I have read an interesting article about heterosexual men who are attracted to transsexual women. There are many heterosexual men who buy transsexual porn. It is known that the typical homosexual do not find transsexual women attracted because of their feminine features. Do you think these men are actually homosexual, bisexual, or heterosexual? Maybe just curious?
http://www.examiner.com/x-18935-Phoenix-Transsexual-Relationships-Examiner~y2009m8d27-Mans-Secret-Love-of-Transsexual-Women-Do-new-trends-predict-a-second-Sexual-Revolution

http://www.examiner.com/x-18935-Phoenix-Transsexual-Relationships-Examiner~y2009m8d30-PART-2--Mans-secret-love-of-transsexual-women-Do-new-trends-predict-a-second-rexual-revolution


Discuss!

Hmph. It sounds like a fetish to me.

While reading the articles you posted, I couldn't help but draw parralells to people who also seek out things like BDSM, latex, feet, or any other uncommon sexual practice. I would argue that no second sexual revolution is coming, at least not in the context of the sexRev of the late 60's and early 70's. If anything, this may hinder the acceptance of Transgender people into mainstream society, since they may now be looked at as subsidising "unwholesome" or "dirty" sex for men by the more conservative elements of our society, a viewpoint I personally find appalling and unacceptable.

Coming from the standpoint of a  mostly straight male, I find nothing particularly exciting about sexual contact with a transgender woman. I suppose that should the occasion arise, (I would like to think) I would see the person as female. I would certainly be interested in that person's experience in transitioning.

It should not be overlooked that men seeking porno are generally looking for entertainment, to satisfy sexual fantasy. Similarly, IMO, men seeking transgender porn may be trying to satisfy their own desire for femininity. Either that, or attemping to identify their homosexual urges with a preson who is visually female, assuming they have issues with said homosexual urges. My opinion.

...a straight guy asked me out the other day.

Also, happy National Coming Out Day.

No, if I were an "actual guy," and dressed and acted accordingly, he definitely would not have asked me out.
A gay man might have.
Whereas a bisexual man would be attracted either way, if not somewhat confused.

If someone looks like a woman, and acts like a woman, chances are, only people who like women are going to be attracted.
A gay man, whether or not he is aware that the woman has a penis under her skirt, will not be attracted... because he likes men.

Of course, there's also the possibility of a straight man making advances on a woman without even knowing that she's biologically male, in which case, they may be repulsed upon discovering that the woman is not technically a "she," but some open-minded men can learn to accept that.
Ever seen "The Crying Game?"


I think you just contradicted your first point.

I think it all depends on one's point of view. First off, all 3 of the transgender people I know (sorry, Dertt, 4) prefer to use the pronoun of the gender they identify with. This means, at least to me, that they ARE that gender. And secondly, if a straight man hits on a TG woman without knowing her transition status, it is because he sees her as a genuine girl- you know, feminine and pretty and shit. Point being, he's hoping that ultimately, there will be sex involved, and it will be with a woman who has a vagina.

If on the other hand, the man KNOWINGLY hits on a TG woman simply because she is TG, that indicates a need for something different to excite him, and that psycological component is a fetish. It is not, however, homosexual unless the man is seeking contact with male genitals in which case the man's desire is a homosexual behavior.

In other words, if you are a man who likes only vag, you are straight. If you are a man who likes only penis, you are gay. If you are a man who likes women who were once men, you have a fetish.


And for what it's worth, I think you look like a genuine girl when you dress that way.

As far as strict reality goes I am a straight man with a penis fetish. I am not attracted to the male body except the male genitals. A gay man would, as some have said here, look for a relationship with a guy because they think men are attractive in general. For me, feminine features are pretty much what I like, except of course the genitalia. As I stated before, I prefer the male genitalia, and the female sex is just "meh" to me. So I'm in a peculiar position regarding this but I wouldn't call myself gay, more like Transgender Admirer.

What if the person considers themself the other gender?

I don't think it's really necessary (or logical) to strictly categorise sexualities. From what this guy describes, he is hardly gay. He's not even bi really, given that he has no or little attraction to actual men except for their penises.

So what is he? Who cares.

I'm with Chewey on this one.


How many [straight] men can say they aren't attracted to Robert Downey Jr., amirite? :3

Hahah, yes, you are totally correct.

That doesn't say much of anything, but okay.

Nature or nurture?

There are arguments that (homo)sexuality comes from our genetic makeup. Personally I don't think it's that simple. If you ask me there's a long and gradual chemical process taking place throughout our younger development, and continuing into our adulthood, which has an effect on the kinds of things we are attracted to. I think this chemical stuff going on might be vaguely affected by our genetics, but on the whole it's a bigger process than that. I think it also has to do with our experiences growing up and such.

I do think there is a connection between (homo)sexuality and TG issues. They are seperate issues, to be sure, but there is a connection. A high percentage of gay men choose to act in a quite feminine manner. You could perhaps attribute that to the influences from gay community at large... perhaps it stems from the gay community being in the minority and hence feeling the need to stick out, the need for a 'gay identifier' which lets other gay men know the score.

Complicated issues here.

In any case, I think that willys look better than vajayjays. But I love pussy.

You missed the point. It's not simple. This guy likes penis but not guys. How is he gay at all? How is that even bi? What the fuck sexuality isn't simple you retards !_!

The point was you don't need to (nor SHOULD you) categorise it (including categories such as straight, gay, bi). It's not like I was advocating more labels like pansexual or whatever.

Because he doesn't like dudes.

Explain why you're all so retarded !_!