A simple age-old Debate; Quantity vs Quality.

Quantity vs Quality-excluding energy needed.

Quality
Most people wants our work is always of the best quality, and says quantity is less important than quality.
"Quality wins to quantity."
One God wins a war with a million soldiers.
Or so they say.

Quantity
Quantity has its on quality.
"Safety in Numbers apply."
We depend on each other to enchance our work.

The Question

Which is better?
Quantity or Quality?

They both are equally important.

If you have enough quantity of water, buts in filled with Vibrio Cholerae(the virus that causes Cholera, i know) then it sucks.
If you have pure water, but just a tiny droplet, the vibrio cholerae will probably eat it so there;s no use.


Need to have co-ordination, like peanut butter and jelly.

quantity over quality

buy low sell high

But, if the price difference(quality) is low; it would be better of to sell a small amount of high-priced products.

It's entirely dependent on the subject matter. When it comes to things like friends, quality is way over quantity. However, with something like money no one gives a damn if the dollar bill looks pretty.

Ah, but 1 kg of gold is better than 20 thousand dollar bills. I would take quality over quantity any day.

Depends on what your talking about, if say your on about a fight/war type scenario then i would say quantity, because you could have a bunch of excellent fighters, but say you had 10 awesome fighters against 70, then its obvious the one with 10 is gonna lose, so quantity in that situation.

Where as work, its quality.

So like nightwolf said, both are just as important

Ah, but 1 kg of gold is better than 20 thousand dollar bills. I would take quality over quantity any day.

My post was referring to dollar bills, not gold.

say you had 10 awesome fighters against 70, then its obvious the one with 5 is gonna lose

... ?_?

Well yeah, but in terms of what the dollar bill represents (i.e. a monetary value), gold is of higher quality (as in gold represents a monetary value which is higher then the dollar bill). I merely expanded your example from the physical condition of the dollar to the actual worth of the dollar bill.

However, quantity has its own quality, so when the amount reaches a certain number it's better than choosing quality.

For example, 1 kg gold is lower than 1 trillion US dollars.

Ah, but 1 kg of gold is better than 20 thousand dollar bills. I would take quality over quantity any day.

My post was referring to dollar bills, not gold.

say you had 10 awesome fighters against 70, then its obvious the one with 5 is gonna lose

... ?_?

I was tired, leave me alone

Quantity strongly depends on HOW MUCH.

It is possible to reach a point when Quantity beats Quality in arguably any situation.

If 10 noobs can't beat you in Halo 3,,then 20 noobs will,,etc

There are Billions of Humans but only a fraction are worth the air they breath.

But at the same time they make great cannon fodder in wars and do all the mundane jobs most wouldn't do.

I would say Quality over Quantity...

But I think one day both will apply once we have robots doing the Mundane jobs we can shoot those that are scummers...LOL

LoL,,they don't deserve the air they breath,,ahahahaha,,agreed.

LoL,,here is a good example:

No matter how much salt water,,bad quality water,,you drink,,you are still going to kick the bucket.
Good quality fresh water FTW!!!

Quantity strongly depends on HOW MUCH.

It is possible to reach a point when Quantity beats Quality in arguably any situation.

If 10 noobs can't beat you in Halo 3,,then 20 noobs will,,etc

What about love? Does quantity ever surpass quality in that situation?

What about love? Does quantity ever surpass quality in that situation?

That's for a woman to decide.  Besides,,most of them value foreplay(quantity,,the more foreplay,,the better) more than the climax (quality).
-that's accoring to Playboy.

And can quality surpass a more powerful quantity when it reaches a certain quality?

There are Billions of Humans but only a fraction are worth the air they breath.

But at the same time they make great cannon fodder in wars and do all the mundane jobs most wouldn't do.

I would say Quality over Quantity...

But I think one day both will apply once we have robots doing the Mundane jobs we can shoot those that are scummers...LOL

The air they breath? The air they breh-th?
You mean breathe. Breathe = breeeeeeeeeeeeth

Also quality > quantity. Just look at the Police Academy movies.

Why is it that love = sex for you children. -_________-

An equal balance of quality and quantity, duh ~_~

but to answer the question~

There are Billions of Humans but only a fraction are worth the air they breath.

I would say Quality over Quantity...

What about love? Does quantity ever surpass quality in that situation?

That's for a woman to decide.  Besides,,most of them value foreplay(quantity,,the more foreplay,,the better) more than the climax (quality).
-that's accoring to Playboy.

I said love, you dope. Not sex.

Love does not equal Sex
Sex = AIDs/Kids/STDs
Love= Marriage then sex

Oh and Quality>Quantity

A few good men can win a war, but many citizens with no heart will run

Staying left to fight a war is just stupidity too imo. Let them rape your land. Go leech theirs. It's hard to judge quality and quantity in war since there is no such thing as a terminator or sth that is better than anyone else. If you have Parkinsons then you shouldn't be in the army.

In MATH,,quantity will win out.  Here is the proof:

1) Let GOD represent the ultimate quality
2) Let PERSON represent (1/1,000,000)th quality of god,,or PERSON = (1/1,000,000) * GOD = GOD / 1,000,000

Note that:

GOD = 1,000,000 * PERSON


STEP 1:

Now let's assume that we have 1,000,000 PERSON,,then:

1,000,000 * PERSON = (GOD / 1,000,000) + (GOD / 1,000,000) + ... +  (GOD / 1,000,000)            [for a total of 1,000,000 times]

On the left side we know that GOD = 1,000,000 * PERSON
On the right side,,we can take 1/1,000,000 out to get

GOD = 1/1,000,000 (GOD + GOD + ... + GOD)                [GOD repeates 1,000,000 times]

GOD = 1/1000,000 (1,000,000 * GOD)

GOD = GOD         [our computations work out correct]



STEP 2:

Since GOD = 1,000,000 PERSONS

What happens if we have 2,000,000 PERSONS?  Then the ultimate quality, aka GOD is LESS than 2,000,000 * PERSONS


Of course the argument against this is:
if GOD is supposed to be the ulimate quality,,then it can't equal PERSON / 1,000,000



All in all,,QUALITY = QUANTITY

Woohoo,,did anyone actually follow the proof? LoL,,didn't think so....

That might be the dumbest and most irrational post I've seen in a while. You can't equate anything to God because there isn't even proof the dude exists (which would make God = 0 if he doesn't exist and therefore destroy your theory, by the way).

The flaw in the proof is that it is circular and assumes God is equal to 1 000 000 people in order to prove that God is equal to 1 000 000 people. It isn't a proof at all, just a long, redundant way of stating an assumption.

The other flaw with the proof is that it is trying to prove a global statement by a specific example. For instance, I could say:

For all n, n + 1 = 2. Take the case n = 1:

n + 1 = 1 + 1 = 2. QED.

If you assume that GOD is the ultimate quality and is worth 1,000,000 people,,then 2,000,000 people provite a better quality than GOD

Technically,,you can always find a quantity that will be EQUAL or that will EXCEED the given quality.

GOD is flawless and immortal.
IF you want to put god in equation, it would equal OO

God was just an example to show the ULTIMATE level of quality

IF you want to put god in equation, it would equal OO

There are different levels of infinity.

Some are higher than others,,for example,,

SET of INTEGERS = SET of RATIONAL numbers
SET of IRRATIONAL numbers > SET of INTEGERS

If you assume that GOD is the ultimate quality and is worth 1,000,000 people,,then 2,000,000 people provite a better quality than GOD

Technically,,you can always find a quantity that will be EQUAL or that will EXCEED the given quality.

But in your example, quantity doesn't exceed quality; it just exceeds another quantity. Trying to prove a point with baseless assumptions will get you nowhere.

Yeah, what I was saying was that all you did in your example was you defined GOD in terms of PEOPLE. You said GOD equals 1 000 000 people. 1 000 001 > 1 000 000, therefore quantity > quality. Disregarding the fact that you are trying to prove something by example, it's not a proof because you assume what you are trying to prove, and then saying. I.e. you assume that GOD is less than a set number of people, and then you 'prove' that a set amount of people are greater then GOD.

It is essentially equivalent to this proof:

Theorem: x = 2
Assuming x is an integer strictly greater then 1 and strictly less then 3, x is equal to 2.

Your assume what you are trying to prove.

You cannot assume the ultimate quality is equal to a quantity of less valuable quality, simply because you are assuming the result of your 'proof'. In other words, you are assuming that quantity is greater then quality in order to prove that quantity is greater then quality. It is a circular argument.

you are assuming that quantity is greater then quality in order to prove that quantity is greater then quality. It is a circular argument.

lol the debate is really on now,,

Try to make the same argument where quality is greater than quantity.

Alright, assume the ultimate quality to be of greater value then any multiple of lesser quality objects. Therefore quality > quantity.

That's the short version. If you want me to frame it as you did:

In MATH,,quality will win out.  Here is the proof:

1) Let PERSON < GOD
2) Let GOD = PERSON*k + 1, where k is any integer from 0...?, representing any number of people in that range

Now let's assume that we have 1,000,000 PERSON,,then:

Total value of PERSONS = 1 000 000
God = PERSON * 1 000 000 + 1

The value of GOD is 1 000 001

1 000 001 > 1 000 000

Therefore, quality > quantity. Our equations work out.


And this isn't a debate. It's an irrefutable fact that your 'mathematical' proof is false, and you cannot debate facts.

ah,,the old infinity + 1 trick

so technically I think we arrived at this conclusion

What is better:

n things of 1 quality,,or 1 thing of n quality

ah,,the old infinity + 1 trick

so technically I think we arrived at this conclusion

What is better:

n things of 1 quality,,or 1 thing of n quality

And that brings us full circle: It depends on the situation.

ah,,the old infinity + 1 trick

so technically I think we arrived at this conclusion

What is better:

n things of 1 quality,,or 1 thing of n quality

And that brings us full circle: It depends on the situation.

AAAAwwwww,,does it mean we have to start all over?

It seems we have reached an impact. True, the quality and quality is depending the situation.
And now we add another equation to the debate :

The try factor-Energy needed.

Is it more enery-consuming to work for a higher quality or a higher quantity; and which will pay off more than another?

...

It depends on the situation. <_<

Zypher is dead on. It depends on the situation.

Zypher is dead on. It depends on the situation.

I also kinda lost the whole debate right when the algebra started.

But anyway, a billion against one, pretty obvious who will lose right? But then the battle of thermolpai (the battle 300 is based off of) 300 Spartans vs. 1000(?) Persians. Who won there? Anyway, it definetly depends on the situation.

The Persians won.

In any case, I prefer quality in pretty much any situation. Where one thing of quality is of equal or even slightly less worth to multiple things of a lower quality, I would pretty much always go with the one thing of quality. For instance, I would rather have one car that went 10 miles/gallon then 10 cars that went 1 miles / gallon.

Okay, Debate Finished.