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Title: Copyright Inquiry (Trademark name use in describing my game)
Post by: GALER on September 03, 2015, 06:02:06 PM
Hey you great folks,

Just had a legal question, and yes it is a copyright one:

"How would I be able to use in my video game marketing slogan the words: FINAL FANTASY, without being held liable for copyright/trademark infringement?"

My example would be below:

"GALER combines the old school look and feel of an original FINAL FANTASY, with a new age survival horror atmosphere."

Is this even possible? Can I put: FINAL FANTASY (TM), or something??

I tried googling this and my head started to hurt... :)

Cheers!
-Graham
Title: Re: Copyright Inquiry (Trademark name use in describing my game)
Post by: Roph on September 03, 2015, 06:36:23 PM
At the risk of sounding a bit rude, nobody will really care enough to kick up any stink. Just go ahead. You can reference FF.
Title: Re: Copyright Inquiry (Trademark name use in describing my game)
Post by: Karo Rushe on September 03, 2015, 08:27:48 PM
Unless you're making money out of it and become successfully filthy rich, they won't really care.
Title: Re: Copyright Inquiry (Trademark name use in describing my game)
Post by: Gracie on September 03, 2015, 08:38:17 PM
If you are comparing it to another game, thats done all the time, even by big companies.

"X game is like Y game, but with Z!!"
Title: Re: Copyright Inquiry (Trademark name use in describing my game)
Post by: Irock on September 03, 2015, 08:53:33 PM
Competing products are directly referenced in advertising all the time, especially computers and colas
Title: Re: Copyright Inquiry (Trademark name use in describing my game)
Post by: haloOfTheSun on September 03, 2015, 10:48:01 PM
It is perfectly legal to reference trademarked brands, titles, etc. in anything so long as you use common sense. If you make it unclear as to the origin or ownership of something, there could be cause for the actual trademark owner to take action (i.e. don't make it sound like you own or have anything to do with Final Fantasy, even vaguely). Anything tarnishing or slanderous would also be reason for them to take action against you, which is why often in advertising businesses refrain from mentioning competitors' products specifically and only generally, but there are ways to work around that.

In theory one could also take action if someone is using a brand name in some sort of commercial product as a generic use for a term ("xeroxing" as photocopying, "Band-Aid" for bandage, etc.), which is called trademark dilution. That obviously doesn't apply here.

And then there's the pure fact that, as Roph mentioned, Square Enix will never notice nor care, even if it weren't strictly legal (which it is). For what it's worth, and I'm not sure on this, you aren't supposed to put (TM) after Final Fantasy because you aren't the trademark owner and you didn't acquire the right to its use. Plus you aren't using the Final Fantasy logo. Plus putting (TM) is about as valid as using (c) for copyright; as in not at all.
Title: Re: Copyright Inquiry (Trademark name use in describing my game)
Post by: GALER on September 04, 2015, 03:41:02 PM
Wow guys, thanks for the oodles of support!!

(and yeah, they're not gonna care :)  )