Lethrface on June 17, 2012, 12:39:10 PM
I think you're playing RPG Maker games for the wrong reason

Is there a right reason to play them?
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: skaraflame on June 17, 2012, 12:44:12 PM
I think you're playing RPG Maker games for the wrong reason
What the merry fuck does that even mean?
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: AbsoluteIce on June 17, 2012, 12:55:03 PM
Why can't we live in peace, and ignore this thread if people don't like it?
 :minibaww:
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: skaraflame on June 17, 2012, 01:03:18 PM
Why can't we live in peace, and ignore this thread if people don't like it?
 :minibaww:
To be fair we're not slamming this game as much...
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Esmeralda on June 17, 2012, 01:04:13 PM
I think you're playing RPG Maker games for the wrong reason

Is there a right reason to play them?

Nope
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on June 17, 2012, 01:40:15 PM
Hopefully not? You're not even interested in this? It seems genuinely intriguing. I signed up for the beta ages ago but he never sent me anything to playtest.
your still register as other name in the beta test list sorry.. didn't notice about it... but if you happen change the public name just pm me to let me know.. so i can change the list and sent you the beta file sorry for that...

but i have plans to released private beta test soon with access password included...
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on June 29, 2012, 01:54:21 PM
back from this forum inactively and here is some of the updates during production.
first of all i recently notice of people commenting about game made from rpg maker newbies (including me) in rpgmaker.net , which i take action against it by posting this blog post.
http://rpgmaker.net/games/4095/blog/7736/
after that situation subside a lot of people learn the hard way and  starting supporting the game.

second the future helper science and magic family reunion war game page is upon rpgmaker.net
http://rpgmaker.net/games/4095/

third the future helper science and magic family reunion war banner is also up
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Frpgmaker.net%2Fmedia%2Fcontent%2Fgames%2F4095%2Fscreenshots%2FFuture_helper_scince_and_magic_banner.png&hash=374c5ebbabcbec477feaa4a54c0876fb8c6e16fc)

and finally the people who help with the project will be credit accordingly in the game and also will received beta test file when it released

thank you very much for your patient and understanding.
-jomarcenter
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: jomarcenter on October 12, 2012, 02:44:36 PM
Let's pause on "the future helper series" and focus on a Different game, but I'm trying to show it to you. But ended up deleted for no reason. But this one is still up http://jomarcenter.deviantart.com/art/UNKNOWN-FILE-DATABASE-331993575 I don't know why?
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: yuyu! on October 13, 2012, 02:04:30 AM
Let's pause on "the future helper series" and focus on a Different game, but I'm trying to show it to you. But ended up deleted for no reason. But this one is still up http://jomarcenter.deviantart.com/art/UNKNOWN-FILE-DATABASE-331993575 I don't know why?

I can't
-pfft-
understand
-pfft-
your accent
-pfft-
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Gracie on October 13, 2012, 07:59:33 PM
jesus christ is this thread really still going
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: skaraflame on October 14, 2012, 01:03:04 AM
jesus christ is this thread really still going
Apparently >.<
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Dr. Mc on October 14, 2012, 03:41:01 AM
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi113.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fn224%2Fmangamariah%2Fextreme_face_zps77b7d3d9.gif&hash=e7773833e98aa33302ebdc3c85c3e49e92644666)
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: yuyu! on October 14, 2012, 03:43:30 AM
(https://rmrk.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi113.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fn224%2Fmangamariah%2Fwat_zps42ba7eb4.gif&hash=2feace7a968e4db77b893b0586bffc3c7e9d4170)
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: skaraflame on October 14, 2012, 02:01:33 PM
I am the cat, the admins are the bed cover, the woman is Jomar
(https://i.chzbgr.com/completestore/12/10/10/SuUMXetVmUymQW9ALBdCkQ2.gif)
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: Acolyte on October 15, 2012, 01:32:24 AM
So you sleep with Jomar and you are his animal slave. Gotcha.
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: D&P3 on October 15, 2012, 02:04:12 AM
Let's pause on "the future helper series" and focus on a Different game, but I'm trying to show it to you. But ended up deleted for no reason. But this one is still up http://jomarcenter.deviantart.com/art/UNKNOWN-FILE-DATABASE-331993575 I don't know why?
I paused for breath so many times whilst reading that, it's not even funny!

I am the cat, the admins are the bed cover, the woman is Jomar.
So Jomar has the ability to pat you on the back and then throw you away?
I wonder... are you his prison buddy?
Title: Re: the future helper series official topic
Post by: skaraflame on October 15, 2012, 02:09:11 AM
Let's pause on "the future helper series" and focus on a Different game, but I'm trying to show it to you. But ended up deleted for no reason. But this one is still up http://jomarcenter.deviantart.com/art/UNKNOWN-FILE-DATABASE-331993575 I don't know why?
I paused for breath so many times whilst reading that, it's not even funny!

I am the cat, the admins are the bed cover, the woman is Jomar.
So Jomar has the ability to pat you on the back and then throw you away?
I wonder... are you his prison buddy?
...Yes