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Well you don't have to get all personal, PMing threats about ass kicking.  ;8
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alright alot of the stuff u say is opinionated because its feedback witch is generaly opinons on how something is so the only thing u guys got anal over was that we had corperation in our name so really were not doing nething wrong u r just giving us advise on how to make our site look better in your eyes but it is our desicion to not take ur advise and we can say how we feel about some of the comments u have about it thats how these things go.
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All of your arguments are opinionated and speculative with no truth



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You force people to wait

 - Flash is larger, ergo it takes longer? Plus who really likes splash pages or lame unskippable flash intros?

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Destroy accessibility

I can't copy, screen read or change font sizes with your text. I can't use my back / forward buttons to navigate back and forth between your pages. I can't bookmark any particular page.

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and make your content invisible to any search engine worth caring about.

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As many of you already know, Flash is inherently a visual medium, and Googlebot doesn't have eyes.

That's outdated, some make some effort but with no way of figuring out structure, it fails.

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Why does it say RMRK is an affiliate? (you spelt it wrong)

How is this not true? You're still doing it even now. Are you trying to appear affiliated with this place in order to catch members or something? "Oh look, they're affiliated with RMRK! I'm gonna check this place out then!"

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Flash website designs are quite unnecessary, most of the time.  Honestly, I don't see why a flash website is needed here.

The text is a bit too small, and the quality of the logo isn't good.  I see resolution problems.  Content is fine.  You describe each game, offer screenshots, etc.  I would just use text formatting a little more to my advantage, making the content more readable, easier to the eyes.  For titles, characters' names, etc. use bolds, or bigger text.  It's your choice.  But separate headlines from actual content.  Highlight important parts, and so on.

Any half-decent experienced web designer will tell you this. You're using flash for something you could just use normal HTML for: display text and images.

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But you're not a fucking company, for god's sake, when will people get it?

I can't just waltz around Proclaiming RMRK is "owned" by Crankeyed Internet Media Services LLC or some other bullshit, it doesn't work like that. You go through a legal process of registration.

You obviously have not, and it just makes makes you look stupid and like a kid trying to fruad people into thinking you're actually some real "company" or something. It does the opposite of making you look "professional".

Do you even know what a Corporation is?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate%20law
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporation

Notice how you danced around this and didn't really respond directly to it:

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Were are a small company, group, band of five people, corporation, whatever

You aren't a Company, Corporation (do you even know what corporation means? you never answered) LLC, GmbH or any of the others without going through the appropriate legal process and registration. Which means you're lying. And why would anybody use such a thing in their name? Answer is easy; there's countless other people before you that have done exactly the same thing: to try and appear as if they really ARE one in the hope that people will fall for it and so that hopefully people will want to work on their game or visit their site or post on their forums.

Except, to ANYONE who knows even a little about it, you just [edit] well, I mentioned previously:
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You obviously have not, and it just makes makes you look stupid and like a kid trying to fruad people into thinking you're actually some real "company" or something. It does the opposite of making you look "professional"
« Last Edit: August 07, 2007, 12:11:18 AM by Roph »

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No threats were made, and since you feel it is a good idea to make underhanded comments regarding private messages, baselessly in fact, I feel it is necessary to share your pms.

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But you're not a fucking company, for god's sake, when will people get it?

I can't just waltz around Proclaiming RMRK is "owned" by Crankeyed Internet Media Services LLC or some other bullshit, it doesn't work like that. You go through a legal process of registration.

You obviously have not, and it just makes makes you look stupid and like a kid trying to fruad people into thinking you're actually some real "company" or something. It does the opposite of making you look "professional".

Do you even know what a Corporation is?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate%20law
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporation



     ...who here isn't being calm? I mean, outside of those "cornered animals" who felt ranting to be necessary? Nothing to get so worked up over, btw. We're just telling it like it is. Reasonable does not necessarily mean "best fits in with plans already in place".


Um, he didn't look very calm to me . . . . and you both need to move on.

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No, he was calm. Using the f word or an exclamation point does not equate to "not calm". And you don't move on in a topic unless you were on about something that off-topic in the first place, or you off-topic.

Furthermore, where do you think you get off telling me what I need to do? I'm not angry, but lemme just tell you something, that's instant begging-for-asskick in the real world, regardless of where you are.

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Now your the one who doesn't sound calm. I don't know about anybody who threatens people while maintaining passive emotions.

Isn't the purpose of the ! used to add emotion? Here:

"An exclamation mark or exclamation point is a punctuation mark: ! It is usually used after an interjection or exclamation to indicate strong feeling or high volume, and generally marks the end of a sentence. A sentence ending in an exclamation mark is either an actual exclamation ("Wow!", "Boo!"), a command ("Stop!"), or is intended to be astonishing in some way ("They were the footprints of a gigantic hound!")."

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It's meant to show strong emotion, not volume. I'm still calm, and that wasn't a threat, which is what you misinterpreted it as. I was warning you that, if you said that to anyone at school, or work, or wherever, you will only serve to further enrage them, and this will often times lead to physical contact of a damaging kind. That's basic psychological deduction.

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... I don't know whats happened to you Arrow. I used to like you. And it's people like you why Yukimora, KaireiIsOrange, and I are quitting RMRK.

And just after that:

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Uh, sure. Get all technical and trying to outwit me doesn't change the fact what you said is that I "deserve an asskicking".

     So there you are, genius. You tried to make me look like a jerk, and now you're the jerk. I made no threats whatsoever, which is a concept that, as your latest pm has shown, you fail to comprehend.

Also, when did Kairei ever say she was leaving?

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You're not seeing it the way you should:  as constructive criticism that may help you and your team improve and be more professional.

And sorry, but I do have truth in what I say.  It is not something I invented.  It is something most web designers with at least some basic knowledge on what design is supposed to be about, and on creating user-friendly websites and web applications (for developers here), understand and agree with.

I do have a flash plugin installed... isn't that obvious if I was able to access the website?  Yes, there ARE people without flash plugins.  People who have old systems, people who just bought their computers, people with OUTDATED flash plugins, and so on.  And like I clearly said before, a flash plugin isn't precisely the only reason for which an animation may not load.

Flash is meant to be used in websites with dynamic content, meant for greater interaction than just "point and click".  Game presentations, for example.  It's okay to have some portions of your website in flash, but not all of it unless it's quite necessary.  If you really, really want a flash website, then try making some more use of it.  I don't know.  More than animating transitions between one page and the other...  It's your website, just think of what you'd want to do.

And this is the last time I post here, because all of this is just supposed to help you out.  If you don't want the help, then that's fine.  But try not to close your mind to improvement.

See you.
« Last Edit: August 07, 2007, 12:19:13 AM by Arwym »

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I'm here until he apologizes or admits to be incorrect. His slander has pissed me off now. Not uncalm, as you call it, but irked, and ready to fight back at you.
« Last Edit: August 07, 2007, 12:19:36 AM by Arrow-1 »

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alright the affiliate thing was beacuse we have some things in common like we use rpg maker u have resources and even a fourm for all the stuff so if they went to our site and wanted to get the program to make there own game if u havent noticed it hasnt even come close to "o there affiliated with rmrk lets go here" or w/e. and arwym i know its suppost to help us out but still most of it is just like u said make our site better but it is still our choice to take the advice so im not the one who edits it but really i have dial up and it still runs fine my comps is a piece of shit and it still works so u would seriously have to have a REALLY old comp not to be able to veiw the site.
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Um, you need to read my posts more carefully. I figured the affiliates thing out awhile back. Though, Im NOT HOME TO CHANGE IT. I'm on vacation. And the site descripition paragraph that you make when you register takes care of the googlebots. Unless you have dialup, the wait is long, and I've seen many html sites that load slower than me. You can even play a game while you wait for gods sake. If you can't copy text, well boo-hoo. And Roph, I never said I wanted to be all professional. I would get a dot com. And I did respond to your corporation comment with, what else will we call ourselves. DragonSoft band of 5 people who make stuff. A name doesnt matter as long as the site has good stuff in my opinion. I won't attract people I want? Uh read the list of RMRKers who like the site.

THE NAME DOESNT MATTER!! I GET YOUR OPINION, I CAN CLEARLY SEE!! EXIRENCED MASTER ARTISTS, HTML GURUS, ARENT GOING TO VISIT MY LITTLE SITE AND HOLD HIGH OPINIONS LIKE YOURS, IF THEY DO THEY HAVE ISSUES.

TAKE A DEEP BREATH AND CLEAR IT OUT OF YOUR SYSTEM, YOUR POINTS ARE MADE AND YOU SEEM TO BE STICKING TO THEM, OKAY ALREADY.

THANK YOU, "IM SORRY FOR MY SLANDER" go!
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alright the affiliate thing was beacuse we have some things in common like we use rpg maker u have resources and even a fourm for all the stuff so if they went to our site and wanted to get the program to make there own game if u havent noticed it hasnt even come close to "o there affiliated with rmrk lets go here" or w/e. and arwym i know its suppost to help us out but still most of it is just like u said make our site better but it is still our choice to take the advice so im not the one who edits it but really i have dial up and it still runs fine my comps is a piece of shit and it still works so u would seriously have to have a REALLY old comp not to be able to veiw the site.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full_stop
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grammar
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sentence_(linguistics)

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dude its the internet deal with it
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Alright. The affiliate thing was because we have some things in common.  For example, we involve RPG Maker, we have resources for the program, and even a forum for it. So, if they went to our site and wanted to get the program to make their own game, they could do so. If you haven't noticed, it hasn't even come close to "oh, they're affiliated with RMRK, let's go here." Therefore, I do not see the point in that being said.

Arwym, I know it's supposed to help us out, and that most of what you said is meant to make our site better, but it is still our choice to take the advice. However, I'm not the one who edits it, and it loads fine for me on my dial-up connection. My computer is terrible and yet it is still able to load the site, so one would have to have a REALLY bad computer to not be able to view it.

Seriously dude, learn to type =/ Your abysmal typing isn't doing very well for your "professional corporation" anyway.

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alright the affiliate thing was beacuse we have some things in common like we use rpg maker u have resources and even a fourm for all the stuff so if they went to our site and wanted to get the program to make there own game if u havent noticed it hasnt even come close to "o there affiliated with rmrk lets go here" or w/e. and arwym i know its suppost to help us out but still most of it is just like u said make our site better but it is still our choice to take the advice so im not the one who edits it but really i have dial up and it still runs fine my comps is a piece of shit and it still works so u would seriously have to have a REALLY old comp not to be able to veiw the site.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full_stop
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grammar
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sentence_(linguistics)

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Okay you really are an ass, Roph. Do you see us making fun of you?!We're trying to defend ourselves, just like you guys.

PS: Don't give me that , I was only simply suggesting, bullshit.
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Okay you really are an ass, Roph. Do you see us making fun of you?!

Huh? I wasn't trying to make fun of him. I expect he wants his post to be read, so what's wrong with making it easy to read?

It's like I'd ask somebody to speak clearer in real life if they were speaking in one long slurred sentence that was hard to make out and understand. Being bad at communicating is your fault and yours only. We have people here who can speak like, what, four seperate languages fluently? And he can't comprehend just his one (native) one?

Not saying of course everything has to be gramatically perfect and with pristine spelling or punctuation, you should see how I type in the IRC channel - that'd just be zealous, but how can you not say it's easy to read that wall of badly written text?
« Last Edit: August 07, 2007, 01:22:51 AM by Roph »

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Well, everybody was saying "speak human" and thats a little on the offensive side. For some reason yukimora doesn't like periods I guess. Sorry for calling you an ass, I was just really ticked off at the time.
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Actually, the name does matter. It's a legal issue. You aren't legally a corporation so you cannot legally call yourself a corporation. It's not an opinion, it's the law. You can get pissy over it or the fact that flash isn't convenient as an html site but it doesn't change the facts. By advertising your site on these forums you open yourself to the opinions of others on your site. It's not just like LOL FREE TRAFFIC. If you can't deal with other people's opinions then don't post.

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