RE: All of the nominations

I'm sure this post will probably get the brunt of bad comments and most likely end up getting locked, sent to the sewers, or just outright deleted, but I eel it needs to be said;

I have only been active here this past year or so, with a little bit from the end of last year, so, I can not say this is how it has always been, but I see the same people getting nominated for just about everything, both this year and last, and I'm sure if I found and perused through past nominations, I would find the same to be in true in past years. By no means do I think I am deserving of outright winning half of the categories; my mapping is not the best, scripting skills are about mediocre, some of my ideas don't even come close to others (I'm looking at Luvia Tales here...   =P ), but, it would be nice to see some of us little people at least nominated for something here or there, or hell, make a new category for 'members that show potential in a game idea' or something that sounds alot better than that, since I just kinda  came up with it while typing. Or, what about just an informal recognition of those who have contributed to the site in a significant way? Normally I'm not one to make a fuss about such things, but, I can say I got one acknowledgement by Roph for donating to the site which (depending on where you're hosted Roph) should have been enough to cover a month, if not two, of RMRK staying alive. It's cool acus my names all pink and stuff now, so, that neat, and I like the fact that I may have helped the site in a more relevant way than my scripts ever could, but, I dunno, I just feel like it's all of the people in "the club" that are being nominated, when some others could be as well (and no, this doesn't just refer to me, there's a couple others I have yet to see whom have impressed me over the years), and before anyone says it, yeah, I know I can go ahead and nominate them myself, and I will, either tonight or tomorrow morning, but I just thought it was a valid point to bring up (also, I just read through the 'most mature member' nominations, and that may have prompted me to handle this in a mature manner and bring it up as an issue, as an adult would, instead of moping and yelling about it in secret boards or something).


That's all, you can commence with the commentary =p

I'm sure a lot of the "little people" of RMRK would qualify for the Kindest Member award, for example. It's kind of hard to nominate people when you don't know them, though. Most of us regulars don't go into the RPG Maker sections, and they don't go outside of them. How do you nominate a person when you've never seen them even post?

Plus award nominations are open to everyone. If they care at all, they're free to nominate other lesser known members. But let's be realistic here, the RMRK Awards are and always have been just a glorified popularity contest. So yes, it mostly is just members in "the club" being nominated, but that's because we don't know other members to nominate.

Actually screw that, I stand by our nominations. Some random guy might be funny, but if he only posted five times the whole year, no one is even going to remember him. But when it comes down to the categories that are about talent, we very regularly nominate people that aren't high posters. Best Writer just means look in the Librarium. If you didn't post something there, you won't be nominated. It's as simple as that.

Also this was the wrong place to post this.

Also you do realize how silly and childish it is to post a thread that basically says "I should be nominated for more awards", right?

And to be fair let's look at your nominations so far? you've consistently just nominated veterans or people who were already nominated. I really just seems like you're upset no one nominated you for that XPAce thing you kept shoehorning into posts.

gib attenon pls

aaaaaa

This is so ridiculous

I have here a list of everyone and everything you've nominated as of today with Veterans and Previously Nominated  non veteran members and projects crossed out.

Joy
Zexion
Roph
Phoenix Fire
yuyu
modern
sophist
tSwitch
Roph again
Halo
M00s
yuyu
sophist again
tSwitch again
m00s again
Abigaila
Halo again
M00s 3rd nomination
tSwitch 3rd nomination
Lluvia Tales
YuYu again
Aco
Roph 3rd nomination
IRock (sic)



The court will note that only one person on this list is not crossed out.

Spoiler for:

You are clearly badgering the defendant, also you are leading the witnesses. Libel and stuff.
I say we let them go easy, 2 months execution.

I think we can all see I have the decisive evidence that shows the Defendant is just as complacent in the way the awards work as the rest of us.

I completely agree. There are some of us newer members who are worthy of being nominated and are being overlooked by judgemental assholes for the way we act/dress and our join date. Not saying I should be, but I don't see why not...

Wow, I really didn't stop to think of people like you. 
I say we nominated Dr.Cocaine Coke Can for best newbie.

I don't see anything wrong with that...

Who here agrees?

Sure! why the fuck not?

I kinda feel that the people nominated so far all really deserve it tbh.

Zexion best sorta newbie 2014

Spoiler for:

but not really because you joined in 2011 even if most of your posts are from this year.

Lol

Strike pointed out that you've been nominating people who were already nominated. Which is silly. Not even because it's contradictory to what you were saying in your original post, but because those nominations are basically useless. That's just not how nominations work. Wait until the voting threads are up; that's when it will be relevant to do so.

I vote that we change up "best newbie". We've got a lot of really cool members (like Zexion and flapbat) that joined awhile ago, but only recently became very active. I think that should count as a newbie. ;]



I argue that the nominations are pretty fair. A lot of the veterans voted up the little guys on the RPG maker (or other game maker) awards. ;o

Like halo said, there isn't much else that we know about them yet. Although I do agree that a little recognition can't hurt, I think situations like this will occur no matter where you go. Rmrk is a lot like life (albeit a pretty weird and nightmarish-ly awesome life). It's hard to stand out, but you really can if you want to and go about it in the right way.

but I do want to at least make an attempt at funniest member, so I'd better post something stupid

uhhhhh

pen15 ROFL

damn...but now I can't win most mature

North 1993 Round

I understand your concern Phoenixfire, but you have basically come full circle on your own topic. As everyone else has said, the nominations are A: Open to all people to nominate anyone at all save for certain restrictions, B: also open to you as well so you have the freedom to vote outside "The Club" or whatever you think the regular members are cliquing about, and C: Not representative of the final voting process. I try and go out of my way to observe people's projects, but four or five posts and nothing else outside of the RM section does not qualify someone for a social award unless they were strikingly memorable in the eyes of the people who would nominate them.

We don't just circlejerk nominate each other, it's because the people being nominated are the only active members on the site. I feel as though you, Phoenixfire, are more concerned with your own position in the process to the point of having to make a thread to show how we aren't nominating for inactive or highly irregular members. I don't mean to belittle your concern with the situation, but what are we supposed to do about it? Like Halo said, we nominate the people we know not because they're veterans, but because they are the people that we believe are most deserving of the award and  the most regular in nature. We are all free to nominate whomever we desire because of our own free will. There is no changing that. If you truly feel like the best people to win the awards are people who aren't veterans, then you should vote for them. Why? Because it is your free will.

If you feel like this isn't enough to quell your concern then you can feel free to PM me on the forums and we can try to hammer it out.

The Honorable Sophist has spoken. I believe I have enough evidence to deliver a verdict.

ok now where's the lobster guy ??

Oh, silly me. We can't end court without bringing in the dancing lobsters.

ok now we're all set B) thanks aco!

whatever happened to the dancing lobsters guy?

why the hell do i have so many ladyba the hell?

asdfghjkl;

And there's the shitstorm I expected.

Yeah, there's a valid point in there made by Halo, YuYu and Sophist, but the fact remains, and I don't think I'm the only one that feels that it's a little daunting to try to make yourself known on here when it seems to be the group of members who have been here for a while, and everyone else. It's not impossible to get noticed, no. As to XPAce, I don't really care if anyone took interest; it wasn't originally my project, and I don't expect it to go to mucg further; hell, I may end up just shutting it all down, but I was trying to help out an acquaintance from Chaos Project who started it, who couldn't keep it hosted and running any longer. I don't think I need to be nominated on anything either really; I haven't done a whole lot to be recognized, at least in the scope of the awards; I have a project going on with a full team of people, but it's not really that far along, and nothing to show for it currently. Maybe next year that'll come into play, but not now, no. I donated to server costs, but there's no award for that here. All in all, I have had an unremarkable existence on this site, and like Zexion, although I registered years ago, I've only really been active this year.

This was just kind of a cloak statement covering things I've been noticing for a while, and I simply needed to express my thoughts on it.

Also, correction, I never nominated myself for any of the awards, so, you can strike that from the record book, uhh... Strike..

Another comment here, I would not qualify this as Narcissism, since I'm in no way putting myself above anyone else on here, so my nomination for that award, I respectfully decline.

Ok, since we went over this in another thread: There is no way we can just 'make' you known or make it less daunting to be included. We are all friends, and we all welcome new people who are willing to post more and include themselves. This isn't some damn high school. Just post more about stuff, in all the threads, instead of posting on how you feel you aren't included.

Also, correction, I never nominated myself for any of the awards, so, you can strike that from the record book, uhh... Strike..

Roph - I have his dump account bookmarked  >.>


And self, because it's for a pirate award, and pirates don't have to follow the rules =p (plus I have a collection of stuff I'm willing to share...)

Joke or not, that's a self nomination.

That said, the pirate award isn't for willingness to share if asked, it's about who puts up stuff for sharing without being asked. what are we supposed to do just ask you for random uploads?

It's really telling that you refer to this as a shitstorm when it totally isn't. At worst I'd say we're messing with you. And anski is being 100% serious and professional as a forum admin.

You overreact and tend to word your posts in a way that seems like you're upset that senpai won't notice you.

Ok, since we went over this in another thread: There is no way we can just 'make' you known or make it less daunting to be included. We are all friends, and we all welcome new people who are willing to post more and include themselves. This isn't some damn high school. Just post more about stuff, in all the threads, instead of posting on how you feel you aren't included.

This 100%. It's not like if someone new or someone who hasn't posted much before starts posting in threads or talking to us in IRC we're going to treat them like the nerd who sits down at the same table as the cheerleaders and football players at lunch. Zexion is a member that's been around a while that, at least as far as I know, isn't super active and involved in conversation, but he joined IRC last night for a little bit and he seems like a pretty cool guy. No one told him to go away because he's not a veteran or anything like that, and no one would.

You need to understand that we were all new at some point and eventually found ourselves a place in the community, many of us when the community actually was sort of noninclusive and cliquey.

Came in here not expecting a shitstorm. Not surprisingly none was found. Instead I enjoyed the casual awesomeness. Thanks for making me feel right at home. I love you all <3

@Fiery bird of fire:
Don't let the sorrows of life get to you. Neither the greater nor the lesser.
As for RMRK? Try to enjoy. My advice is not to try too hard to gain recognition. Usually the people I see trying purely to gain that fails. Focusing actual contents or nice and fun talk seems usually to be more effective, and it's more fun for both parties to boot.

*hugs*
 - Zeriab

*hugs Zeriab* ;o;